Posted August 09, 2012
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Me Willie
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Leroux
Major Blockhead
Registered: Apr 2010
From Germany
Posted August 09, 2012
Really? That sounds a bit far-fetched to me ... I mean, the Vietnam war as an important theme in US pop culture also having a certain influence on Star Wars, okay, but identifying the rebels with the Vietcong and the Empire with the US ...? Huh, I never knew George Lucas was a "commie". ;)
Post edited August 09, 2012 by Leroux
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Jaime
Asa Nisi Masa
Registered: Apr 2009
From Germany
Posted August 09, 2012
Not saying that Lucas was making any kind of political statement, he wasn't, but I'd bet good money that the way the war played out influenced Star Wars. Technologically advanced, secular worldpower getting its ass kicked by a much smaller nation influenced by eastern spirituality - Lucas realized that that's exactly the kind of underdog story that could be turned into a good fantasy epic, and it was.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by Jaime
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Greed is good!
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agogfan
GoodOfflineGames
Registered: Jun 2011
From South Africa
Posted August 09, 2012
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(But still, I liked the plot and development in For your eyes, it kinda made sense, there was a story, something to follow, almost believable. I find Octopussy too much too completely random.)
If you're a fan of realism you must have enjoyed "The Living Daylights" which was also in the 80s. It was a good film but I prefer the more light-hearted Roger Moore Bond to the overly serious Timothy Dalton Bond.
And there was also a "View to a Kill", but I regard "Moonraker" (very nearly the 80s), "For Your Eyes Only" and "Octopussy" as the best of the Roger Moore era.
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Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted August 09, 2012
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If you're a fan of realism you must have enjoyed "The Living Daylights" which was also in the 80s. It was a good film but I prefer the more light-hearted Roger Moore Bond to the overly serious Timothy Dalton Bond.
And there was also a "View to a Kill", but I regard "Moonraker" (very nearly the 80s), "For Your Eyes Only" and "Octopussy" as the best of the Roger Moore era.
But I consider "realism" as a different thing from "seriousness". I don't like the living daylights at all, not just because I don't like the Dalton version of bond (I love Dalton in basically all his other roles), but because, like Octopussy and Moonraker, it made no sense : the plot was a disjointed series of sequences with very artificial ties, every character acting stupid, blatantly pretext events, etc. When I watch a movie, I like to follow its plot, it's logic, and I like things to flow naturally, like a well-oiled mechanism. In some bond movies, you have this. Films like diamonds are forever, goldfinger, for your eyes, goldeneye, the spy who (with some exceptions such as the stromberg invitation to his seabase : just rewatch that bit asking yourself why bond was invited, and to tell him what. It makes the dialogue hilarious). Look at the rifle practice sequence in Moonraker : Bond shoots a guy in a tree, makes a joke, nobody flinches, the party carries on. It is surrealist.
What I mean is that I like the spy investigation aspect, in bond movies. Because I like spy movies (like the Harry Palmer films with Michael Caine, or various cold war movies, etc). You can have a wacky comedy with a good coherent structure, and you can have brainless action movies with good coherent structures. Films where you understand why a sequence has to follow another, why something has to lead to some other thing. Movies like Robocop, Burn after reading, Jaws, Galaxy Quest, Midnight Run, Big trouble in little china, are flawless in that respect - and are not all serious. Taking oneself seriously is a bit independant from this aspect, because it's an aspect that is a bit independant from the genre. For me it's just good writing. And yes, you can have sketch-films that deliberately make no sense in their plots, but then you go for pure surrealism of nonsense comedy. In bond movies (especially the Dalton versions), it is accidental.
So. Yes, I like Moore much more than Dalton, as a Bond, and I like his era better. But rewatching some bond films has felt embarrassing, plot-wise, and it is not a bond-generated necessity, because half of bond movies -from all eras and tones- are very satisfying to me, in that regard. In short, you could have all the cheesy sequences of all the "bad" bond movies (I really don't mind crocodile submarines and venitian hovercrafts, I like them), but tied together by a better story, and not just "we need a chase here - okay, how will we justify it at that point - it's because they are baddies - right". That's the aspect that nags me.
As for the thread's topic (sorry for derailing it) :
1985 is the year of Silverado.
The 80s are awesome.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by Telika
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Zoltan999
Destroy them!
