It launches Origin when you play.

1 hour and 35 minutes before Battlefield 1942 is finished installing. I totally did not expect it to be this slow, sorry.

Honestly i think that you are the one who doesn't know how business work. What you are saying is that EA is wrong for buying a few independent companies that were on sale. Every company in the world does the same thing. It's actually one of the most common business practices, but according to you, EA can't do it. I wonder why.

You either didn't understand or didn't read my post properly. What i said is that companies are made with a single purpose: to make money, and as such, they can't be judged as being "good" or "evil". You can assign these adjectives to human actions, but a company is not a person, a company is a legal fiction created to optimize economical results.

What i'm saying is that EA is just acting like a company, that's all. Like i said, buying companies is a very common practice in the business world. This is neither imoral nor ilegal, unless that means creating a monopoly, which is clearly not the case, there are plenty of gaming companies out there.

Also, i'm not talking about whether companies follow the laws or not, that subject is beyond the scope of my arguments. But if you insist on it, then please, tell me, which laws did EA break, exactly? And how exactly is EA trying to disturb smaller competition? You know, there are plenty of very talented indie studios out there that EA could buy in a heartbeat.

Again, you missed the point. I didn't say that liberalism was perfect, i actually think that it has many flaws. But i just can't see what harm EA is doing that would need external regulation. WHat i'm trying to say and you can't understand is that EA is a company, and companies buy other companies, and if the economical results are not good enough, they will be shut down. I just can't see how this is related to liberalism's flaws or whatever.

If you want to make accusations, you have to prove it. I'm sorry, but i will not buy your theories without proof. Actually, you will never convince anyone that way. If the companies they bought were making money, why would they close them? It makes no sense.



I agree with you about shutting servers for some games down. That is a dick move by EA. It's impossible to keep servers up forever, since these cost money, but they could certainly keep the servers up a little longer than a few years.

About the fact that the games are not on EA's website, i really can't see what's the problem with that. EA is a massive and old company, they have made/published hundreds of games already. I can't blame them for not storing information on every game they have ever released on their main website. There are other sites that have a database (such as mobygames). Now tell me which big company from the 90s still holds a database about all their games ever produced.

And why buying smaller companies makes them evil?

The fact that EA releases their classics here at least show that they care about their old games at some extent. We certainly know companies that don't give a fuck about old games (Lucasarts, Capcom, Konami).

You need Origin installed to play the game. Look below for a pic of the message that appears after you try to run Battlefield 1942 after uninstalling Origin.

Thanks. Not what I hoped for, but it does answer the question I had. Thanks for investing the time and effort to test it, and post the result here! :)

No problem.

Well I tried and it didn't do anything :(. Thanks for the help anyway.

You're twisting my arguments. I have never said anything about liberalism nor defended it, don't make up stuff, you'll never convince others that way. What i said was that you're blaming EA for the way the market works. Like i have already said, you're mad at EA just because they bought a few smaller companies and closed them after some time. What i said is that this is how the market works, companies buy smaller oners, studios close everyday. There's usually nothing imoral/ilegal with it, and in EA's case, i doubt there is anything wrong with buying the mentioned companies.

That's exatly what i said. EA can make choices, but these choices are made considering the situation of the market. Let me give you an example. Let's say there are 2 games (X and Y) in pre-production phase and EA has to decide which one will be developed. How do you think the decision will be made? Based on which game that they consider to be the best for gamers like you and me? No, they'll make a rational decision based on which one will sell more according to the market's condition. If X is a 4X strategy game and Y is a FPS, it's obvious that they'll choose to fund game Y because it has higher chances of selling more due to the demand for shooters in the market.

You have yet to explain me how EA is abusing their power. Buying other companies is a matter of getting stronger in the market, not "abusing" it.


Hey, hold on, let's get facts straight here. EA didn't close PopCap. They closed one of it's divisions.

Again you're twisting my arguments. I have never said that the market doesn't need regulation. It does. However, intervention should be made only when necessary, when one company is really abusing their power to violate people's rights, make a monopoly or break the laws, which are not the case with EA. Like i have said many times already, buying other companies is a common practice in business. There's nothing morally or legally wrong with it, like it or not.

No, i'm not. I didn't even touch the subject of liberalism. EA did nothing beyond common business practices. You are going WAY over the top just because EA closed a few studios. They can be criticized, when there are valid reasons to do so, and this is not the case. EA didn't do anything harmful to the market or society. EA simply acted like a company, because (surprise) EA IS actually a company. Companies buy other companies, this is a way of gaining strength in the market. There's usually nothing harmful with it.

Now please, tell me, how is EA being amoral or imoral? Unless you are suggesting that EA is amoral for running their own business and buying your beloved gaming companies.
Yeah, i agree, but how does this apply to EA? Which rule did EA break? How did EA abuse the market?


It's baffling how over the top you are going with EA just because of the fact that it uses common business practices to achieve better positions in the market.

The way you're saying it looks like EA is like Enron or Monsanto. These 2 did abuse their power, brake the laws and take decisions harmful to the market and the society. EA doesn't even come close. When EA bought Westwood, Origin, Bullfrog, and then closed them a few year later, it was just a business move well within the borders of morality and legality.

But...But...EA is EVAL and stuff! They closed studios down! Of course, those studios had to choose to sell to them in the first place...but we need to magically absolve them of all guilt and totally blame EA because we LIKED those studios and stuff! And...uhhh...EA and the sucking! And...stuff! Yeah, stuff! Totally.

EA were also responsible for the GFC ;)