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Posted January 11, 2009
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Andy_Panthro: Expectations were hardly that high, Fallout 1+2 were hardly flawless after all. The idea that there are groups of rabid fans expecting a perfect Van Buren-esque fallout sequel is quite frankly bullshit.
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Syme: You seem to have never visited NMA.

On the contrary, I've read much of what they've had to say, helpfully you can view a lot of their forums without having to register with them.
It seems to be assumed that they are one all-consuming mass of hatred, when in fact there are multiple opinions from various people. They are more critical than average perhaps, but they are not all rabid fanboys.
Either way, NMA is hardly representative of those of us who played the first two games when they came out in 97-98, which must be many thousands of people (millions even?).
Posted January 11, 2009
I see them differenly, but it doesn't really matter anyway. It was beside the point of my post that you first quoted. I did not posit groups of rabid fans, as that would be the opposite of what I actually said if you think about it closely. It was a comment on basic human nature, which is either understood or not.
Posted January 11, 2009
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Syme: I see them differenly, but it doesn't really matter anyway. It was beside the point of my post that you first quoted. I did not posit groups of rabid fans, as that would be the opposite of what I actually said if you think about it closely. It was a comment on basic human nature, which is either understood or not.

I bow to your Bill Clinton-esque way of doublespeak.
I'm hardly a demanding guy, if you look at my posts. All I really wanted was a Fallout that stayed at least a little true to the game play and story. Hardly a game that can't exist in the real world.
They did neither. Instead they re skinned oblivion and pumped out a quick moneymaker. If you know anything about Fallout, then that's plainly obvious.
Posted January 11, 2009
I hope the fallout mmo is as good as it sounds.. yay interplay!
Posted January 11, 2009
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Shala: I bow to your Bill Clinton-esque way of doublespeak.

When the discussion descends to ad hominems, it's no longer worth it.
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Posted January 11, 2009
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Weclock: I hope the fallout mmo is as good as it sounds.. yay interplay!

Very few MMO's get anywhere near doing what they say they're gonna do. Sadly.
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This thread has been quite interesting though I feel a guilt akin to going into a public toilet when there's a huge queue and leaving behind something that...lingers for hours for starting this thread.
If the discussion is gonna continue try to be alittle more civil to each other. We're all entitled to our own opinions at the end of the day and I'd expect alittle better from the GoG crowd then some of the posts that I've seen in here.
Posted January 12, 2009
One problem with a Fallout MMO is the fact you're going to have thousands of people running around and ruining the "desolate" effect of the wasteland; that's just my opinion. I do hope Interplay makes enough money from it to buy back the Fallout license and never let it fall into Bethesda's hands again.
Posted January 12, 2009
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Shala: I bow to your Bill Clinton-esque way of doublespeak.
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Syme: When the discussion descends to ad hominems, it's no longer worth it.

I'm diggin your straw man there.
No biggie, avoid my worthier statements.
Posted January 12, 2009
I'm not an MMO fan, I've tried a few and despite the initial explorations and enjoyment, they all end up feeling the same in the end for me.
I remember hearing about Ultima Online, and thinking what a good idea that could be, but it left me with a very bitter taste in the mouth. Much of the gameplay becomes repetitive, and the jerk ratio became quite high. Coupled with the fact I only had a 56k connection at the time, it became a thoroughly disappointing and expensive process.
In retrospect, I wish that they had just concentrated on making new Ultima games in the mould of U4-7 or Underworld.
MMOs if anything are far more popular now, so this trend will most likely continue rather than die off. With a little luck, this hopefully will have no impact on the games I prefer though, and I will keep an eye on the Fallout MMO to see what they do.
Posted January 12, 2009
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Andy_Panthro: I'm not an MMO fan, I've tried a few and despite the initial explorations and enjoyment, they all end up feeling the same in the end for me.
I remember hearing about Ultima Online, and thinking what a good idea that could be, but it left me with a very bitter taste in the mouth. Much of the gameplay becomes repetitive, and the jerk ratio became quite high. Coupled with the fact I only had a 56k connection at the time, it became a thoroughly disappointing and expensive process.
In retrospect, I wish that they had just concentrated on making new Ultima games in the mould of U4-7 or Underworld.
MMOs if anything are far more popular now, so this trend will most likely continue rather than die off. With a little luck, this hopefully will have no impact on the games I prefer though, and I will keep an eye on the Fallout MMO to see what they do.
one would hope the mmo crash would deter people.
Posted January 12, 2009
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Weclock: one would hope the mmo crash would deter people.

Unfortunately (or fortunately in some cases), the world is filled with dreamers that think their idea will work despite nothing working before, and think that they can make millions doing it.
Unfortunately for many of these people, Second Life and World of Warcraft has taken up a vast amount of the potential consumer base (especially in North America and Europe).
There are plenty of pounds to be made, and perhaps something truly great will be found amongst all the chaff, but I think I'll just pass.
Posted January 12, 2009
my look at it is, if I've built a giant sandcastle over here, why should I move over there to just start from scratch?
or, it is better to rule in hell than serve in paradise.
Posted January 12, 2009
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Weclock: or, it is better to rule in hell than serve in paradise.

Definitely! Oh man, I want to play Dungeon Keeper so bad right now :-(
Posted January 12, 2009
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Wishbone: Definitely! Oh man, I want to play Dungeon Keeper so bad right now :-(

It's contageous
Posted January 12, 2009
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JudasIscariot: One problem with a Fallout MMO is the fact you're going to have thousands of people running around and ruining the "desolate" effect of the wasteland; that's just my opinion.

That is the main problem I see with it. They could do everything else better than it's ever been done, but it would be spoiled if they aren't able to get the right atmosphere.
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