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Posted August 05, 2010
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Gundato: Mods: To the extent that all DD services support modding. If the "mod" is an add-on, no problems. if the "mod" requires changing the executable, there MAY be issues since DD uses slightly different ones (basically just different DRM).
Witcher patch: I have yet to test the TWEE:DC I bought on GG (price was right, and Impulse annoys me :p), but the patch was designed to remove disc-check DRM, and GamersGate already doesn't have that.
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angstrom: Most mods for games don't require changing the .exe files, do they? I never had to replace the .exe file for Oblivion, although some mods required using another .exe file. Won't that cause problems?

Can you see why I feel the need to smash my head against a wall every time someone asks if a DD service supports mods? :p
The problem is that some games, like VTM: Bloodlines, have obscenely robust unofficial patches. And those CAN have issues. Same with Oblivion and OBSE (but that was fixed within a week :p).
As far as needing to use another .exe file: That depends on the kind of mod. A lot of times, those are just fancy shortcuts that run the game with the appropriate command line parameters (OFP, UT 2k4, and UT3: I'm looking at you :p).
Posted August 05, 2010
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angstrom: Most mods for games don't require changing the .exe files, do they? I never had to replace the .exe file for Oblivion, although some mods required using another .exe file. Won't that cause problems?

Some versions like the D2D version of Fallout 3 have their own .exe so you can't use Fallout Script Extender with it as a lot of mods require. You can however use FOSE with the Steam version as that like the retail one has both a launcher exe and game exe the game exe having no DRM at all.
Posted August 05, 2010
I guess I'll just take these as a "maybe the mods will work, maybe not."
I hope the games on sale aren't like Oblivion, where if you don't mod it, the game is dry and bland.
Posted August 05, 2010
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angstrom: I guess I'll just take these as a "maybe the mods will work, maybe not."
I hope the games on sale aren't like Oblivion, where if you don't mod it, the game is dry and bland.

Actually, I would take it as "Pretty much all mods will work, so stop thinking DD magically breaks the ability for a .esp file to be read"
Posted August 05, 2010
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angstrom: Is it possible to use mods on the games downloaded through GamersGate, even the ones that have Securom? Also, I also heard that the Witcher has a patch that gets rid of DRM, so is it possible to use that patch on one sold through GamersGate?

As far as I know, GG is very mod friendly (that's what it is my preferred Direct Download site for "modern" games). Remember that GG was created by Paradox Interactive which is probably the most mod-friendly developer out there. GG also does not need you to be connected to play, so I believe the .exe file is the same as the retail one.
I played a lot of mods with game bought through GG, and no problem so far.
Post edited August 05, 2010 by Narwhal
Posted August 05, 2010
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Tserge: I am glad I snapped up the NWN 2 offer before it was removed. The expansion pack has a pretty good story imo. :)

I wish i did, left it a day too late, damn.
Posted August 05, 2010
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angstrom: I guess I'll just take these as a "maybe the mods will work, maybe not."
I hope the games on sale aren't like Oblivion, where if you don't mod it, the game is dry and bland.

It's increasingly rare for mods not to work. The bigger issue most of the time is modders using unofficial mod tools, meaning every time a new patch is released for the game, the mods break.
Posted August 06, 2010
Ok, i finally bought the Witcher - dunno when I'll get to play it. But i've wanted it for ages.
If CD Projekt are listening, they really should think about getting it on here sharpish. The longer they leave it, with it's price dropping below $9.99 quite often now, the less people will buy it here. (Which i'd rather have done).
And i'm guessing they'd get a much bigger cut if everyone had bought it here...
Posted August 06, 2010
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soulgrindr: Ok, i finally bought the Witcher - dunno when I'll get to play it. But i've wanted it for ages.
If CD Projekt are listening, they really should think about getting it on here sharpish. The longer they leave it, with it's price dropping below $9.99 quite often now, the less people will buy it here. (Which i'd rather have done).
And i'm guessing they'd get a much bigger cut if everyone had bought it here...