Registered: Jan 2012
From Other
Posted August 09, 2012
Another one of those high school/coming of age type movies the 80's were so famous for, that was a bit of a sleeper (kinda sneaked under the radar somehow back then), that I don't think anyone mentioned yet ,was Three O'clock High. Always brings a smile to my face everytime I watch it.
Won't argue with you there...the man did know how to make money though
Won't argue with you there...the man did know how to make money though
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TVs_Frank
DEEP HURTING
Registered: Mar 2009
From United States
Posted August 09, 2012
Airplane!
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
The Shining
Excalibur
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Evil Dead
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Thing
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
This is Spinal Tap
Back to the Future
Blue Velvet
Cameron Fry's Day Off
Evil Dead II
Full Metal Jacket
Die Hard
Caddyshack
Cheech and Chong's Next Movie
Flash Gordon
The Fog
The Return of the King
Superman II
Caveman
Clash of the Titans
Dragonslayer
Escape from New York
The Great Muppet Caper
History of the World: Part 1
Stripes
The Beastmaster
Conan the Barbarian
The Dark Crystal
First Blood
The Secret of NIMH
Swamp Thing
Tron
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension
Beverly Hills Cop
Ghostbusters
Johnny Dangerously
The Last Starfighter
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Top Secret!
Clue
Commando
The Goonies
The Last Dragon
Real Genius
Spies Like Us
Young Sherlock Holmes
An American Tail
Big Trouble in Little China
Highlander
Labyrinth
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Transformers The Movie
Adventures in Babysitting
*batteries not included
Dragnet
Lethal Weapon
The Lost Boys
Masters of the Universe
The Monster Squad
Predator
The Princess Bride
The Running Man
Spaceballs
The Land Before Time
The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!
Scrooged
They Live!
Willow
Batman
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
The 'Burbs
Major League
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
UHF
Krull
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
A View to a Kill
Godzilla 1985
I think that's everything....
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
The Shining
Excalibur
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Evil Dead
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Thing
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
This is Spinal Tap
Back to the Future
Blue Velvet
Cameron Fry's Day Off
Evil Dead II
Full Metal Jacket
Die Hard
Caddyshack
Cheech and Chong's Next Movie
Flash Gordon
The Fog
The Return of the King
Superman II
Caveman
Clash of the Titans
Dragonslayer
Escape from New York
The Great Muppet Caper
History of the World: Part 1
Stripes
The Beastmaster
Conan the Barbarian
The Dark Crystal
First Blood
The Secret of NIMH
Swamp Thing
Tron
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension
Beverly Hills Cop
Ghostbusters
Johnny Dangerously
The Last Starfighter
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Top Secret!
Clue
Commando
The Goonies
The Last Dragon
Real Genius
Spies Like Us
Young Sherlock Holmes
An American Tail
Big Trouble in Little China
Highlander
Labyrinth
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Transformers The Movie
Adventures in Babysitting
*batteries not included
Dragnet
Lethal Weapon
The Lost Boys
Masters of the Universe
The Monster Squad
Predator
The Princess Bride
The Running Man
Spaceballs
The Land Before Time
The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!
Scrooged
They Live!
Willow
Batman
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
The 'Burbs
Major League
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
UHF
Krull
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
A View to a Kill
Godzilla 1985
I think that's everything....
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Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted August 09, 2012
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Also taking the wages of fear as an exemple is perfectly unfair because George Arnaud kicks ass on his own (you should grab his novels immediately).
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Jaime
Asa Nisi Masa
Registered: Apr 2009
From Germany
Posted August 09, 2012
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But, I will add those movies you've listed that I haven't seen yet to my ever growing list, thanks.
Conceded. The movie doesn't really belong to the era I was talking about, anyway. It's great though, and deserved to be mentioned.
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F1ach
Mortes best mate
Registered: May 2011
From Ireland
Posted August 09, 2012
The Breakfast Club, there were many other good/great movies, but this one had it all, set mostly in just one room, the acting and story were well above the norm for that period.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/
Post edited August 09, 2012 by F1ach
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Lou
Eschalon - Book One
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted August 09, 2012
How about Flash Gordon - With the Queen Soundtrack
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ashout
New User
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted August 09, 2012
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karacho
Hokuto no Ken
Registered: Dec 2008
From Germany
Posted August 10, 2012
Dont hit me if i am off with the Dates:
Die Hard
Rambo
Rocky
Indiana Jones
Robocop
Conan
Fist of the North Star
Die Hard
Rambo
Rocky
Indiana Jones
Robocop
Conan
Fist of the North Star