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muaddib: I honestly don't like those games that way. The Unreal patch to make it look great on newer pc's is nice because Unreal was a graphical beauty years ago. It might sound strange, but to me Duke, Doom, Hexen etc. look ugly when they look so good. It's just way more fun playing it but without any graphical changes.
If I want Duke3D to look like newer games I'll just play Duke Nukem Forever when it comes out ;-)

I guess it depends when you started. I couldn't play Doom when it first came out as my PC wasn't powerful enough.. but i remember trying it on my friend's new £2000 pc and being blown away.
A little later when could upgrade my PC I raced out and bought Doom2. I still don't think ANY game since then has matched the amazement I got from the graphics... it was stunning.
Using something like the doomsday engine doesn't bring back any of that kind of feeling.. but the smoothing makes it look a little less ugly, the mouselook makes it feel more natural now, and i really like having realtime lighting... it almost has a kind of beauty when 50 fireballs are lighting up a dark room.
As for DNF... i'll believe it when i see it ;-)
Man, I got DN3D + Plutonium Pak somewhere on disc....heh.
Dang, makes me feel...old....
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MysterD: Man, I got DN3D + Plutonium Pak somewhere on disc....heh.
Dang, makes me feel...old....

Don't feel too old, i use the plutonium pack every time i want to 'splode some alien brain head thingies.
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avatar_58: Yes but I assume the dev/publishers pay something to use GOG's services. Why would 3DR pay someone to host Duke3D when they are already doing it themselves for free?

3DR wouldn't pay GOG to host the files. GOG would pay 3DR for the right to host the files and sell copies. 3DR just makes more money hosting it themselves and selling it directly.
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avatar_58: Yes but I assume the dev/publishers pay something to use GOG's services. Why would 3DR pay someone to host Duke3D when they are already doing it themselves for free?
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hobbes543: 3DR wouldn't pay GOG to host the files. GOG would pay 3DR for the right to host the files and sell copies. 3DR just makes more money hosting it themselves and selling it directly.

is it available for digital download and with no drm, the soundtrack, and etc via 3DRealms? I didn't think so. You still have to pay $$ for the soundtrack separately so I doubt we'll ever see The Duke on GOG.
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hobbes543: 3DR wouldn't pay GOG to host the files. GOG would pay 3DR for the right to host the files and sell copies. 3DR just makes more money hosting it themselves and selling it directly.

I'm pretty sure thats not how it works. Like steam I'm sure behind the scenes publishers pay for the right to have their game hosted here.