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zeogold: Then we can take that a step further and look at what our resident tech wizards have done. Adaliabooks, Barefoot_Monkey, and many others have shown how easily exploitable this website is. Just some hobby-level coding (I mean this not as an insult, but more pointing out that these two did it as a fun project rather than getting paid for it) and suddenly the place is altered greatly if the script is downloaded.
But if things can be altered for one person, doesn't that mean it can be altered for everybody? toxicTom and Alaric have proven that. Anybody with a decent head on their shoulders and a fair amount of coding knowledge can completely alter the place.
I wrote a simple grease-monkey script that does minor things, like pre-loading images and makes code and strike-through tags work.

Although that's hardly the level of complexity as barefoot essentials or jerkmuter...
I think its better to consider posts spam by default and report everything then allow only the approved posts to stay up. What's say?
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zeogold: As much as I never thought I'd find myself saying this...Kleetus has the best point.
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Kleetus: The mods and owner of this site allows the thread, there's your permit right there.
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zeogold: That's it. That's the whole issue. Everything else is a moot point.
We'll always have endless trolls and morons and scammers and flamewars and rep wars and spam wars and spam-deletion wars. We've had them from the beginning, and it's only gotten worse, and it'll only ever GET worse. Nothing's ever going to change and anything that isn't a news page will become the equivalent of a 4chan topic.
The only thing that could possibly ever stop it is moderation, even the lightest of moderation. But we haven't had that for 8 years and by this point, we probably never will. People like Kleetus can troll to their hearts' desire. Bradley can post all the porn and piracy he wants. rctvb32 can spam the forum all day and night. Tauto is free to stalk and annoy whoever he likes. ciomalau can make rape threats to every vaguely-female-seeming person on the website.
Then we can take that a step further and look at what our resident tech wizards have done. Adaliabooks, Barefoot_Monkey, and many others have shown how easily exploitable this website is. Just some hobby-level coding (I mean this not as an insult, but more pointing out that these two did it as a fun project rather than getting paid for it) and suddenly the place is altered greatly if the script is downloaded.
But if things can be altered for one person, doesn't that mean it can be altered for everybody? toxicTom and Alaric have proven that. Anybody with a decent head on their shoulders and a fair amount of coding knowledge can completely alter the place. And anything that can be altered can be wrecked. What's to prevent somebody from making an auto-deletion script? A script preventing users from posting? A script which blocks posts with certain words in them?
All of these arguments about free speech, spam, trolls, and what is and isn't acceptable are worthless. We can prattle on about them all we want, but nothing will ever change unless GOG finally steps in for once. This is what the lurkers and people who left long ago realized, and this is exactly why they stopped being active, because they decided that such a small and wreckable website wasn't worth it.
Don't get me wrong, the people in here, the actual, true community are some of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. But sadly, we're all on a place that is being increasingly exploited as more and more people come and realize what can be done with it.
You forgot tinye can insult parents and family.Hell,there's a lot missing does that mean your biased?
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Tauto: You forgot tinye can insult parents and family.Hell,there's a lot missing does that mean your biased?
Oh, tinyE is by no means perfect. He'll be the first to tell you that he'd have doubtless received a warning from staff or been booted for the tantrums he's thrown. I could go into great detail into him and plenty of others from political threads, news threads, game threads...but I decided not to in order to save space. If I went into every instance where somebody would have been warned or banned, there wouldn't be enough room in this thread.
Certainly not worse than places such as 4chan, where everything I've listed is a common occurrence, but it's rather a shame for a company website to end up like this. I doubt they'll care unless it's losing them business. In fact, I don't think they ever even expected it to become a "community" at all. I think they figured it would be a place where people would stop by every now and then to ask technical questions about games and sales and prices and then go on about their merry old way. And suddenly it flourished into something they'd never planned on and instead of deciding to tend to it, they decided to just let it take care of itself. Whether this led to a working system or a complete flop is none of their concern since it has no effect on them. I've said this before, but I'll say it again:
I would honestly not be surprised if they just shut the forum down altogether one day.
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rtcvb32: Although that's hardly the level of complexity as barefoot essentials or jerkmuter...
The point isn't that scripts can be made, the point is that these scripts can visibly affect the forum. Barefoot Essentials, Adalia Fundamentals, and JerkMuter all proved that individual user abilities could be manipulated. toxicTom's spam-report script and Alaric's reposting script took this to the next level and altered the site itself.
So what's the next step, then? If this can be accomplished, what else can?
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Tauto: You forgot tinye can insult parents and family.Hell,there's a lot missing does that mean your biased?
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zeogold: Oh, tinyE is by no means perfect. He'll be the first to tell you that he'd have doubtless received a warning from staff or been booted for the tantrums he's thrown. I could go into great detail into him and plenty of others from political threads, news threads, game threads...but I decided not to in order to save space. If I went into every instance where somebody would have been warned or banned, there wouldn't be enough room in this thread.
Certainly not worse than places such as 4chan, where everything I've listed is a common occurrence, but it's rather a shame for a company website to end up like this. I doubt they'll care unless it's losing them business. In fact, I don't think they ever even expected it to become a "community" at all. I think they figured it would be a place where people would stop by every now and then to ask technical questions about games and sales and prices and then go on about their merry old way. And suddenly it flourished into something they'd never planned on and instead of deciding to tend to it, they decided to just let it take care of itself. Whether this led to a working system or a complete flop is none of their concern since it has no effect on them. I've said this before, but I'll say it again:
I would honestly not be surprised if they just shut the forum down altogether one day.
Thankyou for your honesty.
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zeogold: People like Kleetus can troll to their hearts' desire.
And people like you who post stupid threads, stupid posts,abuse the rep system and attack others.

