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SirPrimalform: Since the start of day 2. Anyone remember me saying something strange happened to me this morning?
So you retained your original role now?
I still hope it was only hidden part of your role (your character name would suggest it) and not something that can happen again to someone else.

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SirPrimalform: The problem about claiming town jester is that it sounds very much like the falseclaim of a neutral game ending jester. There is no advantage to the town in general in lynching a jester. It satisfies my win condition, but it makes no difference to you guys. Not only that, but I do count towards the town numbers (in terms of outnumbering the mafia). "I don't die the first time I'm lynched" could still have been a lie even if you believed I was a town aligned jester, thus lynching me would still be a bad idea. I really can't think of a time when claiming jester is a good idea for a jester.
Meh, I am looking at it only from town perspective where it could save us lot of time. :-)

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Krypsyn: I like grease a lot. It is slippery and it makes things squeak less. I don't like squeaking things, because they tend to distract me while I am trying to think. Thinking is hard enough these days...

Well, okay, as for the claims by GhostQlyph and CSPVG, I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive by any means. I put myself in the position of a moderator that has a naive cop ask to target an untargettable player. I think I might have just returned 'GhostQlyph is Town' to CSPVG as well. It just seems to be more in line with the way a naive cop is supposed to be broken and not deliver and real information.
Eh, I don't like this and I don't want to believe it at all.
No, I really think they are exclusive.

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TwilightBard: @Vitek: What I mean is the post you made when you first came in here, about Z's lynch in Day 1. It just really struck me as odd. But it's the only thing I've really got, and I've got odd from a lot of people in this game.
Bah, that's boring and bit too unspecific for you.
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Vitek: So you retained your original role now?
I still hope it was only hidden part of your role (your character name would suggest it) and not something that can happen again to someone else.

Meh, I am looking at it only from town perspective where it could save us lot of time. :-)
I don't think I've returned to my original role, but rather I'm just a satisfied jester now. I think it might actually happen again to me tomorrow. I suspect that my true role has multiple personality disorder because I wasn't Andy Kaufman yesterday, but there is a link between yesterday's character and today's 'character'.
p.s. It would indeed have saved time, but there's a chance that the time might have been saved by deciding not to lynch me.
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SirPrimalform: I don't think I've returned to my original role, but rather I'm just a satisfied jester now. I think it might actually happen again to me tomorrow. I suspect that my true role has multiple personality disorder because I wasn't Andy Kaufman yesterday, but there is a link between yesterday's character and today's 'character'.
You keep disappointing me.

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SirPrimalform: p.s. It would indeed have saved time, but there's a chance that the time might have been saved by deciding not to lynch me.
That's fine with me. ;-)
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TwilightBard: Ok. I've reread Day 1 far more then I'd like to admit even under normal circumstances. I still feel like I'm missing something. I saw a lot of Ghost saying that amok had attempted to use her 'Post Restriction' as a reason for voting her and pushing her forward...EXCEPT, the only time I noticed amok even hint at voting for Ghost, it was due to the lynch the mod view people were having, while CSPVG not only voted for Ghost for that very reason, but made another vote about keeping his vote there. Did I miss other posts? I kinda feel like I have, but I'm not really sure.

@Vitek: What I mean is the post you made when you first came in here, about Z's lynch in Day 1. It just really struck me as odd. But it's the only thing I've really got, and I've got odd from a lot of people in this game.
You misinterpreted. Hugely.

He didn't vote me because of my false post restriction, he tried to manipulate my false post restriction to his own ends. Very different.
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TwilightBard: Ok. I've reread Day 1 far more then I'd like to admit even under normal circumstances. I still feel like I'm missing something. I saw a lot of Ghost saying that amok had attempted to use her 'Post Restriction' as a reason for voting her and pushing her forward...EXCEPT, the only time I noticed amok even hint at voting for Ghost, it was due to the lynch the mod view people were having, while CSPVG not only voted for Ghost for that very reason, but made another vote about keeping his vote there. Did I miss other posts? I kinda feel like I have, but I'm not really sure.

@Vitek: What I mean is the post you made when you first came in here, about Z's lynch in Day 1. It just really struck me as odd. But it's the only thing I've really got, and I've got odd from a lot of people in this game.
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GhostQlyph: You misinterpreted. Hugely.

