That post feels like you are only reluctantly giving it up because people are not willing to go with you and you are fearmongering with it for future so I felt it's necessary to say it.

If there were two rubish cases against person I suspect mildly, it would most likely make me pause and reconsider my view.
I admit I am probably not impartial in this one as I am involved, though, so feel free to ignore me. (On this one not generally:-))

Right, enough reading, time to speak my mind where I've made it up.

gkaiser: Hmm. I can think of other things that that post #222 could mean if it turns out to be a softclaim. In any case, survivor-esque information merely as flavour suits the "asylum-seeker" theme.

flubbucket: I get the impression he's taking what he reads too literally (not for the first time), and has taken . (That said, given the last time I thought "Mafia or fool" he turned out to be the latter, I can't rule out the possibility that I am just a terrible judge of character.) In conclusion, Vitek and flubbucket are bad at communicating with each other for whatever reason - alignment undecided. :P

Vitek: Still not entirely convinced about the "town" statement explanation, and I'm not quite certain about trying to vote for the mod again given how it turned out the last time, but currently these points are not the most worrying things I've read.

DarkoD13: Never really got the hang of long walks on the beach - I walk too fast, and have a tendency to run out of beach around here. Perhaps this line of questioning would be better handled by my avatar. :P

SirPrimalForm: Most worrying to me so far. I'm not terribly sure about how Survivors work in practice, or indeed if gkaiser meant to softclaim or not, but any strategy which to me reads "let's make a bandwagon on a non-Mafia we can't blame anyone for getting on" seems extremely suspect. Extremely.

Vote SirPrimalForm

And now, back to work.

@flub; Joe; SPF; Please answer me one last question about my genuinely suspicious stuff/sentence. I looked at it again and I would use the same words again if I was to write it now becasue I don't know how I should have said it better.
Could you please take a look at the quote below and show me how I should have written this to make it less ambigious but still with the same meaning.
That is to say that all players except me, because I was the poster of that OP, were not going crazy about that post as Robbeasy said they will.
And no, please don't say I should have used "all players except me because I was the poster of that OP" because I would never use it. :-p

"are" is supposed to be "say" and "nit" should be "it".

For the moment, I have to vote gkaiser.
I believe his post in 222 was blown out of proportion and didn't really mean anything, but I do find his general behavior troubling. Vague or funny posts and voting for people that have already been voted by a few players first. That would have been my tactic if I was scum.
I'm not sure I get the case against Vitek, it could be just a misunderstanding between honest players, it could be something more. I'll have to re-read the whole conversation, but right now it kind of looks like the discussion is a bit lost in technicalities.

Well, I am voicing my own fears certainly. Neutrals vote in an anti-town manner so they are something to fear. We did just get a really weird "maybe claim" that sounds an awful lot like he doesn't care what else happens to anyone else. As I said originally I was mostly just surprised that no one else seemed shocked.

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It all depends on the reasons I suspect that person. In this instance I didn't suspect you based on either of their cases so I'm not sure why it changes anything. I re-evaluated, but nothing had changed. I don't understand if you're suggesting that I should consider you more town based on some of the cases against you being bad or what.

EBWOP: Although I maintain my suspicions of you Vitek, the "town" thing was only ever a "raise eyebrow, make note, move on" thing for me.
I would have voted for you if I was as suspicious of you as you seem to think I am. I am more suspicious of you than some, but less than say Rob, Flub or gkaiser. The 'bad cases' have neither raised nor lowered my suspicion in the long run.

You said he denied saying zombie. He didn't deny that, he denied the the "doctor is still around" theory was his. He mentioned zombies because he was saying (interpolated) 'If the doctor is still around then he'd have to be a zombie, which would be ridiculous and therefore I don't think the doctor is still around'. Please quote him to me if I'm missing something.


Huh, I can see what you mean about it referring to those that are gathered here rather than the uninformed majority. I think it would have been less ambiguous if you'd said "the town".

Post 113 - as soon as a little heat arrived on you, for pursuing the softclaim in the first place, you try mightily to turn it into a 'it was a joke' post...
And please could you point out the exact place where i say you and Vitek are working as a scum team??

I'll re-iterate again for you - i voted for Vitek because he made a post where it appears he softclaimed. simple as that.

In my reasoning for it I pointed out you had brought it up first, then you completely backtrack in post 113 and say your questioning of Viteks post was a joke.

These are separate things. I was just pointing out that what you had done seems a little odd.

