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LiquidOxygen80: You know, for someone who claims to stand for equality and all these positive things, all I see from every post you've ever posted, is the worst toxic, viperlike, cancerous personality I've ever witnessed. It's ironic that you're calling a bunch of gamers and women a hate group, but the only hatred I see from both sides seems to be coming from yours. That's not how you win friends, pal. That's how you get people to dismiss YOU as the hate group, because all you do is make unfounded claims, baseless insults and throw weak jabs at strawmen.

You're like a cartoon caricature facist, desperately trying to paint narratives about one of the most inclusive cultures ever, but the only thing that you've succeeded in doing, is making it LESS inclusive. I was playing Payday 2 just the other day, and a girl happened to join our team, and the two other guys respectfully asked her to leave, because they didn't feel comfortable playing with someone who could potentially slap abuse cases on them. They were polite about it, I'll give them that, but we knew nothing about that poor girl. She could have been really skilled and been a major help, but that didn't matter, because of the piss poor narrative you people have painted for normal gamers like me.

This isn't even an isolated occurence. I read that a woman gamer was asked to leave a DBZ game as well, for essentially the same reasons. So instead of making a "safe space" for women, what you're doing is making a clear division for people who never had a problem with it prior. I'm sick to death of people like you, peddling hatred in guise of progress, division in place of unity, and segregation instead of free congress with like minded people, regardless of background or ethnicity. If ANYONE is full of hate. It's not GG or normal gamers. It's you.
thats a bit....excessive
(not that i don't understand where they are coming from. I myself sometimes feel uncomfortable taking a seat next to a girl on the bus because these days she might see that as harassment)

Just try to be polite. I myself tend to can the thrashtalk and memeing, which isn't actually a good thing because 1) you should be allowed to be yourself and 2)many gaming girls don't want players to behave different; (they often want to join in)
This was told to me by a female admin from a TF2 group i used to frequent. They all behaved around her as they'd behave around anyone and she didn't care/mind.

remember, many/most gaming girls just want to play vidya. Play vidya and have fun.

because that's what this is all about: VIDYA
Post edited April 20, 2015 by dragonbeast
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LiquidOxygen80: You know, for someone who claims to stand for equality and all these positive things, all I see from every post you've ever posted, is the worst toxic, viperlike, cancerous personality I've ever witnessed. It's ironic that you're calling a bunch of gamers and women a hate group, but the only hatred I see from both sides seems to be coming from yours. That's not how you win friends, pal. That's how you get people to dismiss YOU as the hate group, because all you do is make unfounded claims, baseless insults and throw weak jabs at strawmen.

You're like a cartoon caricature facist, desperately trying to paint narratives about one of the most inclusive cultures ever, but the only thing that you've succeeded in doing, is making it LESS inclusive. I was playing Payday 2 just the other day, and a girl happened to join our team, and the two other guys respectfully asked her to leave, because they didn't feel comfortable playing with someone who could potentially slap abuse cases on them. They were polite about it, I'll give them that, but we knew nothing about that poor girl. She could have been really skilled and been a major help, but that didn't matter, because of the piss poor narrative you people have painted for normal gamers like me.

This isn't even an isolated occurence. I read that a woman gamer was asked to leave a DBZ game as well, for essentially the same reasons. So instead of making a "safe space" for women, what you're doing is making a clear division for people who never had a problem with it prior. I'm sick to death of people like you, peddling hatred in guise of progress, division in place of unity, and segregation instead of free congress with like minded people, regardless of background or ethnicity. If ANYONE is full of hate. It's not GG or normal gamers. It's you.
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dragonbeast: thats a bit....excessive
(not that i don't understand where they are coming from. I myself sometimes feel uncomfortable taking a seat next to a girl on the bus because these days she might see that as harassment)

Just try to be polite. I myself tend to can the thrashtalk and memeing, which isn't actually a good thing because 1) you should be allowed to be yourself and 2)many gaming girls don't want players to behave different; (they often want to join in)
This was told to me by a female admin from a TF2 group i used to frequent. They all behaved around her as they'd behave around anyone and she didn't care/mind.