He didn't vote me because of my false post restriction, he tried to manipulate my false post restriction to his own ends. Very different.
which I did know about at the time. I already addressed your issue in post 357 and 361, but please - my voices tell me that you should just relentlessly continue on this track. So does the voices say, as it may say more about your behavior than mine. The voices say many strange things, but mostly they say things about sharp needles and not trusting anyone of you. Especially not trusting anyone of ..... in conjunction of saying things about sharp needles... and drugs... sweet sweet drugs.

By the way, do people generally divulge their roles when playing? If I divulge mine, then the problem is that I may by proxy out another townie.... so it is not just my decision (the other person may not know about my role...)
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Vitek: You keep disappointing me.
I have to play the hand I'm dealt...
Hmmmmmm... it seems very unlikely for both Ghost and CS3PO to be town. I'm not sure I can see motivation for CS3PO's claim if he's scum (unless they're both scum), so I'm leaning towards Ghost being scum. The "untargetable - wait no it must all be in my head" thing is either scummy or bastard moddy...

CSPVG: What sort of flavour did you get upon investigating Ghost? Can you paraphrase it for us?
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SirPrimalform: CSPVG: What sort of flavour did you get upon investigating Ghost? Can you paraphrase it for us?
It says that I take a look around GhostQlyph's room, but that nothing is to be found. It was a waste of time. Then the PM goes on to inform me that Ghost is town.

I'm really starting to wonder if, like others have suggested, this may not just be the nature of a naive cop. That, no matter what, I'll always get an X is town result.

I know that my flip-flop on this matter doesn't do wonders for my credibility, but I feel that the only way to clear up anything would e to get a definitive reply from the moderator about one of our roles/alignments. Therefore, based on previous suspicion and an impending deadline, I feel like a need to Vote: GhostQlyph.
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CSPVG: It says that I take a look around GhostQlyph's room, but that nothing is to be found. It was a waste of time. Then the PM goes on to inform me that Ghost is town.

I'm really starting to wonder if, like others have suggested, this may not just be the nature of a naive cop. That, no matter what, I'll always get an X is town result.

I know that my flip-flop on this matter doesn't do wonders for my credibility, but I feel that the only way to clear up anything would e to get a definitive reply from the moderator about one of our roles/alignments. Therefore, based on previous suspicion and an impending deadline, I feel like a need to Vote: GhostQlyph.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. It does rather sound like you weren't able to target her and got town anyway. If neither of you are lying, then it confirms your naivete to you and Ghost's untargetability to her. Doesn't make things easier for me though...
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, that's what I was wondering. It does rather sound like you weren't able to target her and got town anyway. If neither of you are lying, then it confirms your naivete to you and Ghost's untargetability to her. Doesn't make things easier for me though...
I am really not willing to accept that cop gets result.
The game would be messed if it would be true and I don't want to believe it is.
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Vitek: I am really not willing to accept that cop gets result.
The game would be messed if it would be true and I don't want to believe it is.
So you think one is lying?

Urghh... I'm going to have to vote GhostQlyph. Seems more plausibly like a scum claim. CS3PO had no reason that I can see to claim when he did other than outing Ghost.
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SirPrimalform: So you think one is lying?

Urghh... I'm going to have to vote GhostQlyph. Seems more plausibly like a scum claim. CS3PO had no reason that I can see to claim when he did other than outing Ghost.
Yes, I do, that's why I am still voting Glyph.

It makes no sense that CSPVG would get result on untargetable and I believe him more than Glyph.

I think it can be compared to block. If he was blocked, there is little doubt he would get no result.
Both untargetable and block don't allow you to reach your target, so I think it should have the same outcome.
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Vitek: Yes, I do, that's why I am still voting Glyph.

It makes no sense that CSPVG would get result on untargetable and I believe him more than Glyph.

I think it can be compared to block. If he was blocked, there is little doubt he would get no result.
Both untargetable and block don't allow you to reach your target, so I think it should have the same outcome.
As I said before, it kind of depends on how his naivete works flavourwise. Did you read what he said about the flavour he got? Ghost wasn't in her cell but he still got a town read. That tells me that he could probably investigate a lampshade and conclude that it's town.
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SirPrimalform: As I said before, it kind of depends on how his naivete works flavourwise. Did you read what he said about the flavour he got? Ghost wasn't in her cell but he still got a town read. That tells me that he could probably investigate a lampshade and conclude that it's town.
I did but I don't care much how it is decribed in flavour. He isn't flavour cop, so it doesn't matter how it is decribed. Game mechanics are much more important.
Flavour should be just flavour, it shouldn't reveal real informations.