But that's not trolling, it's only the behaviour of others you don't like, that's when it's trolling.
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zeogold: People like Kleetus can troll to their hearts' desire.
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Kleetus: And people like you who post stupid threads, stupid posts,abuse the rep system and attack others.

But that's not trolling, it's only the behaviour of others you don't like, that's when it's trolling.
I've never abused the rep system or attacked others, so I'm afraid you'll have to try to go for somebody else on that front.
Everybody makes stupid threads and stupid posts. It's the humorous nature of the forum. We make jokes, derail, laugh, don't take ourselves too seriously, and have a good time. It becomes different when those posts turn into spam or abuse, however.

Yes, true, I don't like behavior that's abusive and disrespectful. It's worth mentioning that such behavior is pretty much universally disliked, and technically against what rules we once had (if ever).
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zeogold: I've never abused the rep system or attacked others
Yes you have, and you do worse.

You started the shit with me, and you continue to bring my name up even when I've laid off you.

Not once, but repeatedly.

And as I've stated repeatedly, you people create the issues and animosity, then have the temerity to whine.

Prior to having the pleasure of "meeting" you and tinyE at the JerkMuter thread, my rep was in the positive 3 digits.

Never even saw a low rated post in all my years until then, now my rep is heading towards -700.

But no, you and your friends don't abuse the rep system or cause shit.
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Kleetus: And people like you who post stupid threads, stupid posts,abuse the rep system and attack others.

But that's not trolling, it's only the behaviour of others you don't like, that's when it's trolling.
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zeogold: I've never abused the rep system or attacked others, so I'm afraid you'll have to try to go for somebody else on that
I do both constantly so he can come over here.

I'll ignore him, but at least he can get the weight of attacking an innocent man off his chest.
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Kleetus: And people like you who post stupid threads, stupid posts,abuse the rep system and attack others.

But that's not trolling, it's only the behaviour of others you don't like, that's when it's trolling.
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zeogold: I've never abused the rep system or attacked others, so I'm afraid you'll have to try to go for somebody else on that front.
Everybody makes stupid threads and stupid posts. It's the humorous nature of the forum. We make jokes, derail, laugh, don't take ourselves too seriously, and have a good time. It becomes different when those posts turn into spam or abuse, however.

Yes, true, I don't like behavior that's abusive and disrespectful. It's worth mentioning that such behavior is pretty much universally disliked, and technically against what rules we once had (if ever).
(never attacked others) <<<<<<<<<<<<< That's a LIE!
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tinyE: I'll ignore him, but at least he can get the weight of attacking an innocent man off his chest.
We don't need another hero.
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Kleetus: You started the shit with me, and you continue to bring my name up even when I've laid off you.
Yes, because I've seen you harassing others who don't deserve such, and refuse to quit even when they've politely asked you to stop. I'm not about to "stay out of it" simply because you're laying off ME.
I haven't "delivered the first blow" if that's how you're looking at it. Treating you as a troll when you've repeatedly spammed and harassed both me and others (and even after you stopped doing it to me, as I will admit, this still didn't cease with others who didn't deserve it) isn't "creating an issue". Rather, it's addressing an issue already present.
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Kleetus: Prior to having the pleasure of "meeting" you and tinyE at the JerkMuter thread, my rep was in the positive 3 digits.

Never even saw a low rated post in all my years until then, now my rep is heading towards -700.

But no, you and your friends don't abuse the rep system or cause shit.
I don't have enough "friends" to cause you to hit -700 rep, neither do I have the will or the knowledge to abuse a script or use alt accounts for the purpose of getting you that far, so again, seek someone else to attack on that front.
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Tauto: (never attacked others) <<<<<<<<<<<<< That's a LIE!
Unless you can present me an instance where I've used slurs, expletives, or other abusive language towards another individual on here, I'm afraid it isn't.
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zeo doesn't have enough friends to get you to -7. :P

I consider him my friends but I wouldn't buy an apple from him and I sure as hell wouldn't join in a mass derep party with him.


Well, maybe if he gave me a hand job or something but I'm getting off topic here.
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tinyE: I wouldn't buy an apple from him
Oh, sure. Poison a guy's food once, and you're marked for life. A little arsenic is good for your stomach, ya wimp.
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tinyE: I wouldn't buy an apple from him
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zeogold: Oh, sure. Poison a guy's food once, and you're marked for life. A little arsenic is good for your stomach, ya wimp.
Hey it made me forget about my headache, which is saying something considering it was you that hit me with the hammer. :D