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Shadowstalker16: Look what's trending : http://imgur.com/GJnqoti
"UN wants to Censor the Internet to save Femenist's feelings."

Clearly Femenist have not read on things like this:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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Shadowstalker16: Look what's trending : http://imgur.com/GJnqoti
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Elmofongo: "UN wants to Censor the Internet to save Femenist's feelings."

Clearly Femenist have not read on things like this:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
''Don't worry, I don't disapprove of it but the patriarchy approves of it and that's a wee bit problematic.''
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Shadowstalker16: Use the GG approved adblock / siteblock I suppose.

BaedJapan still stands. There is hope yet for humanity! I legitimately find myself wondering how Japan is so oblivious to all this. Offendatrons be like ''That is sexist'' and Japan be like '' ''.
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Rusty_Gunn: maybe because is sexist (music video)

full video here
Of course it is, they don't call it the "penal" code for nothing.
Anyone wondering about the UN report : https://archive.is/5Q1un
Unfortunately; https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3mg9zn/went_through_all_120_citations_in_the_un_cyber/ especially https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/citation-games-by-the-united-nations-cyberviolence-e8bb1336c8d1
So they more or less took studies from pre 2005 and plagarized sources and many other stuff. Here's a choice quote from the Mary $sue about it : ''The UN report includes a wealth of statistics about online abuse and harassment. If you’re looking for a source to use in order to debate a nay-sayer claiming that “everyone” receives an equal amount of harassment online and/or that women and girls are just “overreacting,” this research paper will include the statistics you need to make your case. The report also makes the valuable point that cyber abuse is hardly a “first world problem,” given that internet access and mobile access have become increasingly available worldwide. The internet is an undeniable part of people’s careers and lives across the world. Guaranteeing safety and privacy to users should be paramount, but this is a problem that requires many inter-locking solutions, which the report acknowledges.''
Utter BS that is beyond stupidity. Journalism 101 today.
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Shadowstalker16: Anyone wondering about the UN report : https://archive.is/5Q1un
Unfortunately; https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3mg9zn/went_through_all_120_citations_in_the_un_cyber/ especially https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/citation-games-by-the-united-nations-cyberviolence-e8bb1336c8d1
So they more or less took studies from pre 2005 and plagarized sources and many other stuff. Here's a choice quote from the Mary $sue about it : ''The UN report includes a wealth of statistics about online abuse and harassment. If you’re looking for a source to use in order to debate a nay-sayer claiming that “everyone” receives an equal amount of harassment online and/or that women and girls are just “overreacting,” this research paper will include the statistics you need to make your case. The report also makes the valuable point that cyber abuse is hardly a “first world problem,” given that internet access and mobile access have become increasingly available worldwide. The internet is an undeniable part of people’s careers and lives across the world. Guaranteeing safety and privacy to users should be paramount, but this is a problem that requires many inter-locking solutions, which the report acknowledges.''
Utter BS that is beyond stupidity. Journalism 101 today.
"Survivor of cyber violence." There's really not a lot of words in my head that properly explains the nuclear powered WTF that emerges from within.

It takes a giant pair of testudos to say that with a straight face. We're dealing with Hollywood level acting here. Mucho poker face.
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Emob78: "Survivor of cyber violence." There's really not a lot of words in my head that properly explains the nuclear powered WTF that emerges from within.

It takes a giant pair of testudos to say that with a straight face. We're dealing with Hollywood level acting here. Mucho poker face.
But what about "Muh Soggy Knees"?
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Shadowstalker16: 13 is just in the national laws; and all the states are actually 16+ I hear.
Really? Well statal laws are a thing, Booyah for state independence then!
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Shadowstalker16: Utter BS that is beyond stupidity. Journalism 101 today.
Or if you wanna have a field day, go look at the Guardian and one of it's journalist making an ARTICLE based on her fears of comtempt towards her DAUGHTER'S POO. Literal descriptions aren't enough to describe what that disgrace even was.
Post edited September 26, 2015 by GioVio123
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Shadowstalker16: Look what's trending : http://imgur.com/GJnqoti
Don't worry: "Boobs are fine".
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ryannaughton1138: ...Yeah, I'm calling BS on this. No article link, not really buying it.
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227: http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Footnote 118 references this gem from 15 years ago: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/New_violence.html

It's at the bottom. It also uses the then-fashionable descriptor of Dungeons and Dragons as "satanic." I can't believe we're dealing with this kind of crap being taken seriously again.
It is just one citation, and while whoever wrote this obviously should have known better, it doesn't automatically disprove the overall point of the report which is all about online threats and harassment.

