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Posted January 08, 2018
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fronzelneekburm: I had a feeling this was going to struggle in China, but it's a https://s14.postimg.org/iv4x0q9u9/image.jpg[/url]. There was a total of 5 people in the audience when the film started. Disney apparently wrapped their heads around the fact that no one in China knows anything about Star Wars, so they even put in explanatory multilingual (English and Chinese) intertitles for introducing characters and plot points from earlier movies (like when R2 plays Leia's message from the original trilogy).

As for the movie itself, well... reading IMDB reviews already inoculated me against the most hardcore retardation this film has to offer. Still, that scene with Leia - you know the one - still managed to make me cringe. It's a pretty terrible movie, but I'm still a bit surprised by the hostility it got from audiences this time around. Hollywood's been churning out equally retarded garbage for years now and it doesn't get called out, it gets celebrated. The Star Trek reboot is easily as stupid as this, yet people were drooling all over it.
I really don't get the hate for Leia's confirmed force powers. Being able to survive in space is a canonical use of Force, even! That was a great moment and there's nothing to even nerdrage about.

There was stuff about TLJ that didn't work, but so far most of the complaints I've seen are a lot of nonsense spewed out by people who had created some movie in their head and were upset when TLJ didn't match exactly what they expected.
Posted January 08, 2018
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tinyE: And yet Warcraft was a mega success there.
NEVER underestimate the young, affluent Chinese moviegoers' penchant to enjoy really shitty movies!

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Gilozard: That was a great moment and there's nothing to even nerdrage about.
I disagree. It looked ridiculous. I was laughing out loud because of how stupid it looked. I'm not sure this was the reaction they were hoping for. She even has her one arm stretched out, like she was Superman or something.

It would have been a perfect moment to off her character, what with Carrie Fisher dead now and everything. Instead, they went with this.
Posted January 08, 2018
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tinyE: And yet Warcraft was a mega success there.
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fronzelneekburm: NEVER underestimate the young, affluent Chinese moviegoers' penchant to enjoy really shitty movies!

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Gilozard: That was a great moment and there's nothing to even nerdrage about.
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fronzelneekburm: I disagree. It looked ridiculous. I was laughing out loud because of how stupid it looked. I'm not sure this was the reaction they were hoping for. She even has her one arm stretched out, like she was Superman or something.

It would have been a perfect moment to off her character, what with Carrie Fisher dead now and everything. Instead, they went with this.
Warcraft wasn't that bad, I just thought it was a tad confusing and the armor/swords for the humans was kind of stupid looking.
Posted January 08, 2018
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tinyE: And yet Warcraft was a mega success there.
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fronzelneekburm: NEVER underestimate the young, affluent Chinese moviegoers' penchant to enjoy really shitty movies!

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Gilozard: That was a great moment and there's nothing to even nerdrage about.
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fronzelneekburm: I disagree. It looked ridiculous. I was laughing out loud because of how stupid it looked. I'm not sure this was the reaction they were hoping for. She even has her one arm stretched out, like she was Superman or something.

It would have been a perfect moment to off her character, what with Carrie Fisher dead now and everything. Instead, they went with this.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. I didn't think it looked any more ridiculous than a bunch of the Force moments in the OT or PT, and there was no way to kill off Leia at that point. It would have axed a bunch of important emotional moments for the plot...and Carrie Fisher died after the movie was set in stone, they couldn't have gone back and changed anything at that point. That was never going to happen.

Plus, there's never a perfect moment to off Leia. That's not just something that exists.
Posted January 08, 2018
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Gilozard: That was a great moment and there's nothing to even nerdrage about.
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fronzelneekburm: I disagree. It looked ridiculous. I was laughing out loud because of how stupid it looked. I'm not sure this was the reaction they were hoping for. She even has her one arm stretched out, like she was Superman or something.
This. That was my exact reaction to that scene. I just laughed and couldn't stop. It's not what they did, as much as how they did it. It just looks ridiculous, and it looks so much like a scene from Superman Returns I was almost hearing the Superman theme.

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fronzelneekburm: I had a feeling this was going to struggle in China, but it's a bona-fide bomb. There was a total of 5 people in the audience when the film started. Disney apparently wrapped their heads around the fact that no one in China knows anything about Star Wars, so they even put in explanatory multilingual (English and Chinese) intertitles for introducing characters and plot points from earlier movies (like when R2 plays Leia's message from the original trilogy).
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tinyE: And yet Warcraft was a mega success there.
Because Warcraft, unlike Star Wars, is a massively popular brand there.

