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Robbeasy: Red - you seem to be very doubtful of Twilight, yet you jumped on the NFY bandwagon?? I'm not understanding your logic there...
Well it basically came down to the fact that the whole Twilightbard thing went a bit low during the holiday, so when the game started again, I wanted to make it move a bit forward and seeing as I already had a good deal to judge Twilightbard from I deemed that I could properly tag along with nmillar's vote for NFY since she was my second target, and I could use some more posts by her to judge from.

So yea, basically a hope for a reaction vote, though its not a very firm vote and even though Twilightard latest posts (mostly the one about Jef night-actions, which I hadn't noticed enough), have made be less sure that he is a definite scum.

That impression I so far haven't gotten from NFY, hence why my vote is still on her, even if both have posted now and the game is moving along again.
As ive just only now seen we need another replacement, Anyone wishing to take over PM me

I'll votecount, prod and do all the other moddy stuff monday/tuesday when I have some time to myself
Post edited January 07, 2012 by ViolatorX
Alrighty.

unvote
vote Robbeasy
I'll wait until after the votecount, but I'm planning on voting Rob for many of the reasons outlined above by others.
All right, guys, I think it's official that I simply am not able to keep up with the game at this point. I hate to do this, but it's probably best if I request a replacement.
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jefequeso: All right, guys, I think it's official that I simply am not able to keep up with the game at this point. I hate to do this, but it's probably best if I request a replacement.
thats a damn shame, not only does replacements make it hard to judge people, by changing their act. Foolish actions might also be an outcome, as they might overlook something others wrote when its this late in and It does also make it tough for poor X has to find yet another one willing to take part and with time on their hand. But I guess if your completely out of time, then can be done about it. Could you otherwise stick around? Asking mostly because it would be nice if we only had to get one new person in to the game to judge. Not only that, but games can also go downhill fast if many players are exchanged, but no matter what I hope you get the time to take part still otherwise best wishes and luck with whatever is consuming your time.
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NotFrenchYet: I'm noticing more and more odd things about these two. Robb's above post asked to hear Baz's thoughts on Bard: "in other words, convince me..." (#1003). Baz posts his case, and Bard responds. Then there's the brief WOT exchange with Baron. Then, with plenty of text but no actual comment on Bard's rebuttal, Robbeasy again calls for someone to convince him (#1030). Is it possible that Robb is carefully avoiding analysing his scum-buddy too closely...?
I feel obligated to ask, especially with this going on. What are YOUR thoughts to everything I've been saying since we started up again? You've had your vote on me since before the break, and you've been oddly quiet when presented with me defending myself. You've only taken very small bits out and I know you've been reading posts. I'm pretty curious as to where you stand with what I've said.

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NotFrenchYet: Also: @Bard, isn't speculating about the reasons for lack of nightkill just "muddying the water", to reanimate a phrase you used back in post #649? I've seen this happen during a hilariously complex power-mad RL game I ran (in this case no one died in the night), and after mulling over the various possibilities, the voting continued with no further reference to the night actions. However, thinking about it now, the RL game was an open set-up, so it wasn't exactly hard to figure out what could have happened... No, I still don't think it did the players any good. They came up with vaious scenarios, but none of that discussion had any impact on the scumhunting. It just wasted five minutes.
Not really. I look at it this way, I've been able to at least remove most of my suspicions off of one person. Not 100%, but I don't see a reason to do more then keep my eye on posts the same as anyone else. (Granted, he then decided to go and request a replacement). We have a night with some concrete information that we can base some opinions on, I don't think it's muddying the water as it gives us a chance to clarify some things.

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Red_Baron: Thats pretty much the whole point of a mafia game? We only have true confirmation from the dead. So yea, of course you have no actual confirmation. You have the info that I shared because it needed to be shared, whether you believe it or not is entirely up to you and only you. I'll just recommend that if your town, that you truly consider the impact if its true and take actions accordingly.

[Snip my stuff]

Its still an option none the less, and I believe you yourself just mentioned that an possible role for me could be SK, and the whole discussion about multiple mafia has appeared often in this game. I say it should be a part of the possibilities without doubt.
Well, regarding the possibility of you being an SK...it doesn't rank highly on my list. An SK stands to gain more by staying quiet then by leaving any remote possibility of being discovered. The multiple mafia...is again possible, but we really don't have any concrete information regarding that so I'm hesitant to dig more into that.

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Red_Baron: Was he? I am just wondering what proof we have that he was roleblocked (maybe you could quote it?). We know that if Baz is truthful then he was roleblocked the night without kill. Let me just say that if we have a roleblock on night 1 of jef, then we also do have a lot of roleblocking going on.
Maybe it's me, but I associate things like a hit to the head as being roleblocked. Jefe mentioned in 848 that he got:

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jefequeso: I got knocked over the head in an alley and woke up to find Rico dead.
And Baz mentioned in the post above that that there was a head wound there. My thoughts are he was roleblocked, since being knocked out would have to have been a player's action. Granted, I saw Baz's post but didn't catch Jefe's, but like I said, something like that made me piece together role blocking.

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Red_Baron: Or it might relate to his character drinking/being drugged, as mentioned in the lynch flavor. (this one is just something I began to consider after reading it, and I don't really believe much in the idea, would seem to be a rather bastard move).
Honestly? I took the drinking as him being resigned to his fate, sort of like a last drink/whatever before being killed.

