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Yeah, that's basically all there is to it...
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RPGOracle: Yeah, that's basically all there is to it...
Thanks! :) Will keep an eye for a nice game now.
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RPGOracle: I think what Xaxius is saying, is that this is basically a TRADING thread... you TRADE one game for another one of similar value.
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Except that it's not a trading thread, it's a "'pay it forward" for a game you get gifted. People treating it as one is what made it go down hill.


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Dessimu: Ok, this looks very interesting and I'd like to participate. Just so I don't make a mistake: I choose a game from the list and make an official comment/post here, saying "I want/take <...> and leave <game of my choice>", yes? In the meantime, while I am waiting to receive a game, I update a list with the one I give. Do I understand it right? And last thing: once I update the list, I just hit "Share" and it's done?
Not quite.

You reply to the post that leaves a game that interests you, also stating which game you're leaving in the spirit of "paying it forward". You wait for a reply. if the game is given to you, then and only then you edit the list to add your game and remove the one you got, if the gifter doesn't do it themselves.

You can always leave a game without taking one, so long it's not a game that conflicts with the rules set in the OP.
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RPGOracle: I think what Xaxius is saying, is that this is basically a TRADING thread... you TRADE one game for another one of similar value.
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HypersomniacLive: Except that it's not a trading thread, it's a "'pay it forward" for a game you get gifted. People treating it as one is what made it go down hill.
That's semantics. Although you're not trading 1-on-1 with another user, you're allowed to take a game off the list under the condition that you trade it in for another game.
But that aside... based on your comment, can I conclude that you disagree with the rest of my post (ie Xaxius proposition) as well?
Post edited November 20, 2014 by RPGOracle
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HypersomniacLive: ...
Thank you, that's a big help. Now I understand the system perfectly! :]
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RPGOracle: That's semantics. Although you're not trading 1-on-1 with another user, you're allowed to take a game off the list under the condition that you trade it in for another game.
But that aside... based on your comment, can I conclude that you disagree with the rest of my post (ie Xaxius proposition) as well?
With all due respect, you don't seem to understand (or perhaps don't accept/ endorse?) the concept of paying it forward, i.e. doing something nice for a complete stranger in appreciation and thanks for something nice done to one by another complete stranger. Calling and regarding it as semantics is the reason why people end up treating the thread as a trading one.

I didn't follow that discussion. I just don't like it when people treat this thread as a trading one as this was and is not the intention of the OP, and that's what I wanted to comment on.
Frankly, I'm not sure why I even bother anymore, people don't seem to care one way or the other.

Anyway, everyone is free to do as they see fit.
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HypersomniacLive: Except that it's not a trading thread, it's a "'pay it forward" for a game you get gifted. People treating it as one is what made it go down hill.
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RPGOracle: That's semantics. Although you're not trading 1-on-1 with another user, you're allowed to take a game off the list under the condition that you trade it in for another game.
But that aside... based on your comment, can I conclude that you disagree with the rest of my post (ie Xaxius proposition) as well?
THIS IS NOT A TRADING THREAD!
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HypersomniacLive: With all due respect, you don't seem to understand (or perhaps don't accept/ endorse?) the concept of paying it forward, i.e. doing something nice for a complete stranger in appreciation and thanks for something nice done to one by another complete stranger. Calling and regarding it as semantics is the reason why people end up treating the thread as a trading one.

I didn't follow that discussion. I just don't like it when people treat this thread as a trading one as this was and is not the intention of the OP, and that's what I wanted to comment on.
Frankly, I'm not sure why I even bother anymore, people don't seem to care one way or the other.

Anyway, everyone is free to do as they see fit.
I apologize in advance if this comes across as rude, but "I didn't follow that discussion" is the key part here... that entire discussion was summarized in the second half of my post, that you replied to... and if you had taken the time to read through my entire post, you'd have seen that it was about giving away games for free, without taking anything for them, or without expecting anything in return... ie the other aspect of this thread. Maybe then you'd have realized that I absolutely do understand and appreciate the concept of "paying it forward", and am actively trying to help improve this thread.
Imho, this thread is built on 2 kinds of actions:
1. People giving away games without expecting anything in return
2. People taking a game from the list, and exchanging it with another game