TWEE:DC is actually a very dangerous game to bring here, if you think about it.
Either they don't add new stuff, and (as you said) less people will buy it here. That hurts since CD Projekt is to GoG as Valve is to Steam.
Or, they add new shinies, and lots of people get it here. That makes the other DD services feel cheated and that GoG has an unfair advantage in selling CD Projekt games, which might hurt future games. Imagine if Valve offered to let Stardock sell a "chopped down and crappier" Half-life. Wouldn't end well :p
Posted August 06, 2010
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soulgrindr: Ok, i finally bought the Witcher - dunno when I'll get to play it. But i've wanted it for ages.
If CD Projekt are listening, they really should think about getting it on here sharpish. The longer they leave it, with it's price dropping below $9.99 quite often now, the less people will buy it here. (Which i'd rather have done).
And i'm guessing they'd get a much bigger cut if everyone had bought it here...
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Gundato: TWEE:DC is actually a very dangerous game to bring here, if you think about it.
Either they don't add new stuff, and (as you said) less people will buy it here. That hurts since CD Projekt is to GoG as Valve is to Steam.
Or, they add new shinies, and lots of people get it here. That makes the other DD services feel cheated and that GoG has an unfair advantage in selling CD Projekt games, which might hurt future games. Imagine if Valve offered to let Stardock sell a "chopped down and crappier" Half-life. Wouldn't end well :p

Stardock would never accept it because they don't want other DRM schemes in their store....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I have The Witcher EE, not the director's one, but I have yet to play it lol. So many games, only one lifetime.
Posted August 06, 2010
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Gundato: Imagine if Valve offered to let Stardock sell a "chopped down and crappier" Half-life. Wouldn't end well :p

Some publishers already do offer "cut down" versions of games to some distributors in place of the full version. And the distributors sell them without complaint.
For example:
King Arthur - The Role-playing Wargame. - Available on GamersGate, Impulse and Steam. Only the Steam version offers multiplayer (as it uses SteamWorks and both GamersGate and Impulse refused the Steamworks component).
Another example would be:
FIshdom 2. GamersGate are selling the "Standard" version for $19.99, while the developer sells the "Premium" edition with more content, for the exact same price via their site.
The point is, if Valve did offer a non-Steam protected, possibly "cut" version of their games to the other distributors, they'd sell it. Further, if GOG did get the Witcher here, and it had extras, the other distributors can't complain -- they've been able to sell the game for substantially longer period of time. Think of it like Microsoft's exclusivity deals but in reverse.
Posted August 06, 2010
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Gundato: Imagine if Valve offered to let Stardock sell a "chopped down and crappier" Half-life. Wouldn't end well :p
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bansama: Some publishers already do offer "cut down" versions of games to some distributors in place of the full version. And the distributors sell them without complaint.
For example:
King Arthur - The Role-playing Wargame. - Available on GamersGate, Impulse and Steam. Only the Steam version offers multiplayer (as it uses SteamWorks and both GamersGate and Impulse refused the Steamworks component).
Another example would be:
FIshdom 2. GamersGate are selling the "Standard" version for $19.99, while the developer sells the "Premium" edition with more content, for the exact same price via their site.
The point is, if Valve did offer a non-Steam protected, possibly "cut" version of their games to the other distributors, they'd sell it. Further, if GOG did get the Witcher here, and it had extras, the other distributors can't complain -- they've been able to sell the game for substantially longer period of time. Think of it like Microsoft's exclusivity deals but in reverse.

Problem is, most of the people who do that aren't operating their own "competing" service.
In a rational world, no one would care. But in this world, I am sure you can see how it could cause some grievances.
Posted August 06, 2010
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Gundato: I am sure you can see how it could cause some grievances.

Nope sorry. I don't. As with my second example, that's an industry norm for those games. In the case of Fishdom 2 (the developer/publisher Playrix) sell their games through a wide range of other distributors while keeping the special editions limited to just their site and/or one or two other distributors.
And really, when all the other distributors get to sell a game for a year or two before it's released on the developer's own service, and at a far higher price, there's going to be no cause for any bitching at all.
Posted August 06, 2010
At last, my purchase went through. I tried with oneclickbuy and it took my card. :D
Posted August 06, 2010
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