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this future is dissapointing as far as operating systems are going, the windows XP crowd must have been prophets, everyone of them. atleast more games are comming to linux, soon we may all be free.

and if any of you that havent tried windows 10 were curious about Cortana, its like Siri, but less good
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zer00o: this future is dissapointing as far as operating systems are going, the windows XP crowd must have been prophets, everyone of them. atleast more games are comming to linux, soon we may all be free.

and if any of you that havent tried windows 10 were curious about Cortana, its like Siri, but less good
I'm actually excited for chrome OS.
Chrome OS is linux. Running crouton, you can create a chroot environment with all standard linux packages. The kernel and drivers involved are straight from chrome os, so everything just works.

Google announced that ChromeOS will be getting access to the play store on several chromebook models.

So that's now one device, with 3 readily available OS environments at the same time.

I've run quite a few gog games on my cheap ass chromebook, running linux - and so far quite pleased with the bang for buck level here :)

I expect chrome os and android to expand a little farther with Intel's decision to kill of the atom line. Atom's current generation is quite capable, and powers windows' litte x86 tablets and 'hybrids'. Without atom (baytrail, cedartrail) expect small form factors to fall to android, chromeos and ios.

I wouldn't be surprised if chromeos tablets were coming too. Kept my gog and humblebundle accounts stocked for my own windows exodus. wish gog also did apk sales.
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morrowslant: Windows 10 has another 2 months before their free upgrade offer officially expires. *wink wink*

The easiest way to avoid automatically upgrading to Windows 10 from Win7 is to use the
"Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them" setting in Windows Update,
and uncheck the "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates".
Then either never approve recommended updates or wait 3-5 weeks before approving them to see if Microsoft tried sneaking in more spyware monitoring.
This, so much this.
Take a little time to read through the updates folks. Seriously.
It will be less time spent in the end than trying to remove all that shit later when it starts nagging you about win10.

For those fo you unable to change this setting for one reason or another? You have my condolences... and its also probably a work computer so just bitch at IT or something.
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zer00o: this future is dissapointing as far as operating systems are going, the windows XP crowd must have been prophets, everyone of them. atleast more games are comming to linux, soon we may all be free.

and if any of you that havent tried windows 10 were curious about Cortana, its like Siri, but less good
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Beomagi: I'm actually excited for chrome OS.
Chrome OS is linux. Running crouton, you can create a chroot environment with all standard linux packages. The kernel and drivers involved are straight from chrome os, so everything just works.

Google announced that ChromeOS will be getting access to the play store on several chromebook models.

So that's now one device, with 3 readily available OS environments at the same time.

I've run quite a few gog games on my cheap ass chromebook, running linux - and so far quite pleased with the bang for buck level here :)

I expect chrome os and android to expand a little farther with Intel's decision to kill of the atom line. Atom's current generation is quite capable, and powers windows' litte x86 tablets and 'hybrids'. Without atom (baytrail, cedartrail) expect small form factors to fall to android, chromeos and ios.

I wouldn't be surprised if chromeos tablets were coming too. Kept my gog and humblebundle accounts stocked for my own windows exodus. wish gog also did apk sales.
is chrome os different from the stuff they put on chromebooks?
because im not ready for a browser operating system just yet.
As a person who have to live with Win10 I can tell you that: as OS it is good, as privacy and update side, it is bad, what I did at me : installled with all off options(options about privacy), got to options and try to off what remain, installed O&O ShutUp and enabled all options, disabled Windows Update/Firewall from services.msc, instaled Comodo Firewall on Custom mode(so he ask me every time for allow/deny if anything try to get on internet), once a month I activate/run Windows update and after, run O&O SU, half a year and still work good, so almost can close what M$ 'listen' to me.
As a former Win7 user, I can tell Win 10 it is better (aside 1 game who was a pain to make it work in win 7 and no work in win10).
For now I have my laptop in dual boot win 10 with Linux Mageia , but most of time I stay in Win, linux it is more for sensitive work(like bank work)...
Btw, at least at win 10 you can easy shut down most of spy, but to my smartphone with android, I just give up...
Post edited May 30, 2016 by pigulici
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te_lanus: switch to a friendlier OS like Linux
Besides a penguin mascot that looks kind of constipated, there is nothing friendly about Linux. Not the ease of use, not the community, not the developer love, etc.