Plus the UN is ultimately in the words of Martin Starr, "a fundamentally symbolic organization founded on the principles of high-minded rhetoric and empty gestures. " They aren't coming to take video games away, and even if they did they'd find a way to screw it up.

I'm honestly shocked that mods haven't put the kibosh on this thread, because this is just conspiracy theory fear-mongering of the highest order, and it makes me ashamed to be a gamer.
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GioVio123: There are 3 individuals, who would be interested not only in this topic, but turned this banshees to shreds.

I need to convert myself into a evangelist for a sec, might be of help to look presentable than just a mass of fur.

He had quite the field day for that video, but the mention ON Japan needs clarification, it has one of the craziest and sleaziest attitudes in the sex market YOU COULD EVER SEE, of course it has no opinion about it! they have the Yakuza to thank for that!

Or are MMO's with mildly attractive gear NOT a red flag? or the story of the wife of the fisherman erotic lovestory? or the consensus for 13 olds to have consent? or just look at anime or hentai, I mean, there is a cause for that!
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Shadowstalker16: 13 is just in the national laws; and all the states are actually 16+ I hear.
I investigated qute a bit about that (Because in my country the AoC varies from state to stae, but in my state is 12) and I found out that depends from prefectures. But in Tokyo for example it is 13 because they follow the federal law. Thet thing is, there are restrictions, for example it requres parental approval, etc.

Also, I don't know who would be against the sexual attitude of Japan. Strangely, Japan is one of the coutries with less sexual abuse cases, specially including children. Some Japanese artists atribute that to the fact that drawn porn and sex dolls are an anything goes market, so most people buy that stuff in stead of having accumulated sexual tensions.

Also Japan has a neutral stance toward different sexual orientations. The only period whe Japan showed actual aversion toward homosexuals was during the Meiji period when they adopted many Western tradiions.

The thing is, Japan might not be strict on the mattters of sex and sexuality, but until now that has proven to be actually benefical to them.
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Shadowstalker16: Anyone wondering about the UN report : https://archive.is/5Q1un
Unfortunately; https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3mg9zn/went_through_all_120_citations_in_the_un_cyber/ especially https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/citation-games-by-the-united-nations-cyberviolence-e8bb1336c8d1
So they more or less took studies from pre 2005 and plagarized sources and many other stuff. Here's a choice quote from the Mary $sue about it : ''The UN report includes a wealth of statistics about online abuse and harassment. If you’re looking for a source to use in order to debate a nay-sayer claiming that “everyone” receives an equal amount of harassment online and/or that women and girls are just “overreacting,” this research paper will include the statistics you need to make your case. The report also makes the valuable point that cyber abuse is hardly a “first world problem,” given that internet access and mobile access have become increasingly available worldwide. The internet is an undeniable part of people’s careers and lives across the world. Guaranteeing safety and privacy to users should be paramount, but this is a problem that requires many inter-locking solutions, which the report acknowledges.''
Utter BS that is beyond stupidity. Journalism 101 today.
I was talking with a coworker (female by the way) about this, and I told her that it all seemed fishy. I mean, of course, we focus on the whole thing about feminism and video games. But looking at the big picture, under the claim of protecting women and girls from cyber violence governments could even censor criticism toward them or political figures. And that is what I told her, they want to use that as an excuse to censor the internet. She said that she found the claims of the UN absurd. First of all, equating cyber bullying with physical violence is absurd. And second, there is no gender for victims of "cyber violence" as she pointed, people in general are rude on the internet, regardless of gender. But you can just press the ignore button and move on.
Post edited September 27, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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Shadowstalker16: 13 is just in the national laws; and all the states are actually 16+ I hear.
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LeonardoCornejo: I investigated qute a bit about that (Because in my country the AoC varies from state to stae, but in my state is 12) and I found out that depends from prefectures. But in Tokyo for example it is 13 because they follow the federal law. Thet thing is, there are restrictions, for example it requres parental approval, etc.

Also, I don't know who would be against the sexual attitude of Japan. Strangely, Japan is one of the coutries with less sexual abuse cases, specially including children. Some Japanese artists atribute that to the fact that drawn porn and sex dolls are an anything goes market, so most people buy that stuff in stead of having accumulated sexual tensions.

Also Japan has a neutral stance toward different sexual orientations. The only period whe Japan showed actual aversion toward homosexuals was during the Meiji period when they adopted many Western tradiions.

The thing is, Japan might not be strict on the mattters of sex and sexuality, but until now that has proven to be actually benefical to them.
It's difficult attributing things like that to any particular source. I suspect that part of the reason that sexual abuse is lower is because there's less opportunity than there is in a country like America. More people living closer together makes it harder to hide things and children have a lot less freetime out of class as well. I'd be quicker to point to those things than sex dolls. I doubt there's a particularly meaningful correlation between their use or disuse and sexual abuse of minors.

