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Wishbone: If Disney can take The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, arguably one of the great tragedies in literature, and remake it, complete with dancing and singing gargoyles and a happy ending, I don't see why this should come as a surprise to anyone.
Yes, the media industry is raping classical literature. Yes, they deserve to a slow death, such as trampling by ducks. But it's not a new development, and it's hardly surprising anymore.

I respectfully disagree :)
Disneyfication is one thing, turning Dante into a goddamned John Rambo is another.
You don't see Quasimodo picking up a double barrel shotgun and start shooting things at random in the Disney movie.
It's not even worth thinking about. It'll do nothing other than raise your blood pressure and maybe shoot a bit of steam out of your ears :\.
But how can it be a very bad thing to use a piece of fiction but agree that any other subject is fine?
Dante wrote a story. Well, infact he wrote several, but in essence what he wrote was fiction. People have not been disrespected nor have real events or real characters been abused or re-writen.
Everyone knows about Dracula and Frankenstein but seems OK to play those games and watch the endless films that stray completely from the original stories, but when it comes to Dante people get all unecessary.
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JudasIscariot: I feel the same way, brother! Only thing is EA won't remove his corpse carefully they will just dig it out with construction equipment and then sift through it looking for small morsels that will make them money.

Considering this is EA we're talking about, probably you got it righter :-P
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Elmodiddly: But how can it be a very bad thing to use a piece of fiction but agree that any other subject is fine?
Dante wrote a story. Well, infact he wrote several, but in essence what he wrote was fiction. People have not been disrespected nor have real events or real characters been abused or re-writen.
Everyone knows about Dracula and Frankenstein but seems OK to play those games and watch the endless films that stray completely from the original stories, but when it comes to Dante people get all unecessary.

i'd argue that there's a bit of difference between "fiction" and high class literature
Post edited February 10, 2009 by WBGhiro
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Elmodiddly: But how can it be a very bad thing to use a piece of fiction but agree that any other subject is fine?
Dante wrote a story. Well, infact he wrote several, but in essence what he wrote was fiction. People have not been disrespected nor have real events or real characters been abused or re-writen.
Everyone knows about Dracula and Frankenstein but seems OK to play those games and watch the endless films that stray completely from the original stories, but when it comes to Dante people get all unecessary.

Yeah, but all the movies, books and games starring Dracula are all about vampires. They are all (with some degrees of variation) essentially horror stories about bloodsucking demons of the night.
IMHO, here they're taking a work about philosphy, religion, moral, the nature of mankind, the nature of GOD HIMSELF and they're turning it into Doom.
How would you feel if they took vampires and put it in a cheesy teen angst fueled romantic comedy?
Oh, wait....
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Grog: IMHO, here they're taking a work about philosphy, religion, moral, the nature of mankind, the nature of GOD HIMSELF and they're turning it into Doom.

Oh don't exaggerate! It's more like Golden Axe.
It is like they're stealing the name of the author, putting in a few set dressings to make it look like they respect him and then just doing what the fuck they want and cashing in on the name, much like a movie tie in game.
Hmm, then again there might be a market for William Shakespeare's Ye Olde Xtreme Ping-Pong Challenge...
Hamlet
Young Prince Hamlet of Norway must defeat his evil uncle King Claudius who has usurped his father's throne through a pact with a sect of evil necromancers. His only allies are Ophelia, a beautiful but fierce warrior maiden promised to him since birth, and her brother Laertes, a happy go lucky bard with a penchant for trouble. Together they must defeat Claudius's undead armies and banish him back to the abyss. Only then will the mystic land of Norway be freed from tyranny!
Featuring Leonard Nemoy as the voice of Guildencrantz Rosenstern, the monstrous warrior with two minds, torn between good and evil, who appears for about 10 minutes and then you kill him.
Post edited February 10, 2009 by Shoelip
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Shoelip: Hamlet
Young Prince Hamlet of Norway must defeat his evil uncle King Claudius who has usurped his father's throne through a pact with a sect of evil necromancers. His only allies are Ophelia, a beautiful but fierce warrior maiden promised to him since birth, and her brother Laertes, a happy go lucky bard with a penchant for trouble. Together they must defeat Claudius's undead armies and banish him back to the abyss. Only then will the mystic land of Norway be freed from tyranny!
Featuring Leonard Nemoy as the voice of Guildencrantz Rosenstern, the monstrous warrior with two minds, torn between good and evil, who appears for about 10 minutes and then you kill him.

