Only because fees were too high. He patched it after MS dropped fees.

I believe so, to be fair to him though that was due to the exorbitant price that MS demands from developers/publishers for each patch they want to upload.

You'd think MS would be more willing to accommodate this at a cheaper price or even freely since it can only result in a better experience for their customers. No one wants to play a buggy game when there's a bug-free alternative.

EDIT: ninja'd.

Also this is likely the most creative use of a story I'll ever come across that includes Beer, Fish and Blow.

Please, be careful before posting BS. You're comparing things that are COMPLETELY different. Boycotting companies with unethical practices is one thing, boycotting an artist based solely on his political/philosofical/religious views is a completely different matter.

TenNapel will not use the KS money to fund anti-gay campaigns, he will use it to fund his game, which i DID like. As a game designer i like him, and i'm not boycotting his games just because he has different opinions than mine. That would be just as ignorant and prejudicious. No, i don't agree with his view, but i believe in something called "freedom of speech". If he had spanked a homossexual to death or something like that, then yes it would be different, but that was far from being the case.

And how exactly is someone being selfish for buying Fez? Is everyone obliged to have the same opinon as yours now? What kind of evil has this guy done other than making some silly comments? Why the fuck should i boycott Fez because YOU want me to? Like i said, Phil Fish was not responsible for the massacre of jews during WW2, in case you didn't know. I can't see as much harm as you see on him. There are many games here published by companies which did much more harm than Fish could ever dream of. He's just a passionate indie developer that acts like an asshole on Twitter.

The way you say it makes him look like a child molester or something.

Oh yes, Beer did. Unless you seriously want me to believe that insulting Fish and Blow just because they didn't want to appear in his show is the right thing to do.

For some reason I couldn't care less if some game author is a jackass and a wife-beater, as long as the game is good. His problems in his personal life are not really my business, let the local police handle it if there was some crime committed.

I would have even bought Battlecruiser 3000 AD (sp?) games if they were any good, regardless of the game author, Derek Smart, apparently being an a-hole according to some.

Or, I couldn't care less if the Daikatana author told people to be his bitch and then he went to Romania to marry a girl younger than his own kids, or something. Who cares? Gimme the games already.

About Fez 2, or any other possible games this Phil Fish has created... I have no idea if it is a big loss or not if he really is out of the gaming business. I think I have installed and played a bit for the first Fez game, but I don't remember at all which kind of game it was. Probably a 2D platformer with oldie graphics style, right? I think I liked e.g. Trine and Giana Sisters better.

I've not watched the show and I've mainly read what's been posted in this thread. I have two questions:
1. How old are these guys?
2. What's so unique/ distinctive about Fez that warrants a sequel (haven't played it)?

Actually from what I read Beer first came into the whole situation through his invisible walls rant (to those that watch him he's well known for his rants) He didn't have anything to do with it up until then and didn't ask them to appear on his show (whatever show that was).

Other journalists emailed Fish and Blow to ask for their comments, they could have either commented or just ignored the requests. I havent found any tweets from Fish but Blows response to those emails was to hit up twitter and start insulting the journalists for asking his opinion, I'm unsure if Fish did the same but Marcus seems to imply that he did, and that's where he came in with his IW rant.

SSSHHH!!!! Do not mention that name, it brings forth the beast of a thousand flamewars!

Answering (or trying to, anyway) your questions:

1. Both should be old enough not to publicly and shamelessly offend each other. Phil Fish should be old enough not to be the diva he is. Marcus Beer should be old enough not to be a pretentious douche just because he's a "journalist".

2. Fez is actually a good game, if you're into that kind of thing. It's kind of a Tower Toppler clone (google it up, if you're not in the know), like someone said before, with good pixel art, a nice setting and the ability to explore three dimensions in a 2D world (akin to the mechanics in Super Paper Mario, for a quick reference). I understand why so many people boycott Fez, and I don't blame them, but if they could get past the asshole-ry of Phil Fish, and gave the game a chance, they would probably enjoy it. Is it worth a sequel? Well, it depends on what the game meant to you, and whether Fish still had something to give players taking place in that particular universe. I guess we'll never know, now.

They're both douchebags, but at least Fish has a good game to show, I guess, whereas all Beer does is being mean and rude to people just because they disagree with him, because "it's his job" and we should get on with the times, "it's the internet age, everyone is mean and stupid and so should you!"

Wow, i did not know 5 year olds could program a video game on their own. Looks like this child prodigy needs his nap time though.

Just leave the man in peace and let him get on with his job. I do not care how much of a douchebag or not he is. As long he is not doing anything illegal he should be free do his art as he wants, without the need to legitimize his existence in the field.

It does looks like he has some personal issues and a very big personality, but this hounding does not seem to help in this regard at all. You may or may not like his game, but it was a well crafted original piece. Congratulations to the gaming community for driving away another original designer.

I just don't think Fish should let the Annoyed Gamer's words stop him from making the sequel. It seems childish on his part, I mean who does that? His game wasn't what got attacked! Its almost like he couldn't get the sequel done so he is using this incident as an excuse or its just a publicity stunt where he will 'listen to his fan's outcries' and get the game uncanceled and released. It just seems well....fishy.

You do realise that this is an ongoing issue, it has been for years, This is just the straw that broke the camels back. Just let the man be.

I wasn't, until Google revealed that I know that game by its original (European) name "Nebulus".

http://www.mobygames.com/game/tower-toppler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZlZqcMbfos

Yeah, I recall playing that on Amiga... Maybe I played Fez too little, as I didn't instantly make the connection to Nebulus.

Its just sad that he is exiting the game business and giving up what he probably loves over all this. Hopefully he gets to cool down and re evaluate it.

But who stops him from making games? Nobody. Also if you are making publicly comments like "PC are for spreadsheets" or "Japanese games sucks" then you can expect that other will use similar words towards you. Acting rude is like a bait for other rude people. "Don't be a douche, if you can't stand other douches".

Putting how self-centered that comment was aside, that's how market works. Not to mention most people who have Fez don't even know who Phil Fish is, and good for them - I most definitely am not going to research personality of creators of all the content I buy.