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Found my original post on the Steam Forums.

It turns out I looked up less than 20, and if you had psychic precognition you could get all the PC games for about £60 cheaper than console.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/0/487870763318735691/?ctp=5#c490123197949866117
Post edited June 04, 2016 by mechmouse
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snowkatt: if you mean backwards compatability
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tinyE: All I know is my current new PC still plays the games I bought 20 years ago. I can't think of a better deal than that.
pc gaming FTW!

and you can play those games at resolutions like they were developed at instead of run at a solid 60fps which is the absolute truest way to experience any game!
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mechmouse: It is also worth noting, examining data shown by steamspy that about 1/4 of games are bought on sale. The other 3/4 were bought at full price.
This leaves out a bunch of very important details that make the information pretty much useless.
-How many of those games were bought at or near launch?
-How many of those games were of the kind that's already really cheap? (the kind that's so cheap that you'll actually be able to make money from them by farming cards, of which many of those are in collections that make them viable to get)
-Does this include bundles or purchases made on other sites and how are those counted?
Post edited June 04, 2016 by AFnord
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mechmouse: It is also worth noting, examining data shown by steamspy that about 1/4 of games are bought on sale. The other 3/4 were bought at full price.
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AFnord: This leaves out a bunch of very important details that make the information pretty much useless.
-How many of those games were bought at or near launch?
-How many of those games were of the kind that's already really cheap? (the kind that's so cheap that you'll actually be able to make money from them by farming cards, of which many of those are in collections that make them viable to get)
-Does this include bundles or purchases made on other sites and how are those counted?
Unfortunately I got the data from a chart on SteamSpy that charted units sold, and sale price over a year for a given game (CIV5 I think). It showed, as one would expect, spike in units sold during sales. However it also showed sales for the remainder of the year, which was 3 times the amount sold during sales.

I have asked hime to make a more indepth data analysis based on units sold at full price vs sale price, but he never got back to me.
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tinyE: All I know is my current new PC still plays the games I bought 20 years ago. I can't think of a better deal than that.
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johnnygoging: pc gaming FTW!

and you can play those games at resolutions like they were developed at instead of run at a solid 60fps which is the absolute truest way to experience any game!
is that before or after you have to jump through ridicilous hoops to get games to run ?
cause midtown madness 2 refuses to run on windows 7
and killer is dead face plants on 3 different computers

discworld 1 2 and 3 wont even install on anything other then windows 9x

least said about the arkham knight disaster the best huh ?
and i can go on like that for a while

yeah " for the win" i think not
more like for how to bend over backwards to get the damn game to work
Post edited June 04, 2016 by snowkatt
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mechmouse: PC games are, on the whole, more expensive than consoles. Due to lack of 2nd hand market and heavy reliance on Digital distribution.
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Randalator: I disagree on the last part. Even second hand console games are usually a lot more expensive than PC games. PC games are cheaper as full price and they are cheaper in sales, precisely because of digital distribution. The ubiquity, immediacy and simplicity of digital distribution has resulted in most PC games selling for full retail price for less than a year and regular sales with massive discounts.

Also there is no need for a big second hand market anymore because sale prices are cheaper today than second hand prices used to be before digital distribution. As for sales, you had to wait many years to find a game, let alone a AAA game, in a bargain bin for a price that they today regularly reach after 2-3 years. And they're available for everyone at that price, not just the lucky fuck who managed to find the one single copy at the bottom of the bin.

If anything makes PC games more expensive than console games, it's the combined price for game and platform. If you don't buy many games, the higher price of a decent gaming PC will make the gaming experience overall more expensive.
I can not disagree with you more.

New PC games will get a couple of 10-20% sales in the first year, may be 20 days. However after a year the base price is normally still the original RRP. Maybe £5 less, shops that bought physical media will have 1/2'ed the price on a console game after a year.

As for a bargain bin, the internet is your bargain bin. I found new sealed physical PC disc for civ5 and others.

