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So a new hashtag has risen called #takebacktech which wants to apparently take back ''tech'' that was somehow lost from women? Anyhoo; it in a gist : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5b0SqUYAAUzPD.jpg
So in addition to believing the city of San Fransisco decided to take a huge diversity dump on gaming in 2014 so that gaming which was lacking diversity before that and consisted only of straight white guys; we have to believe that the evil males stole tech from women in the late 1800s and now this is a brave beautiful strong smart funny intelligent movement is gonna to take it back?
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Shadowstalker16: So a new hashtag has risen called #takebacktech which wants to apparently take back ''tech'' that was somehow lost from women? Anyhoo; it in a gist : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5b0SqUYAAUzPD.jpg
So in addition to believing the city of San Fransisco decided to take a huge diversity dump on gaming in 2014 so that gaming which was lacking diversity before that and consisted only of straight white guys; we have to believe that the evil males stole tech from women in the late 1800s and now this is a brave beautiful strong smart funny intelligent movement is gonna to take it back?
Well, as someone mentioned earlier, there is a difference between "women in tech" and women making tech. My sister is a robotics engineer and she does not need any of those stupid movements to get the work done. At her job she is not a woman but a human being working. Her reproductive organs are not relevant to what she does.
Post edited October 11, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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Shadowstalker16: So a new hashtag has risen called #takebacktech which wants to apparently take back ''tech'' that was somehow lost from women? Anyhoo; it in a gist : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5b0SqUYAAUzPD.jpg
So in addition to believing the city of San Fransisco decided to take a huge diversity dump on gaming in 2014 so that gaming which was lacking diversity before that and consisted only of straight white guys; we have to believe that the evil males stole tech from women in the late 1800s and now this is a brave beautiful strong smart funny intelligent movement is gonna to take it back?
Tech is still mostly men, but men are being discouraged from joining the field.

It seems a tad early to need this hashtag. There's got to be a more appropriate hashtag to choose.
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Shadowstalker16: So a new hashtag has risen called #takebacktech which wants to apparently take back ''tech'' that was somehow lost from women? Anyhoo; it in a gist : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5b0SqUYAAUzPD.jpg
So in addition to believing the city of San Fransisco decided to take a huge diversity dump on gaming in 2014 so that gaming which was lacking diversity before that and consisted only of straight white guys; we have to believe that the evil males stole tech from women in the late 1800s and now this is a brave beautiful strong smart funny intelligent movement is gonna to take it back?
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LeonardoCornejo: Well, as someone mentioned earlier, there is a difference between "women in tech" and women making tech. My sister is a robotics engineer and she does not need any of those stupid movements to get the work done. At her job she is not a woman but a human being working. Her reproductive organs are not relevant to what she does.
Then she's must have missed the memo. She's being oppressed and discouraged by all the men around her and she needs protection otherwise she'll be unable to get her work done because of all the sexism.
Post edited October 11, 2015 by hedwards
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Shadowstalker16: So a new hashtag has risen called #takebacktech which wants to apparently take back ''tech'' that was somehow lost from women? Anyhoo; it in a gist : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5b0SqUYAAUzPD.jpg
So in addition to believing the city of San Fransisco decided to take a huge diversity dump on gaming in 2014 so that gaming which was lacking diversity before that and consisted only of straight white guys; we have to believe that the evil males stole tech from women in the late 1800s and now this is a brave beautiful strong smart funny intelligent movement is gonna to take it back?
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hedwards: Tech is still mostly men, but men are being discouraged from joining the field.

It seems a tad early to need this hashtag. There's got to be a more appropriate hashtag to choose.
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LeonardoCornejo: Well, as someone mentioned earlier, there is a difference between "women in tech" and women making tech. My sister is a robotics engineer and she does not need any of those stupid movements to get the work done. At her job she is not a woman but a human being working. Her reproductive organs are not relevant to what she does.
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hedwards: Then she's must have missed the memo. She's being oppressed and discouraged by all the men around her and she needs protection otherwise she'll be unable to get her work done because of all the sexism.
Funny, men want her in. Maybe they were the ones who missed the memo. Even one of her co workers called her "super cool" because her management skills saved his sorry ass (She is a robotics engineer but is working at tech support for Huawei, a chinese telecommunications company), I bet all the men working in STEM fields in my country missed the memo abaout oppressing womyn. The patriarchy is doing a shit job at oppressing womyn latelly. Maybe they should listen to the feminist advice of infantilizing women. That is much more oppressive than anything the patriarchy does.

(Pictures related, one is a joke in spanish the picture says "Long live the patriarchy" in case you don't understand the Jose language)
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hedwards: Tech is still mostly men, but men are being discouraged from joining the field.

It seems a tad early to need this hashtag. There's got to be a more appropriate hashtag to choose.

Then she's must have missed the memo. She's being oppressed and discouraged by all the men around her and she needs protection otherwise she'll be unable to get her work done because of all the sexism.
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LeonardoCornejo: Funny, men want her in. Maybe they were the ones who missed the memo. Even one of her co workers called her "super cool" because her management skills saved his sorry ass (She is a robotics engineer but is working at tech support for Huawei, a chinese telecommunications company), I bet all the men working in STEM fields in my country missed the memo abaout oppressing womyn. The patriarchy is doing a shit job at oppressing womyn latelly. Maybe they should listen to the feminist advice of infantilizing women. That is much more oppressive than anything the patriarchy does.

