I'm honestly not sure what's you're arguing against but it isn't anything I'm saying.

1) They don't need China to impose sanctions.
2) They don't need China's vote on the security council for anything.

Those are my points. That's it. Your original post implied the West need China to punish Russia for this, and they don't. That's all that I am saying. Your comments about China not supporting Western imperialism through economic and cultural persuasion aren't something I am disagreeing with or arguing against, I'm saying it's just not relevant.

1. The West don't need China to impose sanctions, but the sanctions won't be successful without China's support. (Actually, I think Brazil and India along with China, as parts of BRIC, will not support the sanctions either.)

Truth be told: the US and EU need Russia more than Russia needs the US and EU, both politically and economically. The US needs Russia on Syria (and a bunch of other international issues,) and the EU needs Russia on gas supplies.

China has wanted to get Russia to sell more of its gas to China instead of the EU, and Russia to buy more goods from China instead of the EU. So if Russia turns off the gas supply to the EU and starts exchange its gas for Chinese goods, China will be very happy -- it's really a win-win situation for China and Russia.

2. Neither the West nor Russia needed China's vote on the UNSC for anything -- because the West and Russia themselves have veto power, just as China does not need the West nor Russia to veto anything because China can use its own veto power. As it is now, Russia has already vetoed the West's UN resolution on Crimea. Of course China already knew Russia was going to veto, so why bother? Strategically and politically, it's smarter to just not take an open stance.

I'd say it's more significance that China did not vote YES with the West on the resolution than NO to veto it (because a China's veto vote would mostly be useless, but a yes vote from China would have carried an important message: that China supports the West and opposes Russia in Crimea.)

Well that's not the picture being painted by any Western media. Yes the EU buys about 30% of its gas from Russia, but everything I have read says they could make that up by buying from the US instead, or seeking alternatives. And besides, no one is saying natural gas has to be the source of the sanctions. In contrast everything I am reading says Russia's economy is extremely fragile, and that serious sanctions will really hurt them.

If you have some evidence to the contrary that isn't from Russian state media I'll be happy to read it.

Though I still don't see how we need China's approval either way.

If you want a properly formulated response you'll have to give me a link in english to that change. Google just gives a bunch of russian language links, and one english one on copyright enforcement of all things, which seems unlikely to be relevant. The full text site I found only has 360 clauses, not 433.

To address the most likely scenario though charges for things like preaching separatism/ sedition cannot be brought against someone in another country, so while Ukraine could charge individuals for such crimes (and has done for people like the Crimean assembly PM and speaker) Russia would have to wait until Crimea is incorporated into the federation for their laws to apply. While most countries do have sedition or similar laws on the books they only apply to themselves, I cannot be seditious about Russia or the US because I'm a citizen of neither place and any comments I make are outside their jurisdiction.

Eu does not need Russia more than Russia needs Eu. Russian economy can only survive while supplying west with gas. Without it all the Putin's power is gone and we have riots on the streets and so on. This is why they are trying to block alternative routes and sources. Without Russian supply its still possible to get gas. It will be a bit higher price but EU can manage it. Russia on the other hand without money coming from supplying gas is in pretty bad situation.

USSR also depended on gas and oil export. And its economy came crumbling when prices hit the low. But I don't really give a damn about our eastern neighbour economy, be it in a good or bad shape. Either way, my country is *ucked.

Partial mobilisation of Ukrainian army now in effect by the decrey of the Ukrainian parliament it seems they really expect Russia to invade now.

No, its quite ok answer, i just saw what you like to use various legal data numbers and stuff, so got the question. So, in this case,unlike say, murder, the actions they done in one country, are not penalized by law of other country, even if the actions themselves count as crime in both? I got it right?

433-ФЗ its a Federal Law, not the article of Criminal codex, it apply changes to it.

There is just one thing about the referendum that came out now. In Sevastopol there are officialy 385,462 people registered as voters. People voting there by data from referendum 474,137. Where did the additional voters come from. 123% voters voting WTF!

That really shows that this is just a farce.

I wonder whether sanctions if enacted will concern only specific things or be more general. If they are general (can not trade without approval) then wouldn't gog and steam and other gaming sites be closed off for customers from Russia?

Sanctions have already been enacted by EU about an hour ago and only against 21 persons from Russia and Ukraine. Assets have been frozen and visas frozen. Thats all no real sanctions for now.

it is farce. they are not even pretending because people in Crimea dont care. Im not talking about pro-ukrainians. Russians who wants Crimea to join Russia don't care about lies/deception just because this time politicians manipulation are for what they desire.
it's really sad.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia demanded/proposed (whatever you like) to hold a referendum about federalisation, second official language and military neutrality. Now these pricks demand what and how to do in this country. Great. Maybe they want to prepare the new constitution for Ukraine themselves, move in their army and overlook the referendum. *sigh* Giving away nuclear warheads in 90s was a mistake...

Now its way more important what your moron Avakov is trying to collect the "illegal firearms" from the people. Hope he's simply incompetent and not worse.

He is indeed incompetent. It should've been done 3 weeks ago.
Though tbh, illegal firearms were always an issue. Not just these months. It's just that now this issue is more apparent.