You should write for Bethesda! XD
That's exactly who I was thinking of. Except Bethesda only makes open world games... Not that they wouldn't be willing to make a crappy attempt to fit the concept from a fully linear action game into an open world action game with RPG elements.
@Grog & Shoelip: shhhh, don't go giving them ideas or if you do remember to demand hefty royalties from them first for using your ideas ;) :P
I just hope EA doesn't in it's demended mind suddenly remember the huge pile of old franchises it has stol... er legally aquired and start "bringging them up to modern standards" as they like to call it.
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Petrell: @Grog & Shoelip: shhhh, don't go giving them ideas or if you do remember to demand hefty royalties from them first for using your ideas ;) :P
I just hope EA doesn't in it's demended mind suddenly remember the huge pile of old franchises it has stol... er legally aquired and start "bringging them up to modern standards" as they like to call it.

They can't do any worse than Ultima 9......
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Petrell: @Grog & Shoelip: shhhh, don't go giving them ideas or if you do remember to demand hefty royalties from them first for using your ideas ;) :P
I just hope EA doesn't in it's demended mind suddenly remember the huge pile of old franchises it has stol... er legally aquired and start "bringging them up to modern standards" as they like to call it.
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JudasIscariot: They can't do any worse than Ultima 9......

Considering U8&U9 were made under management of EA wouldn't that sort of prove my point. And about U9, I'm sure EA would prove you wrong. :D
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Petrell: @Grog & Shoelip: shhhh, don't go giving them ideas or if you do remember to demand hefty royalties from them first for using your ideas ;) :P
I just hope EA doesn't in it's demended mind suddenly remember the huge pile of old franchises it has stol... er legally aquired and start "bringging them up to modern standards" as they like to call it.
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JudasIscariot: They can't do any worse than Ultima 9......

Oh U9 wasn't THAT bad. Buggier than anything else I've played sure and featured pretty sloppy coding since it wouldn't run smoothly on my P4 2.8c and GF6800GT much less the hardware of the day but it was still fun. It was too action oriented and you did lose the party system but you lost that in 8 as well
I still think EA could rake in money hand over fist if they re-coded their old games for compatibility ONLY and sold them though the xbox live arcade or PSN store. They'd never re-release them for PC of course because they'd immediately lose TRILLIONS of dollars to piracy but take a simple port of something like Syndicate to the XBLA, pretty it up a bit, maybe pop in a few achievements/trophies ("Persuaded" a new agent, fully upgrade an agent, destroy 5 rival companies etc) make controller layouts for those nutjobs who prefer controllers but making sure to support USB keyboards & mice and I'd be dropping cash like mad.
Basically give it the R-Type Dimensions treatment, same game only prettier and made for the console
Post edited February 10, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Wishbone: If Disney can take The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, arguably one of the great tragedies in literature, and remake it, complete with dancing and singing gargoyles and a happy ending, I don't see why this should come as a surprise to anyone.
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Grog: I respectfully disagree :)
Disneyfication is one thing, turning Dante into a goddamned John Rambo is another.
You don't see Quasimodo picking up a double barrel shotgun and start shooting things at random in the Disney movie.

No, and he doesn't do cute little musical acts with living gargoyles in the book. What's your point? One is misrepresenting the original material at one extreme end of the spectrum, and the other is doing the same at the other end. I don't see why you think there's a difference. You'd be fine with "Disney's Dante's Inferno" then?