It would be nice if it really was a good alternative but it's nowhere close to one yet.

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pigulici: disabled Windows Update/Firewall from services.msc
That actually stopped Windows 10 completely from updating for me, funnily enough. :P
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pigulici: As a person who have to live with Win10 I can tell you that: as OS it is good, as privacy and update side, it is bad, what I did at me : installled with all off options(options about privacy), got to options and try to off what remain, installed O&O ShutUp and enabled all options, disabled Windows Update/Firewall from services.msc, instaled Comodo Firewall on Custom mode(so he ask me every time for allow/deny if anything try to get on internet), once a mont I activate/run Windows update and after, run O&O SU, half a year and still work good, so almost can close what M$ 'lesten' to me.
As a former Win7 user, I can tell Win 10 it is better (aside 1 game who was a pain to make it work in win 7 and no work in win10).
For now I have my laptop in dual boot win 10 with Linux Mageia , but most of time I stay in Win, linux it is more for sensitive work(like bank work)...
Btw, at least at win 10 you can easy shut down most of spy, but to my smartphone with android, I just give up...
On the Smartphone you can replace your smartphone OS with Cyanogen mod, MIUI, OxygenOS etc
(Make sure to BACKUP your current smartphone OS if things go wrong)

https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
http://oneplus.wonderhowto.com/how-to/dont-like-cyanogenmod-here-are-4-great-alternative-roms-for-your-oneplus-one-0163954/

I tested out with Cyanogenmod and MIUI. With great satisfaction, I can finally block Google Play and other apps permission to access my contact numbers, SMS, Storage, Location, Calender, Camera etc etc.

Even though these apps force me to accept giving it permission to things that does not make sense, I can disable the permission that does not make sense. (Why a app that help me read need my location, camera, contact and SMS?)
http://www.guidingtech.com/42045/cyanogenmod-privacy-guard/


Check if your current phone is support by Cyanogen mod as it may not support newer phone / less popular phone, that's the downside of a non profit community project. On the upside, the community will know if someone is baking in malicious spyware to the code because it is not lock out by proprietary software by for profit companies.
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pigulici: As a person who have to live with Win10 I can tell you that: as OS it is good, as privacy and update side, it is bad, what I did at me : installled with all off options(options about privacy), got to options and try to off what remain, installed O&O ShutUp and enabled all options, disabled Windows Update/Firewall from services.msc, instaled Comodo Firewall on Custom mode(so he ask me every time for allow/deny if anything try to get on internet), once a mont I activate/run Windows update and after, run O&O SU, half a year and still work good, so almost can close what M$ 'lesten' to me.
As a former Win7 user, I can tell Win 10 it is better (aside 1 game who was a pain to make it work in win 7 and no work in win10).
For now I have my laptop in dual boot win 10 with Linux Mageia , but most of time I stay in Win, linux it is more for sensitive work(like bank work)...
Btw, at least at win 10 you can easy shut down most of spy, but to my smartphone with android, I just give up...
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Gnostic: On the Smartphone you can replace your smartphone OS with Cyanogen mod, MIUI, OxygenOS etc
(Make sure to BACKUP your current smartphone OS if things go wrong)

https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
http://oneplus.wonderhowto.com/how-to/dont-like-cyanogenmod-here-are-4-great-alternative-roms-for-your-oneplus-one-0163954/

I tested out with Cyanogenmod and MIUI. With great satisfaction, I can finally block Google Play and other apps permission to access my contact numbers, SMS, Storage, Location, Calender, Camera etc etc.

Even though these apps force me to accept giving it permission to things that does not make sense, I can disable the permission that does not make sense. (Why a app that help me read need my location, camera, contact and SMS?)
http://www.guidingtech.com/42045/cyanogenmod-privacy-guard/

Check if your current phone is support by Cyanogen mod as it may not support newer phone / less popular phone, that's the downside of a non profit community project. On the upside, the community will know if someone is baking in malicious spyware to the code because it is not lock out by proprietary software by for profit companies.
Yeah, I have a not so known Huawei, so no support, it is my first one (it have almost 2yrs), for the next one I will look to have more support on this side...
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te_lanus: switch to a friendlier OS like Linux
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MaximumBunny: Besides a penguin mascot that looks kind of constipated, there is nothing friendly about Linux. Not the ease of use, not the community, not the developer love, etc.

