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Well, stingy is still kind of the reason, if you see yourself buying it eventually anyway (Persona 5 is the sequel to my favorite game ever and I have been waiting for it for nearly a decade, and FF15 for literally a decade), then you might as well take the gamble on the cheaper price and take whatever other cool game happens to show up until then, like Bloodborne (which really is amazing) and Arkham Knight.

You're working with different variables sure, but the idea is still to look for the cheapest path to your destination.

Yup Sonny really messed up this one, but I'm still enjoying mine and I hope to continue for the years to come.

I suppose I can get what you mean on the cheapest path thing, but it all lies on the "buying it eventually" premise with which I disagree completely. Sure, a sequel to your favorite game ever is very tempted, I can understand that; but by that logic I would have blown a huge amount of money on invisible war. And that would have sucked balls.

To me, it's a very high stakes gamble that is simply not worth it. Might as well gamble on having another chance at a cheap price in the future, once you know the games you want are good enough.

That was meant to be my reply. I had it all sorted in my mind, down to the word. Ninja'd one whole hour ago...

I have a Vita and I'm perfectly hapy with it. And judging by the line-up on coming soon games for PS Vita here in Japan, no, the Vita is not dead yet (although it is the shadow of what it should have been).

Maybe it's time to start playing games on your phone. May I recommend Birth of the Empires? :P

On a more serious note, I wish there were more non-casual games for mobile platforms... right now it's the most viable platform to play on the road.

You may, but you'll have a hard time convincing me that it's worth to bother looking seriously into a phone game. Plus, there's the battery problem.

I don't mean to change your mind with this, I see where your coming from. In my particular case I knew the cheaper price in the future wasn't likely to come at all due to heavy import taxes in Brazil.

I've come to value, for the lack of a better expression, pure and fresh experiences. If it's a franchise that I am invested in and as such will play, or watch, or read it sooner or later, then I prefer to do it as soon as possible, in order to avoid the deluge of spoilers found on the internet. But not only that I'd rather go in blind, if I want to play it or watch it regardless, then I might as well not read reviews, and stop watching trailers, etc. Of course I'd rather the thing didn't suck, but I'm determined to find out for myself and not let someone else's negative opinion perhaps color mine. Whatever it is, I find that I always enjoy it just a little bit more if I leave myself untainted and go in with no expectations.

I feel touchscreens are completely rubbish for such ventures. Unintuitive input, tendency to mistype, pouting hands prominently into your limited LOS... I don't think I could possibly play Total war or Metro 2033 on an otherwise capable touchscreen device. Even Broken sword feels awkward.

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I know, and neither do I intend to change yours. We each have long made up our minds on what we're willing to spend our money on and this conversation is not going to change that, but it's still interesting to see a different viewpoint. Although I would argue that your Brazilian tax and chance of avoiding it is about as much of an edge case as my homelessness is when I claim to value digital over physical.

I like fresh experiences too, but that's what indies are for. I'm not gambling with the really pricey stuff, specially if it involves a whole gaming system. My own personal habits on the internet make it easy to avoid spoilers anyway, and I've developed a cynicism that makes it really hard for me to get hyped for any one game these days, so I'm never on a hurry to play anything. I actually did play persona 2 and 3 on the PSP, and if the 4th game improved as much from the 3rd as the 3rd did from the second, I can understand why you'd be hyped for the 5th. One of the main reasons to consider getting a PS vita was Persona 4, actually; I game I still know next to nothing about and would like to try out. But I'm still not willing to buy a PS vita just for it.

I allow myself to be invested in a few things enough that I would go to greater lengths to preserve that, I did expect I'd have more things to play by now than just Bloodborne and Arkham Knight, that was a bummer, but I did figure I'd get a console from this generation sooner or later to play all the stuff that isn't on PC so it didn't feel like I was going too out of my away to buy it then. By this I mean I got less value from it than I hoped, but I was always going to get at least enough value.

Part of it has to do with this generation as a whole, not that much to play until now. It seems this year is the one where things are finally kicking into high gear.

Fun fact: I bought a Wii U alongside the PS4 and, despite its reputation, I loved it. I use it all the time. Including for Atlus' "Persona by another name" Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (P.S.: that's the musical sign read as "sharp" not a hashtag, I think this title always scrambles people's brains a bit).

By the way, don't expect too much from Persona 4. The PSP version of P3 came after P4 and retroactively added a lot of 4's improvements to it. If you had played them on the PS2 like it would have been much more noticeable.

As for spoilers, I can't get away from them. I'm glad I watched the last Star Wars on the first day, because for weeks it seemed that no matter what article I read on the internet, regardless of the subject, the top comment was always an Episode 7 spoiler. And Game of Thrones, good God, when I was in Japan the episodes came out on 10am on Monday, by the time I got home to watch it I would have already gotten a spoiler. It got to the point where I just wouldn't use the internet at all on Mondays.

Cool you've just metion the only two games that could make me buy a PS4. SMT P5 and FFXV. I don't know why but I don't feel very interested in other exclusives like bloodborne or Uncharted 4.

But hey.. what about the PS3 version of Persona 5? I didn't read anything about the diferences between PS3 and PS4 versions of the game.

If sony would have spent on Vita games at least 1/8 of the budget that they usually invest on advertising... well but Vita is nice. It has one of the all time best remastered videogames: P4 Golden. Anda many manyy great japanese devs working on and japanese exclusive games. Ok many of those games are currently beign ported to steam but were exclusives for many years

sry for my bad english!

I still have my PSP, which I'd still play if I hadn't packed all my games in a box during some house renovations, and now I can't find the box. I've been looking for it on and off for years. :(

So, the Vita will pass me by. I'll use my 3DS and GPD XD for handheld gaming purposes until I find those games, at which point the PSP will be restored to its rightful place in my pantheon of handheld gaming devices.

*grimly determined*