remember, many/most gaming girls just want to play vidya. Play vidya and have fun.

because that's what this is all about: VIDYA
Yet strangely the antis don't seem to have figured that bit out yet
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
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LiquidOxygen80: You know, for someone who claims to stand for equality and all these positive things, all I see from every post you've ever posted, is the worst toxic, viperlike, cancerous personality I've ever witnessed. It's ironic that you're calling a bunch of gamers and women a hate group, but the only hatred I see from both sides seems to be coming from yours. That's not how you win friends, pal. That's how you get people to dismiss YOU as the hate group, because all you do is make unfounded claims, baseless insults and throw weak jabs at strawmen.

You're like a cartoon caricature facist, desperately trying to paint narratives about one of the most inclusive cultures ever, but the only thing that you've succeeded in doing, is making it LESS inclusive. I was playing Payday 2 just the other day, and a girl happened to join our team, and the two other guys respectfully asked her to leave, because they didn't feel comfortable playing with someone who could potentially slap abuse cases on them. They were polite about it, I'll give them that, but we knew nothing about that poor girl. She could have been really skilled and been a major help, but that didn't matter, because of the piss poor narrative you people have painted for normal gamers like me.

This isn't even an isolated occurence. I read that a woman gamer was asked to leave a DBZ game as well, for essentially the same reasons. So instead of making a "safe space" for women, what you're doing is making a clear division for people who never had a problem with it prior. I'm sick to death of people like you, peddling hatred in guise of progress, division in place of unity, and segregation instead of free congress with like minded people, regardless of background or ethnicity. If ANYONE is full of hate. It's not GG or normal gamers. It's you.
Stop, the 13th amendment makes it illegal to own people like this.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash adults' party, adults ask them to go, girls ban adults from party, the end.
There; fixed that for ya!

Seriously if that is the reply you can live with, you should just give up human life and become judgmental cat. You accuse so many people of misogyny and when real women are forcefully excluded from expressing their opinion by a bunch of lying crybabies, you say they were immature and they deserved it?

Allow me: You misogynist!

This is unreal. Just unreal. Are you out of your mind? Can any sane human not see the facts and not see what was going on?

MINORITY:

Dictionary.com-a group in society distinguished from, and less dominant than, the more numerous majority.
SJWs-a group in society distinguished from, and less dominant than, the more numerous majority*.

*=mental age below 10, will not mind being led by a superior for no remuneration, must hate logic and reason, must not believe in conversational debate, must deny any statement not approved by the master, is loyal to the master, is more equal than majority, preferably sexually abused to bring in more sheep, must have a sad story of how the patriarchy ruined life, preferably LGBTQ and willing to LISTEN AND BELIEVE.
Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
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HiPhish: Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
But..........games.......and women........and harassment.....and tumbler..........and cisgendered sons of the patriarchy......and banned.............?

See; I've laid out my proof! If you disagree you're a misogynist!
remember when femfreq got really salty when that polygon article did not call gg a misogynist hate group? So they get angry when their opponents are not dragged trough the dirt all the time while women get banned for voicing their opinion.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
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LiquidOxygen80: You know, for someone who claims to stand for equality and all these positive things, all I see from every post you've ever posted, is the worst toxic, viperlike, cancerous personality I've ever witnessed. It's ironic that you're calling a bunch of gamers and women a hate group, but the only hatred I see from both sides seems to be coming from yours. That's not how you win friends, pal. That's how you get people to dismiss YOU as the hate group, because all you do is make unfounded claims, baseless insults and throw weak jabs at strawmen.

You're like a cartoon caricature facist, desperately trying to paint narratives about one of the most inclusive cultures ever, but the only thing that you've succeeded in doing, is making it LESS inclusive. I was playing Payday 2 just the other day, and a girl happened to join our team, and the two other guys respectfully asked her to leave, because they didn't feel comfortable playing with someone who could potentially slap abuse cases on them. They were polite about it, I'll give them that, but we knew nothing about that poor girl. She could have been really skilled and been a major help, but that didn't matter, because of the piss poor narrative you people have painted for normal gamers like me.