It would be nice if it really was a good alternative but it's nowhere close to one yet.
I don't understand why people say it's not user friendly. I use it daily and it's easier in use than Vista, 8 and 10. I understand a few years ago (maybe 10+ years ago).

For the community, the people I've met and interact with is quite friendly.
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Lin545: Yeah right ;)
You don't know me. Please don't assume that you knew my work schedule, my familial obligations, my few hours of free time. Your side comment was unnecessary.
Post edited May 30, 2016 by TodaysLoneWolf
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Gnostic: Do you know if there is any good place to buy bare bone laptop? All the new laptop seems to come with window 10. Even I can reformat them to Linux + Window 7 I don't want to give Microsoft their cut of the sales
Not bare-bone, but Dell have a few machines with Ubuntu. You might have to look in the business segment rather than consumer machines though.
Post edited May 30, 2016 by Maighstir
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Gnostic: On the Smartphone you can replace your smartphone OS with Cyanogen mod, MIUI, OxygenOS etc
(Make sure to BACKUP your current smartphone OS if things go wrong)

https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
http://oneplus.wonderhowto.com/how-to/dont-like-cyanogenmod-here-are-4-great-alternative-roms-for-your-oneplus-one-0163954/

I tested out with Cyanogenmod and MIUI. With great satisfaction, I can finally block Google Play and other apps permission to access my contact numbers, SMS, Storage, Location, Calender, Camera etc etc.

Even though these apps force me to accept giving it permission to things that does not make sense, I can disable the permission that does not make sense. (Why a app that help me read need my location, camera, contact and SMS?)
http://www.guidingtech.com/42045/cyanogenmod-privacy-guard/

Check if your current phone is support by Cyanogen mod as it may not support newer phone / less popular phone, that's the downside of a non profit community project. On the upside, the community will know if someone is baking in malicious spyware to the code because it is not lock out by proprietary software by for profit companies.
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pigulici: Yeah, I have a not so known Huawei, so no support, it is my first one (it have almost 2yrs), for the next one I will look to have more support on this side...
In that case you better not buy anything online through your phone. Not just privacy or security concern, but things you buy may be MORE EXPENSIVE.
There a reports of users that switching browser or deleting cookies give a cheaper price
http://www.johnnyjet.com/2013/02/why-you-should-delete-your-cookies-when-booking-travel/
http://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2010/aug/07/computer-cookies-booking-online
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/mcgee/2013/04/03/do-travel-deals-change-based-on-your-browsing-history/2021993/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-orbitz-sneaky-web-tracking-is-your-problem-too/#!

There is even one company that admit they use user data to give different hotel result
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882

On a PC there is still ways to stop the spying, with the recent smartphone OS, it is almost impossible to stop the spying shot of flashing the phone with a new OS.
Switch to win7. Better than 8, much better compatibility with older games, plus they will be supported up until 2020!
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Gnostic: Do you know if there is any good place to buy bare bone laptop? All the new laptop seems to come with window 10. Even I can reformat them to Linux + Window 7 I don't want to give Microsoft their cut of the sales
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Maighstir: Not bare-bone, but Dell have a few machines with Ubuntu. You might have to look in the business segment rather than consumer machines though.
I don't find Ubuntu on Dell business segment, but they did offer Window 7 Pro there.
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TodaysLoneWolf: You don't know me. Please don't assume that you knew my work schedule, my familial obligations, my few hours of free time. Your side comment was unnecessary.
I do know people mentality though ;) That's a regular excuse by adults, when they don't want to do something. That's also how I act myself, when I have no urge for something. ;)

In reality, this means, that would be postponed until infinity and rarely ever achieved. Nothing wrong with this! ;)
I have given same excuses in 2000, when I tried to learn Linux and literally slept over the crappy big dull book on the chapter "fstab" and mounting. ;) Goes without saying that that was waste of time, so I gave you the fastest method, should necessity or simply curiosity drill the hole through the obligations ;) I am like that myself (along with 99% adults). Cheers mate!