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amok: I see, so the people who already owned it at steam got a discount. I have it at Origin, and so I never did get a discount.

KoA was never sold here, so impossible to provide the same discount, and it was not possible to verify ownership. To be honest, this seems fair to me, and creating s system just to verify if you own the game or not just for having a -50% of a game seems like it is not worth the development time it would take. Not sure what the problem is here

It is also not correct that steam had 60% off KoA (or even 50% as you say now) , it only applied to those who already owned the game there before. I, for example, did not have that discount. Nor anyone else who had not bought it on Steam before
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nightcraw1er.488: It was possible to check, several options were given in threads at the time. Second it is irrelevant, what is relevant is that we on gog did not get the Pringles nor got the discount, so we have lost out twice. Preventing access to the original game is not an reason for charging double for other groups. Not sure why that is so hard to understand, it’s simple, we got screwed twice.
not really.. it was a discount for a store specific item for those who had an item already in that store. you did not get 'screwed twice' you did not get screwed even once.... you get what everyone else got. as said, I do not feel screwed once or twice, and I owned and have played KoA since.... when did the original come out?

for those who did not already own the game on Steam before, be they Steam users or gOg users, payed the exact same price. tand the armchair coders most of the time have no idea what they are talking about, and no matter how easy - it still need to be implemented which means an extra cost.... an extra cost to make a game cheaper for a few of you.... I wonder why they did not do it.....

I don't use the word often, but right now 'entitlement' floats around on the top of my head. and I shake my head at wonder about people....
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Lifthrasil: Basically GOG made themselves irrelevant. There is no reason anymore to buy here and not on Steam or Epic. If one is willing to accept DRM, buying here isn't necessary anymore. And if one isn't willing to accept DRM, one has to move away from here to stores that still are DRM-free.
What if one dislikes DRM, prefers drm free installers if available, but is also willing to "make games drm free after buying" if need be?

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Lifthrasil: Well, I already decided not to buy here anymore following GOG's refusal to fix this:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/no_mans_sky_isnt_fully_drmfree/page1
Don't wanna read through an entire thread if I can help it(I have slight ocd, so would feel compelled to read the entire thread)....could you maybe perhaps give me a short summary(here or via pm if need be) of what that was all about?
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nightcraw1er.488: So let me check. You are ok with there being a two tier system where those who want drm free are second class customers? You are happy with GOG loudly proclaiming across the internet how they are against drm, and yet now sell drm’d games. And your happy that galaxy is no so foundational to gogs existence that there really isn’t anything but that? And your happy that someone like epic, who could just buy GOG for the old games market share now has its claws in?
I mean, let's but honest those who want DRM Free have always been second class customers ... there is an entire thread about companies treating us like second class customers. You are surely not going to change this by keeping the status quo.
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GameN16bit: I mean, let's but honest those who want DRM Free have always been second class customers ... there is an entire thread about companies treating us like second class customers. You are surely not going to change this by keeping the status quo.
I myself wish all games would be drm free, for preservation's sake and ease of use and more.....but sadly that's likely never going to be the case.
GOG won't change the path they are on ... too late for that now.

I'd written a whole lot more, but then thought - WHAT'S THE POINT!

Clearly they have been forced to take a desperate road, I just hope there is something decent left of GOG in the end.

GOG are the DRM-Free poster child, and if they fail it will be all over, and never happen again at that scale ... DRM would have won for the conceivable future.

Anyway, for now I will hang on to hope.
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GamesRater: Don't wanna read through an entire thread if I can help it(I have slight ocd, so would feel compelled to read the entire thread)....could you maybe perhaps give me a short summary(here or via pm if need be) of what that was all about?
No Man's Sky added some content via updates into the Singleplayer game that only works with an online connection via Galaxy. So they basically added DRM for a part of the Singleplayer game through a patch. And GOG refuses to adress or even acknowlede the problem. Support ignores all tickets concerning this DRM-adding update.
I remember reading about this on TechPowerup in july, is a 3 months old news.
At the time I thought: "Wow this is a big deal" then came on the forum and no thread were to be found about that here on General discussion.

Why the sh*t storm is happening only right now?

I feel like GOG selling Epic Store Games through Galaxy is confusing to me, I mean, someone buys game then what? Has to download The Epic Games Launcher? Is the game going to belong to the GOG library, Epic's, both?
Do GOG want to abandon their DRM free policy?