(Pictures related, one is a joke in spanish the picture says "Long live the patriarchy" in case you don't understand the Jose language)
Another instance of someone not doing their job (getting that darn memo out)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnQYNEC1ziM
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/653947480267100160
"Before you die, you see the ring..."
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Post edited October 14, 2015 by tremere110
Regarding the notion about "female video game characters that are just men with tits":
http://oglaf.com/glamazon-way/
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Tried to post on GamerGhazi. Got banned within 10 minutes with the message ''gg please go'' and was muted for 72 hours from talking with mods to appeal my ban for appealing to mods to lift my ban. In the entirety of my Ghazelle career, I tried to ask for proof of a harassment claim and the only guy who didn't directly dodge said he / she wasn't going to link the proof that GG e-celebs retweeted doxxes because it contains sensitive info. So no proof and a few posts and I was banned and muted from posting and appealing to have my ban lifted.

Needless to say, but saying it anyway; these are the people who want to have discussions on diversity and feamle portrayal. Nice joke while it lasted.
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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WBGhiro: https://archive.is/sVG61

UN admits they really fucked up on the cyberviolence report
Oh god...

"Really, the big problem was footnoting which was not up to standard and we very much regret that," said Parkes. "That is being revised very thoroughly. We are adamant that we will have these [footnotes] all corrected."


For the 99% that only read the title of the report and look no further than the abstract, that is true. The problem is the 1% that have the mental capacity to read a report and derive their own conclusions based on the evidence presented, whether said conclusions agree with the author or not. "Footnoting" is the fundamental key to academic articles, without proper references you have no backing to your claims; how can anyone be so indifferent to the scientific method and peer review?


"It is just to raise awareness," she said. "We just wanted to stimulate debate and say this is an area of increasing concern and it needs to be discussed."

Discussion of a problem without veritable proof said problem exists causes more problems. In truth, sociology is a very slow moving field and while people are pushing sensationalist pieces left and right, these studies also retain the fault of multiple testing. Unlike the more mature studies that retain places in textbooks, the recent ones often start with a hypothesis of what is intended to be proven (heresy!)

Multiple testing points out that if 10 people do different tests with p=0.05 with the intent to prove a hypothesis, that there is a 40% (1 - (1 - p)^10) chance of getting "significant" results just due to random chance. Statistics are often misused to indicate a correlation instead of "a variable of interest." This is why peer review is so important, not only to confirm the results aren't pure chance, but also to verify that the provided conclusion is the only rational conclusion one can make from the given data, and that other variables aren't affecting the outcome.

We can point to statistics saying women are less likely to be arrested than men. The only thing this means is women are less likely to be arrested than men, whether it is due to women committing less crimes, women not getting caught for their crimes, officers being more willing to dismiss said crimes, or the crimes not being of significance to make an arrest over... the statistic fails to provide enough information to draw a meaningful conclusion.



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I am quite tired of these type publications being given credibility. Everyone seems to be using them now-a-days and claiming victim to something or another. I remember Al Gore used the argument that because no one was brave enough to speak up against climate change (within the academic community), climate change is real. Recognizing that science is slow moving and few people are willing to stake their credibility without being certain the claims are false (and sometimes, even then) especially now that we're pushing politics here, why would academia risk telling the truth?
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Shadowstalker16: Tried to post on GamerGhazi. Got banned within 10 minutes with the message ''gg please go'' and was muted for 72 hours from talking with mods to appeal my ban for appealing to mods to lift my ban. In the entirety of my Ghazelle career, I tried to ask for proof of a harassment claim and the only guy who didn't directly dodge said he / she wasn't going to link the proof that GG e-celebs retweeted doxxes because it contains sensitive info. So no proof and a few posts and I was banned and muted from posting and appealing to have my ban lifted.

Needless to say, but saying it anyway; these are the people who want to have discussions on diversity and feamle portrayal. Nice joke while it lasted.
you had the sheer gall to invade a "safe space" expected a rational debate & evidence? ;P as far as I can tell GamerGhazi is there just to make AGG's feel good about being AGG's

To me this cultural war is a cyber version of WW1's trench warfare.
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Oh, the jurnivlaitic ethiazzz refrain.


Ok then.

Yea, im not that stupid, you misogynistic pieces of shit.
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itchy01ca01: Oh, the jurnivlaitic ethiazzz refrain.

Ok then.

Yea, im not that stupid, you misogynistic pieces of shit.
my, how CV of you to label us all so blindly

this trench warfare does seem to be between those who favor reason, rationality & evidence Versus those who favor feels
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itchy01ca01: Oh, the jurnivlaitic ethiazzz refrain.

Ok then.

Yea, im not that stupid, you misogynistic pieces of shit.
I am not downrepping you because I honestly assume you are joking. But if you are dead serious then let me warn you. You are less intelligent than whatever you believe. In fact, if this was not a joke or pure bait, you are so unintelligent even a child with Down's syndrome or other form of severe retardation would prove to be more intelligent and certainly more kind hearted than you.
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itchy01ca01: Oh, the jurnivlaitic ethiazzz refrain.

Ok then.

Yea, im not that stupid, you misogynistic pieces of shit.
AKA this thread ain't going how I want it to so I have a sudden concern for being on topic to the skin of the teeth of the words ''on topic''. Obviously what is an is not gamergate ''news'' is decided by someone who doesn't post it in it nor contributes in any way. And for people who are so scared of this thread; why do they care so much about exploring tangents when little to no debate / discussion is going on and even then it almost never with their participation?