I'm currently pretty sick IRL, so my postings may be a little short..hopefully feel better soon, but at moment not straying far from a bathroom and i'm being sick everywhere...

I turn nothing, it didn't even occur to me that my "accusation" would be taken as anything other than an RVS joke until people actually started taking it seriously. Sure, I point out that it was a joke but in no way did I backtrack. In my mind it was only ever a joke, as was Vitek's make up comment. Maybe there is something to Vitek's comment but my post was meant as a joke.
I was pretty surprised when you started using a joke post of mine as a genuine suggestion.

Where do you accuse me of being scum? Well it's the point where you accuse me of backtracking, it certainly gives the impression that you're accusing me of something. But on re-reading it appears the main place I got the scum team idea from was actually Vitek.

My read on you has shifted somewhat, your case seems more reasonable (or less unreasonable) than I had previously thought... the lack of posts didn't help either. :P

Hope you get better soon. I'm in the middle of a cold at the moment, I'm thankful that it's not what you've got.

I don't find the alleged soft claim to be an issue.
I can support a misunderstanding only with the caveat I was simply asking questions.

I think you've stated my point clearly.

To oversimplify my issue, I read Vitek post saying "zombie" and I asked and he stated " I never said that." (Not to be taken as actual quotes).

I also agree "the town" would have been better. But I also now see you as making his statement seem harmless, so should I raise my eyebrow at you and then move on like a stupid sheep???

Hurrah all the peeplez is town!!

Sorry Robbeasy, hope you're better soon!! And whatever you do don't sneeze................trust me on this one!

You should most certainly not lapse back into random votes and jokes, or transition into quiet lurking. It would be best, I think, if you actually began to participate in the conversation going on around you. You needn't be humourless in your discussion with other players, but it would be beneficial if you at least attempted to discuss your suspicions and thoughts with everyone else.

Therefore, I will ask you again: Who, at this moment in time, is the player that you most suspect of being a mafioso, and give us a reason for your suspicions?

I only say all of this, as I am utterly baffled by your comments in post 222. It seems to me that, in that post in particular, you are role-playing. While this can potentially be fun, it can also lead to a person acting in a very suspect manner( as you have been). Post 222 does seem like a bit of a role-claim as well, but I read it as more of poorly put together town claim, than a survivor/ power role claim.

One to other things:

1) The current Vitek situation: I'm still not totally convinced that there's anything here. I feel that you're all( in particular Robbeasy, flubbucket, and Vitek) talking past one another. By which I mean to say that, I think the main problem here is miscommunication.

That being said, I am yet to do a proper thread re-read, and my opinion my change once I have completed said action.

2) Amok: Quoted from your first post( number 5), "I have high hopes for this trip, and I will not let my family down! Life is good." What do you mean when you say that you won't let your family down?

3)Robbeasy: This is off-topic, but I do hope that you get better soon.

So far I'm quite interested in SirPrimalform. He is at the heart of most of our current discussions, which is not a bad thing per se. It can be seen however as someone trying to target one person, and when that fails, move to target another. Question is though if he knows what the others are or if he doesn't.

Let's see how it evolves though.

I have a wife and children back home, and not to forget my poor old mother. I am going to Europe, because I can get a good job there and make many monies so my family do not need to live in poverty. They trust me to take care of them. They will have a rough patch now that I am away, but I will not let them down! In a few months I will have a good job and I can pay for them to come over also.

Can we have a votecount please mr MOD?? With all the resets, I've lost track of who is voting for what...

The winds rise a bit, inducing a slight roll to the boat, which is sufficient to make a couple of passengers seasick. The absence of the doctor got all the more commented, giving birth to some wild theories, and augmenting anxiety. Something is definitely going wrong, and the increasing waves of accusations reflect this.

SirPrimalform : 1 vote, by QuadrAlien
CSPVG : 0 vote
QuadrAlien : 0 vote
Vitek : 0 vote
amok : 0 vote
JMich : 0 vote
Robbeasy : 0 vote
JoeSapphire : 0 vote
gkaiser : 1 vote, by DarkoD13
DarkoD13 : 0 vote
flubbucket : 3 votes, by Vitek, amok, and SirPrimalform

Not voting since the last reset : CSPVG, JMich, Robbeasy, JoeSapphire, gkaiser, and flubbucket.

With 11 players aboard, 6 votes are needed for a lynch.

Guh, no new posts? How am I to distract myself while on the bus to work?