It would be nice if GOG came here to clarify and answer all the questions asked here, tho.
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Judicat0r: Do GOG want to abandon their DRM free policy?
https://i.redd.it/juil94ff2rm41.jpg
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Judicat0r: I feel like GOG selling Epic Store Games through Galaxy is confusing to me, I mean, someone buys game then what? Has to download The Epic Games Launcher? Is the game going to belong to the GOG library, Epic's, both?
Have you ever bought a Uplay game on Steam?
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Judicat0r: It would be nice if GOG came here to clarify and answer all the questions asked here, tho.
I agree. It reeks. The announcement was made in a Galaxy forum (and not mentioning Epic by name) as well as a Reddit thread (also not mentioning Epic by name). Chandra from GOG participated in the Reddit thread. Isn't it interesting how they are avoiding the main forum on their official site?
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Judicat0r: I feel like GOG selling Epic Store Games through Galaxy is confusing to me, I mean, someone buys game then what? Has to download The Epic Games Launcher? Is the game going to belong to the GOG library, Epic's, both?
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PLASMA97: Have you ever bought a Uplay game on Steam?
Yep, that's probably it.
Buy a game on Steam that requires UPlay, now you have to deal w/ both launchers.

I'm guessing - Galaxy will work the same with Epic. Buy a game on Galaxy, now you have to also use Epic.

There are a few instances, though - where this is not the case. The below could happen too.

Some G4WL games on Steam - after downloading game via Steam, you don't even have to boot Steam no more to run that game. Namely, you just deal w/ G4WL if you boot directly from the game's folder directly via the actual game's EXE itself, if it doesn't have CEG/Steamworks attached to the EXE. I wonder if in GOG Galaxy's situation, this could be similar - once you buy an Epic Game even via GOG Galaxy, is it possible now you just deal w/ it on the Epic Store only if you want to?

A lot of Ubi games if bought from Epic - buy from Epic; link UPLAY account on Epic; and then you can only deal w/ Uplay if you want. Worked like this for me for the "meh" GR: Breakpoint.
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Judicat0r: I feel like GOG selling Epic Store Games through Galaxy is confusing to me, I mean, someone buys game then what? Has to download The Epic Games Launcher?
Most likely, yes. Galaxy is only used as a store front, not delivery system, for Epic games.
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Judicat0r: Is the game going to belong to the GOG library, Epic's, both?
It belongs to Epic's library only, which Glalaxy then links into. In fact, Galaxy was doing this already, as well as linking into your library at Steam, Origin, UBIStore... and some others? The only difference is that you can not buy games directly from Galaxy at those stores, but as soon as you buy them at the different store fronts, Galaxy links up to them.

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Judicat0r: Do GOG want to abandon their DRM free policy?
No, the games sold at gOg are still DRM free
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Judicat0r: It would be nice if GOG came here to clarify and answer all the questions asked here, tho.
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rjbuffchix: I agree. It reeks. The announcement was made in a Galaxy forum (and not mentioning Epic by name) as well as a Reddit thread (also not mentioning Epic by name). Chandra from GOG participated in the Reddit thread. Isn't it interesting how they are avoiding the main forum on their official site?
Very much.

I came by it while browsing hardware news and it clearly mentions GOG inviting Epic and, my guess, maybe the reluctant others.

I'm just waiting for an official word so that everybody can take an informed decision.

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PLASMA97: Have you ever bought a Uplay game on Steam?
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MysterD: Yep, that's probably it.
Buy a game on Steam that requires UPlay, now you have to deal w/ both launchers.

I'm guessing - Galaxy will work the same with Epic. Buy a game on Galaxy, now you have to also use Epic.

There are a few instances, though - where this is not the case. The below could happen too.

Some G4WL games on Steam - after downloading game via Steam, you don't even have to boot Steam no more to run that game. Namely, you just deal w/ G4WL if you boot directly from the game's folder directly via the actual game's EXE itself, if it doesn't have CEG/Steamworks attached to the EXE. I wonder if in GOG Galaxy's situation, this could be similar - once you buy an Epic Game even via GOG Galaxy, is it possible now you just deal w/ it on the Epic Store only if you want to?

A lot of Ubi games if bought from Epic - buy from Epic; link UPLAY account on Epic; and then you can only deal w/ Uplay if you want. Worked like this for me for the "meh" GR: Breakpoint.
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Judicat0r: I feel like GOG selling Epic Store Games through Galaxy is confusing to me, I mean, someone buys game then what? Has to download The Epic Games Launcher?
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amok: Most likely, yes. Galaxy is only used as a store front, not delivery system, for Epic games.
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Judicat0r: Is the game going to belong to the GOG library, Epic's, both?
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amok: It belongs to Epic's library only, which Glalaxy then links into. In fact, Galaxy was doing this already, as well as linking into your library at Steam, Origin, UBIStore... and some others? The only difference is that you can not buy games directly from Galaxy at those stores, but as soon as you buy them at the different store fronts, Galaxy links up to them.

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Judicat0r: Do GOG want to abandon their DRM free policy?
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amok: No, the games sold at gOg are still DRM free
Thanks both for the explanations.
Post edited October 02, 2020 by Judicat0r
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I don't use Epic , i don't use Galaxy .
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i_hope_you_rot: I don't use Epic , i don't use Galaxy .
I do use butter