Radiance1979: BattleTech is the commander variant of Mechwarrior, same mechs, similar story. On launch the game felt a bit meager but over time, and of course with some DLC, the game turned out to be pretty amazing. With your knowledge from mechwarrior and if you appreciate the story and fighting i guess you could like this one too, especially if you are fond of x-com types of games too.

Simcity is for me like the king of city simulators ;) so no bad words there. Since 2013 i gathered around 700ish playing hours ( 100 hours a year ) and i still can return to the game and feel enjoyed though it is getting more troublesome to really dedicate time to it since i feel i explored the functions i liked. Maybe if i want to get really into designing and creating those dedicated cities for trade and export i have another drive for it to really continu with.
Multiplayer is still kicking btw, but single player is really amazing too, especially if you have no other ties to the genre but do enjoy simulators

I haven't progressed that far in NFSU payback but so far i do enjoy the premise. driving alone across the very large gameworld can be relaxing in its self and..... expect to be challenged when you progress further into the ranks of the number one driver. The game offers different disciplines from racing, off road to drag and drift + some special type of missions that all need different kinds of cars. Tuning is this game is done by cards that offer different boosts and all in all create a very diverse setting from which you can build your ultimate drive for every discipline. Just as simcity and battletech this one is very low demanding and can be enjoyed with the lowest tier of gaming gpu's out there ( lets take the 1050Ti as a baseline) it does however set my ryzen 5 2600 at 50% of its capacity so be warned gaming with this baby can turn quite hot

Control is atm for me the best game i played in 2020..... with dlss enabled on a lower resolution RTX is very enjoyable.. enough said i guess

dtgreene: I'm near the end of Phantasy Star 3 (no dungeon between now and the final dungeon). Only thing is, I think I should upgrade my armor. Mieu has her best armor (which I bought because of its special effect), but I think Wren might need an armor upgrade

Wren's current (chest) armor: None. Yes, I got this far in the game without ever getting *any* armor for Wren. (Next time I play through the early game, I am going to give him armor to at least reduce the burden on healing resources, as that tends to be the most stressful part of the early game.)

In other words, I am going to upgrade Wren's armor from none to the strongest in the game. Isn't it a bit ridiculous that I actually ended up in this situation?

(Wren has high HP and at least has a helmet, so he doesn't die *too* often, plus even if he does, I do have infinite revives thanks to that ForceVest I bought early on. Even if not, I have 4 characters who can cast a revive spell and have enough TP to keep using it; unfortunately, revive effects can fail in this game (though without side effects, unlike in Wizardry).)

MysterD: I really enjoyed the heck out of XCOM Chimera Squad, so BattleTech will probably be up my alley for that type of game.

I loved MW2: Mercs, back in the old 90's. One of my first PC games, along with DN3D and Quake 1. Loved the heck out of those 3 titles.

I did play a bit of NFS: Payback, but not much, TBH. Maybe an hour or two, if that. Racing itself felt good, but...wasn't thrilled w/ the silly card system. I prefer the earn money and tune the heck out of every single piece of your car gimmick of other NFS games like say NFS: MW 2005 and NFS: Carbon.

dtgreene: I'm near the end of Phantasy Star 3 (no dungeon between now and the final dungeon). Only thing is, I think I should upgrade my armor. Mieu has her best armor (which I bought because of its special effect), but I think Wren might need an armor upgrade

Wren's current (chest) armor: None. Yes, I got this far in the game without ever getting *any* armor for Wren. (Next time I play through the early game, I am going to give him armor to at least reduce the burden on healing resources, as that tends to be the most stressful part of the early game.)

In other words, I am going to upgrade Wren's armor from none to the strongest in the game. Isn't it a bit ridiculous that I actually ended up in this situation?

(Wren has high HP and at least has a helmet, so he doesn't die *too* often, plus even if he does, I do have infinite revives thanks to that ForceVest I bought early on. Even if not, I have 4 characters who can cast a revive spell and have enough TP to keep using it; unfortunately, revive effects can fail in this game (though without side effects, unlike in Wizardry).)

Radiance1979: give him some armor, please :)

Radiance1979: do be aware that chimera squad and battletech are 2 entirely different games..... but since you have battletech already i'd say go for it ;)

I can't understand how you manage with a controller in mechwarrior but maybe it is because i'm really not that of a hotshot with the controller.... especially those vtols and ranges above 600 ( yards meters? i'm not sure ) become increasingly difficult to execute in a already moving mech at top speed

give him some armor, please :)

dtgreene: I need to get money first. The armor I'm looking at costs 47,000 meseta, and I currently only have around 8,500.