This isn't even an isolated occurence. I read that a woman gamer was asked to leave a DBZ game as well, for essentially the same reasons. So instead of making a "safe space" for women, what you're doing is making a clear division for people who never had a problem with it prior. I'm sick to death of people like you, peddling hatred in guise of progress, division in place of unity, and segregation instead of free congress with like minded people, regardless of background or ethnicity. If ANYONE is full of hate. It's not GG or normal gamers. It's you.
Its excessive but i've heard of this happening a lot. And when the people who are creating this sort of environment report on it the guys are refereed to as "pissbabies" or something moronic like that and thus the problem continues.

And when did these girls crash the party? Those weren't armbands and nametags and junk they were handed?

Since when do you need to pay money to crash something.

FFS its like Anti-GG aren't even trying to make sense anymore.

THIS IS WHY I NEED MENINISM!!!
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HiPhish: Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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And how exactly does that warrant a ban? If you really think they were expelled for anything other than being GGers, you're kinda deluded. Its in SJW ideology; so its not difficult for people practicing it to understand. Who in their right mind will take and accept an official white collar statement like that? Lets not pretend they were asked to leave for reasons other than GG; because that is the obvious truth.
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HiPhish: Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
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Fever_Discordia: They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
They where also selling merchandise with among other had the "The Worlds Cutest Rape Joke" logo on them, which for some reason did not go down very well...
Post edited April 24, 2015 by amok
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Is talking about something going to make it happen?
I'm posting about an i5 4960X and an AMD Radeon R9 280. When do I get my free stuff from people who encourage toxic hardware culture?
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Shadowstalker16: And how exactly does that warrant a ban? If you really think they were expelled for anything other than being GGers, you're kinda deluded. Its in SJW ideology; so its not difficult for people practicing it to understand. Who in their right mind will take and accept an official white collar statement like that? Lets not pretend they were asked to leave for reasons other than GG; because that is the obvious truth.
GGers and self-confessed 'mens rights activists' i.e. members of 2 different hate groups at once - funny how those 2 things seem to go hand-in-hand when GG is supposed to be about journalistic ethics...
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Shadowstalker16: Is talking about something going to make it happen?
I'm posting about an i5 4960X and an AMD Radeon R9 280. When do I get my free stuff from people who encourage toxic hardware culture?
I... Wut? Sorry maybe I'm just being think but Wut? Talking about what exactly?

Again, to me the 'Men-rights' movement is the same as 'Straight-pride' and 'White Supremacists' - it's the gender politics version of the KKK and, as we have seen, is often fronted by pick-up artists who I liken to Tom Cruise's character from Magnolia...
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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HiPhish: Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
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Fever_Discordia: They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
Always choose getting information first hand if possible.
This is a recording of the event including the exact point it's actually about:
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granny: On the Honey Badger issue, this seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymkIiGRvtBg
The relevant part starts at 18.30.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdTVMiD0UI

Could someone remind me again how it's GamerGate driving women out of games, comics, and conventions? I keep forgetting...
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MrLongPants: THIS IS WHY I NEED MENINISM!!!
It's called masculism and is usually seen and slandered the same way as feminism was a long time ago, the post above this one is just one example of many.
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Fever_Discordia: They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
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Klumpen0815: Always choose getting information first hand if possible:
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granny: On the Honey Badger issue, this seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymkIiGRvtBg
The relevant part starts at 18.30.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdTVMiD0UI

Could someone remind me again how it's GamerGate driving women out of games, comics, and conventions? I keep forgetting...
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Klumpen0815:
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MrLongPants: THIS IS WHY I NEED MENINISM!!!
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Klumpen0815: It's called masculism and is usually seen and slandered the same way as feminism was a long time ago, the post above this one is just one example of many.
...for good reason