If anything, they'd just ingrain the urges more.
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LeonardoCornejo: I investigated qute a bit about that (Because in my country the AoC varies from state to stae, but in my state is 12) and I found out that depends from prefectures. But in Tokyo for example it is 13 because they follow the federal law. Thet thing is, there are restrictions, for example it requres parental approval, etc.

Also, I don't know who would be against the sexual attitude of Japan. Strangely, Japan is one of the coutries with less sexual abuse cases, specially including children. Some Japanese artists atribute that to the fact that drawn porn and sex dolls are an anything goes market, so most people buy that stuff in stead of having accumulated sexual tensions.

Also Japan has a neutral stance toward different sexual orientations. The only period whe Japan showed actual aversion toward homosexuals was during the Meiji period when they adopted many Western tradiions.

The thing is, Japan might not be strict on the mattters of sex and sexuality, but until now that has proven to be actually benefical to them.
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hedwards: It's difficult attributing things like that to any particular source. I suspect that part of the reason that sexual abuse is lower is because there's less opportunity than there is in a country like America. More people living closer together makes it harder to hide things and children have a lot less freetime out of class as well. I'd be quicker to point to those things than sex dolls. I doubt there's a particularly meaningful correlation between their use or disuse and sexual abuse of minors.

If anything, they'd just ingrain the urges more.
That is still in debate, there are many factors. But as long as no one gets hurt I don't care whatever people fo with their lives in private.
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ryannaughton1138: I'm honestly shocked that mods haven't put the kibosh on this thread, because this is just conspiracy theory fear-mongering of the highest order, and it makes me ashamed to be a gamer.
1. Call me crazy, but I don't think that would be a good way for GOG to say "Your freedom of speech isn't in danger of being censored out".

2. why does the fact that people are fighting for the continued existence of free expression make you "ashamed to be a gamer"?
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227: http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Footnote 118 references this gem from 15 years ago: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/New_violence.html

It's at the bottom. It also uses the then-fashionable descriptor of Dungeons and Dragons as "satanic." I can't believe we're dealing with this kind of crap being taken seriously again.
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ryannaughton1138: It is just one citation, and while whoever wrote this obviously should have known better, it doesn't automatically disprove the overall point of the report which is all about online threats and harassment.

Plus the UN is ultimately in the words of Martin Starr, "a fundamentally symbolic organization founded on the principles of high-minded rhetoric and empty gestures. " They aren't coming to take video games away, and even if they did they'd find a way to screw it up.

I'm honestly shocked that mods haven't put the kibosh on this thread, because this is just conspiracy theory fear-mongering of the highest order, and it makes me ashamed to be a gamer.
Why delete it? You have the complete and utter freedom to ignore this thread. Isn't it a wonderful thing? That you can still disagree and still allow people to discuss what they'd like?
And if you'd like the conspiracy theory card so much; please have a look at this : https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/citation-games-by-the-united-nations-cyberviolence-e8bb1336c8d1

EDIT: That ''report'' is full of holes really ; https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3mipru/un_report_on_cyber_violence_literally_quotes_the/
It even plagiarizes the reddit forums rules. Anyone believing a word of that has either not read it or is a bit delusional. Its basically a hit-piece citing old studies and claims that games are ''satanic'' and all that right wing shit the left gleefully accepts for their ideological war against whatever they happen to dislike. If you believe anything in that ''study'' or what was it, ''report''; pray post it here and someone can deconstruct it for you. If you don't wanna, just remember all religions started that way.
Post edited September 27, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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ryannaughton1138: I'm honestly shocked that mods haven't put the kibosh on this thread, because this is just conspiracy theory fear-mongering of the highest order, and it makes me ashamed to be a gamer.
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Rusty_Gunn: 1. Call me crazy, but I don't think that would be a good way for GOG to say "Your freedom of speech isn't in danger of being censored out".

2. why does the fact that people are fighting for the continued existence of free expression make you "ashamed to be a gamer"?
Because that's not what you are fighting for. This is all about silencing critics who have different opinions then your own. So Anita Sarkeesian has a different opinion about video games that you like. Big deal. She's basically talking about stuff I learned in my Community College Sociology class, and that's not exactly ground breaking stuff. But the fact that the movement is trying to make her and people like her out to be grotesque monsters is sickening. Her rise in popularity is because Gamergate will not shut up about her.

And before you mention Zoe Qunn, I'd like to share this post from the man who started this whole charade:https://thezoepost.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/tldr-2/

Also, here is a nice lesson on how "free expression" really works: http://xkcd.com/1357/