Seriously??? You TRUST the guy who pushed us to Dedo who was the first failure, claims me, ZFR and Adalia are in league because we know through his actions that both Dedo and Brasas will fail? The 5 guys on the scum team including secret Hitler revealing himself openly? The same guy who has no real explanation why a fascist would waffle like ZFR did on government #2 but because he waffled he is somehow clearly scum? Look, when I see people spreading b.s. like that, they are clearly fascists. This goes well beyond tunneling at this point and has well into selective cherry-picking...this is not a misguided liberal...

And then you TRUST both Greek and Lift when they received unanimous support to pass the 3rd liberal policy even though Lift slipping the name "Brasas" could have easily been used to derail his nomination? Did you even think about why it would make sense for Lift to pick Brasas in the first place? Putting two unknowns at the table? That nomination was that easy to derail if they wanted it to.

What you really mean is that if Brasas goes the WIFOM liberal route, they can count on their secret Hitler to save them in the Greek/Lift combo (either Greek will conveniently claim 3F or Lift will dispute him). Because dollars to donuts, one of them is the secret Hitler but that person will act liberal until forced to do otherwise. Of course if we are at 3F and he gets elected chancellor, we lose.

That vote should make it really obvious that Brasas is a fascist which proves Dedo is too. Because it makes zero sense that Adalia, ZFR and me would be pushing for a 3.6% chance of winning as scum like Scene claims. And if we aren't the scum, who is? You need to think through the possibilities yourself!!!! Not rely on who you think sounds good but are really spewing out cherry-picked gibberish.

@Dedo Wow, that's a whole lot of negative votes. I have to say I didn't expect that. Was adalia a good pick after all?
I think you are deliberately not trying to get what I was implying. I highlighted the part that makes your response questionable...it's not about the negative votes but nice try dodging it....

What do you mean, I picked Brasas? You're not making sense. I picked Greek as my chancellor. Or do you mean that I promoted the Brasas+Greek government over adalia? Yes, I did. With good reasons that I explained. And since the reasons were out there and widely accepted (basically a win-win situation for the liberals), the fascists couldn't disagree without looking bad. So I'm not surprised that the adalia government got rejected by almost everyone.

Now, I do kind of expect, that the Brasas/Greek government will pass a fascist policy and the most likely scenario is, that Brasas will claim to have drawn 2F 1L, passed on 1F 1L and that it's Greeks fault that 1F was enacted. Greek, conversely, will claim that he got 2F from Brasas. Slightly more interesting outcome would be if Brasas claims to have drawn 3F, because that would implicate dedo. The best outcome would be if Brasas draws 2L and passes them on to Greek.

Now, I do agree with you, that there is no reason to trust me blindly. And I agree that it is still possible that Greek is Hitler. I even agree that something about Scene feels very off. Either he isn't really paying attention to the game (repeating questions that were already answered to him directly are a sign of lacking attention) or he is a fascist ignoring parts of the game on purpose. All possible. But you, with all the ruckus you raise, could as well be fascist. Probably not Hitler, though. Too much noise. :-) - but of course, WIFOM.

My guess is rather, that Hitler is hiding among the silent players. That is the easiest play for Hitler, to not say much and not get into conflicts. But we will see. For now, as far as I see it, we have only one option left. Relying on chance with a random policy would really be anti-liberal. So we have to vote for the current government - and again, this is so obvious that even the fascists will have to agree and to vote Yes, even though it will probably turn out to be detrimental to them, one way or the other.

I'm thinking this will be the first 100% unanimous vote. But I would not mind if Fascists decide to troll and vote No...

My surprise mostly comes from the fact that not everyone was openly pro-Brasas so I did expect to see a couple of votes (maybe even from less trusting liberals) going in adalia's direction. What you say makes sense, though.

In post 278, in response to the Brasas slip, you responded that you were seriously considering Brasas as chancellor. You did explain that you were considering an out-of-the-box option in your previous post to that.

But you completely missed my point...
The point was that given your name slip, it would have been very easy for the fascists to turn that into a failed nomination and avoid going down 3-0.

All they had to do was question the slip and then push you as to why you were even considering Brasas in the first place since that would be two unknowns at the table. And all of it would be cloaked as liberals legitimately questioning your candidacy. Primarily because you would be an unknown, it would have been easy to smoothly pass it on to another more favorable president who they could count on to pass a fascist policy and avoid a 3-0 deficit. The next presidents being ZFR and then Dedo. Where most players seem to suspect one or the other. So unless they are also both liberals...why did they let this pass without question?

If you are both liberals, the fascists would know that for certain. Why did they allow your candidacy to go through so smoothly? They didn't even try to plant seeds of doubt. As to the (mostly - Brasas) unanimous vote, remember that the fascists do not have night chat. They cannot coordinate vote distancing. Hence they would all get stuck voting the same way to defend their Hitler and grant his legitimacy.

I'm not saying it's necessarily you. I have no idea. But I don't see any likely scenario that makes both you and Greek both liberals. And the fact that most of the proposed plans seem to be to use both of you as much as possible, that is quite disturbing...

Did you just tell your fellow Fascists to vote No?

Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining. I understand your concern now and it is something we'll have to take into account for the further governments after we have seen what the currently proposed one does.

You mean the first second 100% unanimous vote?

Fixed that for you.

Fixed that for you.

Some people haven't voted yet and that's disturbing :p

zeo seems to have made a mistake. I sent him my vote even before he confirmed the nomination.

zeo could you please check your PM from me.

The Bishop speaks truth. 'Twas a mistake on my part.

The only person who currently hasn't voted is Kusumahendra.

Sorry. A bit busier that usual. I just sent my vote

The votes are in! The results are as follows.

1. The Greek (greeklover) - YES
2. Boss Kusu (kusumahendra) - YES
3. Mr. Scene (supplementscene) - YES
4. Basil the Lifter (lifthrasil) - YES
5. Bishop Bling (ZFR) - YES
6. Captain Dedo (dedoporno) - YES
7. General Warehall (RWarehall) - YES
8. Adalia the Bookkeeper (adaliabooks) - YES
9. Big Brass (Brasas) - YES
10. Chief Blotunga (blotunga) - YES

The government is approved!

The president and chancellor (brasas and greeklover) are bound to silence until a policy is passed. As for the rest of you, feel free to sling accusations at each other in the meanwhile.

J'accuse!

It's a bit late for me at the moment and I'm squeezing this in before heading to bed, so apologies for not making stuff more official-sounding and adding more flavor and all that. I just want you guys to have something to work with so you're not sitting around waiting for me to wake up.

We'll just say the Puzzlemaster has slept through the entire thing and was only awakened by the sound of Big Brass' horn to find out the following:

The government has passed a liberal policy.

The current president is blotunga, who must pick a chancellor (who isn't Brasas or greeklover).

Also take note that the policy deck has been reshuffled.



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