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dr.zli: ...
I wasn't talking about iDevices and Android based ones.
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Strijkbout: PC gaming will die when all connected computers and machinery become self aware and then we can play System Shock for real ! Great I can't wait ! :D
GOG's master plan revealed!

A real world System Shock!

CELEBRATE!
Wow, what a response! Thanks, guys, feeling better now :) If system shock becomes reality, I will simply activate the GOG implant and play original system shock while waiting for sudden death :)
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Strijkbout: PC gaming will die when all connected computers and machinery become self aware and then we can play Terminator for real ! Great I can't wait ! :D
Fixed that for you.
Honestly I really don't think PCs are ever going to die.

Sure, in 10 years we may all be using portable lightweight high-powered devices with excellent control schemes and sizable screens, but that would really just be a portable PC.
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StingingVelvet: That said as long as PCs exist, which is forever, someone will likely make games for them and running the classics will still be possible. Also, as we have seen, a lot of projects can work on many devices.
To be more correct, as long as AMD and NVidia still consider that it's profitable enough to make discrete video cards.

The day they consider that making SoC is better and video card are not worth the trouble (Which sadly I suspect is not in a too distant future) is the day PC gaming, classic or not will die in favor of full streaming.
The digital download revolution has revived PC gaming. I used to play mostly on consoles, but after joining GOG, Steam, Gamersgate, i only buy PC games now. Its much cheaper than console games.
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dr.zli: ...
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Elenarie: I wasn't talking about iDevices and Android based ones.
600$ Microsoft surface then? Or 500$ without keyboard XD?
@gb or ram and 1,4ghz processor, I don't think people would be satisfied with linux+VM+virtual xp on it. Better to buy proper laptop for that amount of money.

Asus transformer? tegra @2ghz and 1gb ram.

In 2-3 years tablets may be viable option for a thing you suggested unless they dissapear completely like netbooks ;)
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doady: I disagree that DRM is part of the reason for this rennaissance. I think crazy DRM was part of the reason for PC gaming's decline in the first place... Think of the popularity of the DRM-free Humble Indie Bundles... digital distribution is the key, not DRM. DRM doesn't reduce piracy anyways, according to GOG and CD Projekt RED.
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SimonG: It's not DRM on games, but the concept of "one account, one person, one license" even GOG is using that. DRM was never meant in defeating piracy (Steam is probably easier to crack than a CD check from '96). You can call it whatever you want, but I call it "Digital Rights Management".
So basically GOG is using false advertising when it claims to be "DRM-free" (and that is what is reviving PC gaming?).

Making an account on GOG is akin to making an account on Amazon. You buy something online, you have to make an account, or multiple accounts (credit card?). You wanna get paid in the first place you have to have a bank account. Accounts are not DRM.
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spitfire_ch: Yesterday, Blizzard claimed that main stream single player games will become scarce in future, because multiplayer games and free to play games just bring more cash and bind the customer for a longer time. I solace myself by the fact, that there probably are enough singleplayer games already produced to entertain me for a life time. And thanks to GOG it's easy to get them. However, if there was no hardware any more to play them we'd be screwed.
Multiplayer and free-2-play games don't need hardware, graphics cards etc. in order to play them? Neato. :)

If your concern was mostly that modular built-it-yourself PC kits will become more scarce in the future... maybe so, I dunno, I probably won't care. I'm gaming now 99% on laptops anyway, including newer games like Crysis 2 etc.

I don't necessarily care what hardware components my future gaming computer has, as long as it offers me some means to retain backwards compatibility with games, hopefully with virtual machines and such. After all, nowadays I can play 3Dfx accelerated games without owning an actual 3Dfx graphics card, or listen to Roland music in DOS games without a real DOS machine with a real Roland MT-32/CM-32L unit.
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doady: So basically GOG is using false advertising when it claims to be "DRM-free" (and that is what is reviving PC gaming?). Making an account on GOG is akin to making an account on Amazon. You buy something online, you have to make an account, or multiple accounts (credit card?). You wanna get paid in the first place you have to have a bank account. Accounts are not DRM.
AS I said, the games are DRM free (How you define CD-keys is up to you). And as I said, call that account what you want, but it manages your licenses and it is bound to one person.

You cannot sell or trade GOG games (like retail or GMG). And stuff like this what makes singleplayer gaming a viable market again.

How you want to call all that is your thing.
I started gaming around 13 years ago. And then they were saying PC gaming is dead. I laughed then, I laugh now.

also, DosBox runs fine on Android devices, so at least some GOG games could still be sold on them, in the unlikely even of PC gamign going to shit.
Post edited October 17, 2012 by keeveek
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Gersen: The day they consider that making SoC is better and video card are not worth the trouble (Which sadly I suspect is not in a too distant future) is the day PC gaming, classic or not will die in favor of full streaming.
That's exactly what I am afraid of. I few PC enthusiast might not be enough to keep the video cards business profitable. Without video cards, PC/Notebook gaming will be dead - as well as any backward compatibility to 3D accelerated games. Unless you can emulate a full fledged PC in the cloud, of course ;)
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timppu: I don't necessarily care what hardware components my future gaming computer has, as long as it offers me some means to retain backwards compatibility with games, hopefully with virtual machines and such.
I also use the PC as movie central to be able to play any kind of format the world throws at me. No standalone multimedia player can do that. I have connected a projector, screen, 5.1 headset and 5.1 boxes to it. Notebooks generally don't provide the kind of connectivity I need for that, so I do care.
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timppu: After all, nowadays I can play 3Dfx accelerated games without owning an actual 3Dfx graphics card, or listen to Roland music in DOS games without a real DOS machine with a real Roland MT-32/CM-32L unit.
I always wanted to try that but never did, so far. Which glide wrapper are you using? Could you figure out a way to play Syndicate Wars using 3Dfx acceleration?
Post edited October 17, 2012 by spitfire_ch
Something I heard about computers? A computer has three things.

If I've got this right, they are:

1. A motherboard
2. A keyboard
3. .......
.......
......Monitor?

To me, if it ain't a desktop or laptop PC, it ain't a computer.

Sure, those tablets, phones and such can try to be a PC, but will always be lacking a true physical keyboard.
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StingingVelvet: That said as long as PCs exist, which is forever, someone will likely make games for them and running the classics will still be possible. Also, as we have seen, a lot of projects can work on many devices.
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Gersen: To be more correct, as long as AMD and NVidia still consider that it's profitable enough to make discrete video cards. The day they consider that making SoC is better and video card are not worth the trouble (Which sadly I suspect is not in a too distant future) is the day PC gaming, classic or not will die in favor of full streaming.
Streaming is a hell of a long way away. Have you read about OnLive's user numbers? Been outside Western Europe cities? It's not going to be a concern for a long time and even if they did stop making GPUs someone else would step in and take over as long as there is a market.

And even in the doomsday scenario old cards would still exist and run games made for them.

Trust me by the time PC gaming dies the last thing I will care about is owning even more video games I don't have time to play.