Speaking of Rod, I think I'm gonna dig through what he did. I have a theory now of how he was working and I want to see if I can dig up some evidence to prove my point or if I was just letting my imagination run away with me.
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jefequeso: All right, guys, I think it's official that I simply am not able to keep up with the game at this point. I hate to do this, but it's probably best if I request a replacement.
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Red_Baron: thats a damn shame, not only does replacements make it hard to judge people, by changing their act. Foolish actions might also be an outcome, as they might overlook something others wrote when its this late in and It does also make it tough for poor X has to find yet another one willing to take part and with time on their hand. But I guess if your completely out of time, then can be done about it. Could you otherwise stick around? Asking mostly because it would be nice if we only had to get one new person in to the game to judge. Not only that, but games can also go downhill fast if many players are exchanged, but no matter what I hope you get the time to take part still otherwise best wishes and luck with whatever is consuming your time.
If there's nobody waiting in line or easily available, I'll stay on. But I probably won't be posting anything of value until classes have started for me and I have some time to waste :P (ironic, no?). So if everyone is ok with that, then I'm ok with it.
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jefequeso: If there's nobody waiting in line or easily available, I'll stay on. But I probably won't be posting anything of value until classes have started for me and I have some time to waste :P (ironic, no?). So if everyone is ok with that, then I'm ok with it.
If you're in need of a few days to get settled before you have free time, take it, it's not a big deal as long as you let people know (the moderator so you aren't prodded and replaced, and us so we don't accuse you falsely of lurking). But that's just my opinion.
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jefequeso: If there's nobody waiting in line or easily available, I'll stay on. But I probably won't be posting anything of value until classes have started for me and I have some time to waste :P (ironic, no?). So if everyone is ok with that, then I'm ok with it.
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TwilightBard: If you're in need of a few days to get settled before you have free time, take it, it's not a big deal as long as you let people know (the moderator so you aren't prodded and replaced, and us so we don't accuse you falsely of lurking). But that's just my opinion.
All right.
I revoke my request for a replacement, then.
I tend to agree with TwilightBard in this matter NFY. Wouldn't mind seeing your thoughts on others as well, (By the way, I like how easy it is to short form your name).

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Red_Baron: - snip -
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TwilightBard: Maybe it's me, but I associate things like a hit to the head as being roleblocked. Jefe mentioned in 848 that he got:

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jefequeso: I got knocked over the head in an alley and woke up to find Rico dead.
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TwilightBard: And Baz mentioned in the post above that that there was a head wound there. My thoughts are he was roleblocked, since being knocked out would have to have been a player's action. Granted, I saw Baz's post but didn't catch Jefe's, but like I said, something like that made me piece together role blocking.
I have to my knowledge already acknowledged that I missed that post of jef's. And that I now see where the night action from jef was, you mentioned. Did I forget to write that? Its the very thing that made me less suspicious of you or hmmm, I really thought I wrote that, so must be part of my chain of thoughts that made me ask for it again or something? Or something else must have gone wrong. But yea, point being that I understand where you got it from. Actually while on the subject. Did you block/protect anyone on the first day Baz? Just a thought that occurred to me and you might already have mentioned it, been a good deal of time since then.

In regards of drinking:
Hmm, but did he know about the the fact that he was doomed? But hmm, no matter - Didn't really believe much in the theory. But yea, if you have a clue to Rodzaju's insane behavior, it could be interesting to see.
Votecount

3- Notfrenchyet - Damnation,Nmillar,Red Baron
2- Robbeasy - Notfrenchyet,Bazilisek
1- Sirprimalform - Robbeasy
1- Nmillar - jefequeso


Not Voting
- Sirprimalform, Orryyrro,Cruward_Darkeyes(sub needed)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to Lynch

Notfrenchyet is closest to lynch at L-3
Post edited January 09, 2012 by ViolatorX
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ViolatorX: 1 - Twilightbard - Red Baron
For the sake of correction, should note that I am note voting for twilightbard X, but instead notfrenchyet.
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ViolatorX: 1 - Twilightbard - Red Baron
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Red_Baron: For the sake of correction, should note that I am note voting for twilightbard X, but instead notfrenchyet.
Ah shit I hate these vote counts :(

Also Zchnique will be taking over from Cruward_Darkeyes, He will need some time to read the thread through

Damnation and Sirprimalform will be prodded tomorrow if they dont post
Post edited January 09, 2012 by ViolatorX
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Orryyrro: I'll wait until after the votecount, but I'm planning on voting Rob for many of the reasons outlined above by others.
To quote Leonardo da Vinci: This shit won't fly.
You agree with every single reason "others" have outlined? At the very least outline what reasons you emphasize.

Anyway, good day all. I'm sure you're all glad to see me.
As I told the mod, I haven't been following the game so it'll take me a while to catch up. Is there anything that is urgently needed from me that I can provide without reading? I mean, am I under any kind of pressure and need to claim, or some such? I really have no clue what is going on...

My current plan is to first read the current day, to get somewhat up to speed on what is going on right now, then do a full read from Day 1.
If anyone could point me to roughly what post number today started I would be very happy.