Also, I won't lie- I liked the Warcraft movie more than both Force Awakens and Last Jedi :P
Posted January 08, 2018
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morolf: And then you cut your arm off and bleed to death.
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Stig79: Worked for Han Solo when he used it to cut the Tauntaun open.
Are you really comparing the skill needed for lightsaber sword-fighting to the one needed to cut open a dead animal? O_o
Post edited January 08, 2018 by phaolo
Posted January 08, 2018
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Stig79: Worked for Han Solo when he used it to cut the Tauntaun open.
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phaolo: Are you really comparing the skill needed for lightsaber sword-fighting to the one needed to cut open a dead animal? O_o
We need more posts like this in here. XD
Posted January 08, 2018
Was going to go and watch it but think I'm going to skip this one. Accidentally read a massive spoiler beforehand, because I wasn't thinking, and the spoiler kinda pissed me off. So I went ahead and read a few more plot details looking for redeeming circumstances but only ended up losing interest altogether. I'm just not feeling it. Perhaps I'll check it out once it comes to tv, but I'm not going to sit in the cinema for almost 3 hours knowing I'm most likely going to be annoyed or bored for most of it.
I consider myself very lucky though. Unlike a lot of people (it would seem) I can at least still massively enjoy each of the first 6 episodes.
Posted January 09, 2018
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wpegg: Apart from the speed of light (and I don't think SW got relativistic) there is no such thing.
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LootHunter: SW IS relativistic. The whole stars-become-lines mode point is to go FTL.
It's not really worth drilling into (we've already established the series of films struggle with Newtonian physics), but Star Wars goes to "light speed", or in the case of The Falcon, "she can do point 5 past light speed". If you exceed light speed through conventional accelleration then you're breaking relativity. They also don't address any time related crazyness that would result from it all. I think it's safe to say they ignore relativity, rather than account for it.
Posted January 09, 2018
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phaolo: Are you really comparing the skill needed for lightsaber sword-fighting to the one needed to cut open a dead animal? O_o
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tinyE: We need more posts like this in here. XD
I agree. I can cut up a roast for dinner, so I am a fencing master, dindja know?
Posted January 09, 2018
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tinyE: We need more posts like this in here. XD
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TARFU: I agree. I can cut up a roast for dinner, so I am a fencing master, dindja know?
It wasn't the science of the post, but rather the subject itself. Who knows if it takes any skill to slice open a dead Tauntaun with a light sabre; what I love is that we are discussing it in the first place. XD

Right now there are some idiots out there discussing politics and interest rates and god know what else, but screw them, this is a discussion we can all benefit from and enjoy!
Post edited January 09, 2018 by tinyE
Posted January 09, 2018
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TARFU: I agree. I can cut up a roast for dinner, so I am a fencing master, dindja know?
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tinyE: It wasn't the science of the post, but rather the subject itself. Who knows if it takes any skill to slice open a dead Tauntaun with a light sabre; what I love is that we are discussing it in the first place. XD

Right now there are some idiots out there discussing politics and interest rates and god know what else, but screw them, this is a discussion we can all benefit from and enjoy!
OK, I see your point. Good observation. This forum works best when discussions are kept to gaming/computers/tech and sci-fi/fantasy topics.
Posted January 09, 2018
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tinyE: Right now there are some idiots out there discussing politics and interest rates and god know what else, but screw them, this is a discussion we can all benefit from and enjoy!
Talking about SW doesn't exclude also talking about politics elsewhere. :P
Posted January 09, 2018
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Stig79: Worked for Han Solo when he used it to cut the Tauntaun open.
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phaolo: Are you really comparing the skill needed for lightsaber sword-fighting to the one needed to cut open a dead animal? O_o
A lightsaber i just a sword. In the hands of a jedi, who can predict what the opponent is doing, it is something more. A regular sword fighter, who has trained with regular swords, can still do well with a lightsaber. Anyone with some skill can use it.
Posted January 09, 2018
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Stig79: A lightsaber i just a sword. In the hands of a jedi, who can predict what the opponent is doing, it is something more. A regular sword fighter, who has trained with regular swords, can still do well with a lightsaber. Anyone with some skill can use it.
That's a better point than the Han Solo one.
But.. I doubt that many non-Jedi have been trained in sword-fighting* in a futuristic world where blasters are common.
For Jedi it makes sense, because with light sabers they can also deflect lasers.

* except for those new stormtroopers with the nonsensical melee weapons, however..
Post edited January 09, 2018 by phaolo
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