I guess I need to fight enemies in the Skyhaven dungeon to get the money; it's a good thing I have other business to do in Skyhaven, as the walk through the non-dungeon portion of the game is annoyingly long. (Perhaps the biggest flaw with this game is the slow walking speed combined with how much the game makes you walk and backtrack; increasing the walking speed and adding Telepipes would greatly improve the game.)

Of course, there's also the question of whether I should get armor upgrades for Aron, Kara, and Laya. (Mieu already has a Royal Vest because that item has a good effect when used (Nasak 50).)

MysterD: I dunno how anyone would play with a controller in Mechwarrior either. Those always spoke to me as KB/mouse games, especially for the aiming & simulation factors.

I use controllers with racing games like NFS games, GTA-like games when driving (KB+Mouse on foot - I switch on the the fly b/t the two), and whatnot.

IIRC, I got Battletech and one of the DLC's from Humble in one of their Monthly or Choice bundles?!?!? Can't recall. I know I have it for sure, though.

Radiance1979: just give him something plz... are there no easy armorvests lying around giving ample protection?

oke i thought you said you had mechwarrior on the xbox, automatically assumed you where using a controller... my bad

MysterD: No, no. I'm on PC.

Haven't owned a gaming console since Playstation 1, other than the PlayStation Classic (re-release/remaster).

I'm playing Mechwarrior 5 Mercs on Microsoft's Xbox for PC Game Pass. That's still on the PC, on Windows 10.

Microsoft's branded a new app last you, even on PC, called Xbox for PC. They're kind of....bringing PC and consoles closer together, more or less; or trying to.

Xbox for PC is on PC; it is Microsoft's Windows 10 Store monthly subscription service w/ a curated list of PC games you can play (which constantly change and rotate), every month or so.

It's like $5 a month.

They have a Xbox Game Pass for their XBox Consoles also.

Xbox Console versions for their monthly pass are a bit more, I believe; and there is also an Xbox Ultimate Monthly Pass subscription is for users doing both PC (Xbox for PC) and Console via Microsoft's Xbox PC and XBox Console services.

Radiance1979: 5 euro's a month..... geez thats like a children's dream come true!
ill just grid and be carefull with my money ;)

dtgreene: I need to get money first. The armor I'm looking at costs 47,000 meseta, and I currently only have around 8,500.

I guess I need to fight enemies in the Skyhaven dungeon to get the money; it's a good thing I have other business to do in Skyhaven, as the walk through the non-dungeon portion of the game is annoyingly long. (Perhaps the biggest flaw with this game is the slow walking speed combined with how much the game makes you walk and backtrack; increasing the walking speed and adding Telepipes would greatly improve the game.)

Of course, there's also the question of whether I should get armor upgrades for Aron, Kara, and Laya. (Mieu already has a Royal Vest because that item has a good effect when used (Nasak 50).)

Radiance1979: just give him something plz... are there no easy armorvests lying around giving ample protection?

MysterD: First month ever for applying is $1 for Xbox for PC Game Pass.
Every month after is $5 per month.

I have no intention of leaving, if they keep the price at $5 oer month. I can easily get my $5 worth in a month; especially w/ recent and/or very new titles.

$5 to play a recent time, as it's expensive to own at the time - is a steal.

It's how I've played games like The Outer Worlds, Gears 5, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein II: TNC, MechWarrior 5 Mercs now, and whatnot really early...compared to my normal.

I usually wait for price-cuts, sales, bundles, and/or Complete Edtions for games when buying them. I often don't buy Day 1, for tons of reasons.

Radiance1979: The logic eludes me to be honest.... some of those big bucks names need their private sellers right? It is hard to see how much income a game would need tbh.... you have those first day of full price sales, and then tons of players who wait out the first discount before buying, still this must outweight the fact of millions of people using the gamepass for 5 dollars a month with all of these new games

just thinking all out loud of a dedicated gamepas future

MysterD: I'd guess it's all b/t Microsoft and the dev's & publishers on what joins Game Pass.

Given that it's Microsoft, they might be tossing $ at certain dev's/publishers to join Game Pass; especially since on Day 1 - like what Epic's been doing to gobble up timed exclusives.

All Microsoft's own games from companies they own (1st party games) - like Gears 5, The Outer Worlds - have showed-up on Day 1 on Game Pass.

Wouldn't surprise me if some companies that have really had their initial run of sales, way later they might try to join Microsoft's Game Pass to get more attention and/or revenue.