Digital distribution removes most of the factors that cause depreciation. Sales are used to pump up interest in a market that would otherwise stagnate. When I last looked it up Black Op's 2 was still at full release price even though it was 3 years old.
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mechmouse: and as for walled garden.

I shall save you from this Evil walled garden by creating this other Garden. No they're not walls over there, its an impenetrable force field. Much cooler than walls, look it pulsates with energy. And you see those laser turrets? Those blast you to nonexistence when your try to play two different games at the same time.
Pretty much what I was thinking after I read about the Steam Box the first time.

The one big benefit I can see it having over consoles is that its an actual PC so ppl should be able to just install <OS of choice> and play their gog games :D
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mechmouse: When I last looked it up Black Op's 2 was still at full release price even though it was 3 years old.
Could you have picked a less representative example though, COD games are notorious for not having dropped their prices like most other games do.
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mechmouse: When I last looked it up Black Op's 2 was still at full release price even though it was 3 years old.
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Pheace: Could you have picked a less representative example though, COD games are notorious for not having dropped their prices like most other games do.
did you look at my link further back?
Almost all of the games I looked at had a base price higher than the same game new on console.

Digital depreciation is an purposeful act dictated by the publisher rather than something that happens due to organic market forces.

With infinite stock and no warehousing cost, they can set the price and forget about it.
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snowkatt: probably not
its just an overpriced under powered pc in a dodgy case afterall
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tinyE: The Glove was a two dollar piece of foam rubber with some cheap plastic buttons on it. ;P
Yes, but! It had a movie about it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098663/
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johnnygoging: pc gaming FTW!

and you can play those games at resolutions like they were developed at instead of run at a solid 60fps which is the absolute truest way to experience any game!
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snowkatt: is that before or after you have to jump through ridicilous hoops to get games to run ?
cause midtown madness 2 refuses to run on windows 7
and killer is dead face plants on 3 different computers

discworld 1 2 and 3 wont even install on anything other then windows 9x

least said about the arkham knight disaster the best huh ?
and i can go on like that for a while

yeah " for the win" i think not
more like for how to bend over backwards to get the damn game to work
arkham knight wasn't the fault of the platform but of the companies interfering with it.

I ran discworld 1 and 2 on XP.

but yes, there are compatibility problems. still, there are hundreds of classics on the site you can run on your current machine, spanning a timeframe of something like 30 years. you can't say that for any major console.
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johnnygoging: pc gaming FTW!
And the only way you justify that is...

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johnnygoging: ...you can play those games at resolutions like they were developed at instead of run at a solid 60fps which is the absolute truest way to experience any game!
One, single, honest, question.
What about the resolution that drives every single one of you nuts?
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johnnygoging: pc gaming FTW!
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PookaMustard: And the only way you justify that is...

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johnnygoging: ...you can play those games at resolutions like they were developed at instead of run at a solid 60fps which is the absolute truest way to experience any game!
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PookaMustard: One, single, honest, question.
What about the resolution that drives every single one of you nuts?
you need to take a chill pill Valve's Steam Machines Have Run Out Of Steam thread
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snowkatt: is that before or after you have to jump through ridicilous hoops to get games to run ?
cause midtown madness 2 refuses to run on windows 7
and killer is dead face plants on 3 different computers

discworld 1 2 and 3 wont even install on anything other then windows 9x

least said about the arkham knight disaster the best huh ?
and i can go on like that for a while

yeah " for the win" i think not
more like for how to bend over backwards to get the damn game to work
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johnnygoging: arkham knight wasn't the fault of the platform but of the companies interfering with it.

I ran discworld 1 and 2 on XP.

but yes, there are compatibility problems. still, there are hundreds of classics on the site you can run on your current machine, spanning a timeframe of something like 30 years. you can't say that for any major console.
the wii would have words with you on that
unless the nes and c64 arent old enough

the ps3 might also wnat to hav words with that considering it runs ps1 games and the ps1 is 22 years old by now
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snowkatt: ... and the ps1 is 22 years old by now
Thanks, I feel old now!