It's that second part that I refer to as the "trading" part (even if you don't trade directly with another user). It's the combination of these two parts that makes up the "paying it forward". One absolutely does not exclude the other.
And I didn't mean to belittle "paying it forward" by calling it "semantics", it's just that how you call it is completely irrelevant to the original discussion.
Post edited November 20, 2014 by RPGOracle
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Xaxius: ...is there some sort of language barrier here... its not a giveaway because, while it is true I would get nothing, the person taking the game would have to leave something. there is nothing against just leaving games for others to take if the OP hadn't left a few games when he started this thread NOONE would be here.

the whole point of leaving something and taking nothing is to increase the options for people and draw more people into the thread. a perfect example besides the OP is that I took a game and left 2 why did I leave 2 because that means that 2 people can take those games and leave games of their own thus increasing the total number of games available It doesn't do anything but help the thread grow.
Ok let's try differently

You want to drop a game fine to this point, but not a free one. > there are multiples topics where you can do that. Heck i could even drop multiiples one here : but it goes against the rules. Because i don't want this thread become a dump thread for freebies.

Nevertheless DID YOU READ THE NAME OF THE THREAD ?

On the same games values topic : Sorry to disturb some of you : but many users aldready violated this principle ; i don't expect exactly the same value :but too many time some people left a game with low value for a game with much higher value -> It's not really written in the OP, but as far i know cmdr_flashheart expected a game taken & a game left would have a similar value (it's seems natural to me).

On the trading topic others have already answered
Post edited November 20, 2014 by DyNaer
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DyNaer: On the same games values topic : Sorry to disturb some of you : but many users aldready violated this principle ; i don't expect exactly the same value :but too many time some people left a game with low value for a game with much higher value -> It's not really written in the OP, but as far i know the cmdr_flashheart expected games taken & game left with a similar value (it's seems natural to me).
I completely agree with you there. The 65% value rule that the other take-one-give-one thread uses, sounds very reasonable to me. So when taking a game, the game you leave should be at least 65% of the value of the previous one (more is perfectly okay, ofcourse).

And I believe not allowing multiple copies of the same game on the list, at the same time, is a very reasonable requirement as well.

But with those restrictions in mind, and under the conditions I recommended in my previous post, I still don't understand why it shouldn't be allowed to gift games that were at some point free (but no longer are), if you're not taking anything in return, and only helping to give the people taking games from the list, more options. Can someone please explain that to me?
Post edited November 20, 2014 by RPGOracle
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RPGOracle: I agree with you there. The 65% value rule that the other take-one-give-one thread uses, sounds very reasonable to me. So when taking a game, the game you leave should be at least 65% of the value of the previous one (more is perfectly okay, ofcourse).

And I believe not allowing multiple copies of the same game on the list, at the same time, is a very reasonable requirement as well.

But with those restrictions in mind, and under the conditions I recommended in my previous post, I don't see why it should't be allowed to gift games that were at some point free (but no longer are), if you're not taking anything in return, and only helping to give the people taking games from the list, more options.
if a game is no more free it's reasonable, i just wanted to avoid games which are still free.
Is it OK to gift HB keys here? I really would like to get ************* but I cant seem to catch a break on the sale :( Am most definitely a sad panda!
Post edited November 20, 2014 by d_wing
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d_wing: Is it OK to gift HB keys here? I really would like to get Shadowrun:Dragonfall but I cant seem to catch a break on the sale :( Am most definitely a sad panda!
HB links or HB keys are totaly valid :)
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d_wing: Is it OK to gift HB keys here? I really would like to get Shadowrun:Dragonfall but I cant seem to catch a break on the sale :( Am most definitely a sad panda!
Yes, it's okay to gift HB keys... but what isn't allowed here, is requesting a specific game that's not currently on the list (Shadowrun: Dragonfall), in return of your gift.
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d_wing: Is it OK to gift HB keys here? I really would like to get ********* but I cant seem to catch a break on the sale :( Am most definitely a sad panda!
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RPGOracle: Yes, it's okay to gift HB keys... but what isn't allowed here, is requesting a specific game that's not currently on the list (**********), in return of your gift.
Ah! Okay thanks, I was having trouble understanding how this all works, even watching the first pages! Previous Post edited ;)
Post edited November 20, 2014 by d_wing