I think the example is linked to how ''bad'' Leisure suit larry'' was described as back in the day as some semi-hard porn game.. for the era ..atleast by specific folks .. I don't see that then again the myth still exists that its rather rounchy even for todays standards(which it is not ) .. when in fact worse games obscure ones but worse ones existed on Atari consoles back in the day.. yes Atari had official licensed to make for their system porn games .. And they was and still are rather odd and extreme if you actually think about what it'd be like with modern day graphics

Steam's Family View exists so < 18 year old children aren't exposed to this stuff without your PIN. The parental tools are all right there. It's up to parents to actually enforce these things with their kids when they give them consent to Steam, especially if it's an important value to them. if their kids are lying about their age to access the material, the burden of responsibility should be on the parents rather than on Steam.

Selling all ages version is a good balance for Steam and GOG to sell this material and if adults want that hardcore action, they can download a patch (with or without a nominal fee barrier). And if a teenager is technically literate enough to watch these scenes in a game despite the numerous amounts of more accessible porn sites out there, maybe they are mature enough to view it.

Guess I'm to old for that. I'm all for "live and let live", and "An it harm none do what ye will"...

Your assumption that corporate curation teams will act to your taste (and only to your taste) is dumb. Big publishers are notorious for their pants on head retarded and arbitrary policies about what can be sold and what can stay on their walled garden stores and I'd much rather have a freeer store and deal with seeing some porn and asset flips than have a nanny curating what I even get to see, let alone buy.

Have you not heard of Sony's ridiculous censorship policies or Apple cashing in on a tragedy for PR by removing games with the CSA flag from their app store? That's the kind of behavior you and most people here seem to be asking for.

It comes down to which method offers more freedom of expression and that is definitely the uncrated method. As game development gets easier and the barrier to entry gets lower as engines become easier to use, there will only be an increase in games being released; just like how cameras on mobile phones increased the accessibility to photography and video. Asking sites to keep up with this flood is never going to result in any other answer than arbitrary policies and censorship.

This I agree with 100 percent

No it is not dumb, dumb is expecting to find good games when crappy products flood the shelves
I'm fine with how gog curates the games so far, yep it is not perfect but nothing is perfect. It is not assumption, you just find the corporation which curates to your liking.
For example, if I wanted to play some arcades/jrpg style games, I would go buy a Sony system and buy from their store. It is this easy.
If you want these low effort porn games there are stores for them and you should go and buy them there.

I hate those "freeer" stores.
Why are you even here, why not buy on itch.io? Cause according to you freeer is better....

So we ask for political censoring because we expect the store to offer quality and not asset flip made within days games?
How the hell one comes from the other? :O

They are free to express themselves with their crappy products on the stores made for them.
The only barrier getting lower is the quality of the average games if every one of these easy to make games are let in

I think game development didn't get easier, it is just some parts of it got better tools.
That should result in more time spend on developing other parts of the games, not that oh now we can make 10 times as many games as before cool lets cash in guys, quantity over quality mindset, and you talk about big corps de.

If they censor out the bad games, I'm all in support for that as that's what I want.

Lol on the Arcade/RPG/JRPG thing on Sony they censor the hell out of those anymore.. If you want Arcade tRPG and JRPG's its now Nintendo where one wants to go for the best versions and best arcade games and RPGs/JRPG's if you honestly want the least censored and best versions of such games in the console sphere.. between those two as I am unsure about Microsoft track record with such games but ya Sony used to be the none censor king compared to Nintendo .. now its the reverse more or less in this day and age

What if no corporation curates to your liking? And as was posted in this thread earlier, corporations don't curate to people's likings but follow the money. What if there's a scenario where there's more money in rejecting games from the store? Would you be OK then? The whole argument boils down to ''give someone else control and everything will be fine''. ''Fine'' is different for every person and even among people who don't want the so called trash on 'their' store, there will be differences of opinion.

Do you remember that a game was removed from GOG due to political pressure? Its their decision either way and I don't fault GOG for it but to want a system where there is room for such agendas to be advanced is self defeating.

I'll give you an example : https://store.steampowered.com/app/652410/Brigand_Oaxaca/ That game looks like a low effort asset flip and should be purged according to many. But it is in fact a Mexican made STALKER-like game with a cult following (not joking). Would a corporate curation team allow this on to a store? Should they? Itch doesn't have the games I want so I don't shop there. But I don't shop based on charity so even if it did , I doubt I'll buy there.

When you give someone they keys, don't be surprised if they lock you out.

And finally, do you know how to use steam filters? Yes or no?

Hopefully following money they will make their store to my liking, if not ill just search for another store.
So you tell me the games you want to buy are not available anywhere is a possibility? I hardly believe that.
Some games can have their own site as the only store they are available and they are doing fine like Escape from Tharkov and many mmo-s.

Yep, fine is different for everyone, that's why there are so many stores, or everybody would just use one store. Just accept that for some of us a steamlike let in everything store is not fine.
I don't want to go thru all the crappy ones to find a few games im interested in, in the new releases list. It is like if we had ten times as many forum games as now , good luck finding the interesting topics then, I bet many users would leave instantly.

Well political pressure even happens on your let in everything stores. I cant see that banned title on steam or itch.io either , why is that?
So opening the floodgates would still keep these "banned" games out.

Yeah that Brigand Oaxaca looks garbage I wouldn't let that in.

What keys? The store is not mine, they are free to do what they want with it. Most successful shops will have an ordered and tidy storeplace, not a warehouse with everything in it. Oh you only have to use the search item in the database to know to which shelf you have to go to find what exactly? You don't know yet as you are just looking at possible game options. Hoping you find some to your liking.

Steam filters are harder to use than google out the online store which sells the cheap anime adult games you want to buy. See it is not that hard to find it.

A store is not a search engine. To give an analogy, if you go to a supermarket to buy sliced bread and complain that you have to see unsliced bread in the shelf nearby, people would rightly think you're crazy. That's the same thing you're doing here. Even if you are going to a warehouse, you go with a list or an idea of what you want to get and don't just wander the aisles. If you want to see only stuff you like in someone else's store, its not on them to make it like that for you. Its your own damn duty to learn to use the fucking filters.

I didn't know which other platforms Devotion was removed from but the point stands. Once you give the power (of curation) to someone, don't be surprised when its misused. That's what I was talking about in reference to giving keys and getting locked out.

That's the point, Brigand Oxaca has a following and deserves a place on the store, but many people won't let it in because it's not to their taste. If you want to make a store that sells games that homogenously cater to your taste only, then you need your own store.

Yes but steam filters allow puritans to hide the games they're scared of and serves the larger interest of even small developers having access to the worlds largest games DD platform. Fair trade if you ask me.

Your analogy is false
It would be right if they would offer 90% rotten/moldy product, and 10% normal human consumable products.

Most market has quality standards and they won't accept substandard food, guess why? Nobody would buy there if 90% of the products were unacceptably low quality. I bet some crazies would still buy em cause they like the taste or could get high from the alcohol in it.

" A store is not a search engine. " but steam is... right...

my damn duty? :D omg , you are becoming very egoistic here
why isnt it your damn duty to shop these games from where they belong?
This is even more relevant as it is you who wants to change gog store not me

" If you want to see only stuff you like in someone else's store, its not on them to make it like that for you"
ah the 100% irony right there
it is you who wants to change gog store to your liking

" Devotion was removed from but the point stands" how? Wasn't your argument if we let "everyhing" in somehow political censorship would cease? Clearly that's not how things work.
Even amazon store bans things politically while they sell nearly everything.

Brigand Oxaca ? deserves why? cause you like that game?

"Yes but steam filters allow puritans to hide the games they're scared of "
Ah nice getting sneaky personal attacks in, could you refrain from there? They only come down as very childish.
now puritan means no lame anime adult games? when did this change happen?
and when not liking something is equal to be scared?

I don't care for indie devs who fail to produce quality products. Btw many indie games are available here on gog.
Hmm how is that possible?:O
And as others mentioned, it makes harder for the talented and hard working indie devs to get recognized if they have to shine throu the millions of crappy products.

Except 90% of steam isn't the same as moldy bread. There are unknown indies and whatever else in there and you assume that everything is like that because you can't except the fact that other people have different tastes than you. That analogy is perfect; you're crying over unsliced bread because you prefer sliced.

They don't belong on steam because you say they don't? Who are you to dictate what belongs where? I said it was GOG's choice to not sell devotion and that I respect it, but don't support the idea behind it; which is pressure from outside forces.

Except that letting everything in has let other games come out on steam without drama (because they were horrible troll games but nonetheless) and steam removing a game is an exception and not the rule for both steam and the community.

As I told you before, it has an audience and a following. But besides that, what are the ideal grounds for a game to be accepted then? Because you like it?

I was referring to people who ''don't like'' those games, not you. What else are people who irrationally hate risque games called? Steam has never made any allusions to it ever not being a store for adults. There is no sense in enforcing arbitrary standards when they've said ''everything except illegal or trolling'' games.

Except games don't rely on steam or any store for advertising. Quality is a matter of opinion and if you'd rather rely on someone else's opinion on what games you should see, you'd should buy only from the Epic Store.

a store has search engines. they are the staff

My 2c is that I value the fact that GOG has certain standards of quality (even though that is obviously somewhat subjective). I don't have a problem with adult content in games, but if these smutty anime games are not 'good' games, then imo they shouldn't be here. Not because they are smutty, but because they just aren't good games. Somehow, I suspect most people who buy them are not buying them because they want a good game.

It's not about censorship, it's about wanting to maintain a standard of quality.

smutty is a redundant word that is crass and has negative connotations with a lot of baggage from the 1950s. it's so weird people are using it only because op used it.