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It’s an adventure strategy game about conquering fear and taking risks. The risk to be caught by a military regime, looking for people who publicly stand against their point of view. The risk of losing everything, including our loved ones.

Through the Darkest of Times from HandyGames is now available DRM-free on GOG.COM.
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rjbuffchix: I wonder what the "proper" approach is. In the Commandos 2 HD threads, many people are up in arms over the censorship (which may be able to be fixed by the user, according to a review I read). In this thread, many people are up in arms about the mere idea of the player choosing to play a certain way (likely heightened by the fact the symbols are in this game). Wacky thought...how about we all focus more on the games themselves than on nationalism of any kind?
It seems(in regards to games) people dislike censorship as long as it is censorship they are against(so censoring of pc stances/etc, for example).....and if it's censoring of "icky' things in history or people not being able to play as bad people in such games then some seem to be fine with it.

And agreed....I just wish someone would answer my question already(I was actually somewhat genuinely asking in that first post).
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GOG.com: It’s an adventure strategy game about conquering fear and taking risks. The risk to be caught by a military regime, looking for people who publicly stand against their point of view. The risk of losing everything, including our loved ones.

Through the Darkest of Times from HandyGames is now available DRM-free on GOG.COM.
Shame on you, GOG. For selling this garbage, and for behaving like craven cowards.
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GameRager: It seems(in regards to games) people dislike censorship as long as it is censorship they are against.....and if it's censoring of "icky' things in history or people not being able to play as bad people in such games then some seem to be fine with it.

And agreed....I just wish someone would answer my question already(I was actually somewhat genuinely asking in that first post).
I agree with your assessment and am curious too. Any buyers who can report back?
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rjbuffchix: I wonder what the "proper" approach is. In the Commandos 2 HD threads, many people are up in arms over the censorship (which may be able to be fixed by the user, according to a review I read). In this thread, many people are up in arms about the mere idea of the player choosing to play a certain way (likely heightened by the fact the symbols are in this game). Wacky thought...how about we all focus more on the games themselves than on nationalism of any kind?
If we can't talk about Nazi Germany, why the hell are they selling this shit? o.O
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rjbuffchix: I wonder what the "proper" approach is. In the Commandos 2 HD threads, many people are up in arms over the censorship (which may be able to be fixed by the user, according to a review I read). In this thread, many people are up in arms about the mere idea of the player choosing to play a certain way (likely heightened by the fact the symbols are in this game). Wacky thought...how about we all focus more on the games themselves than on nationalism of any kind?
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richlind33: If we can't talk about N*zi Germany, why the hell are they selling this shit? o.O
I've been finding myself agreeing with most of your posts in this topic but have to say I'm a little confused here. What exactly are you objecting to here? The censoring of Commandos? As far as I understand, that wasn't GOG's doing, it was the developer(or publisher? I don't know).
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richlind33: If we can't talk about N*zi Germany, why the hell are they selling this sh*t? o.O
That's the odd thing: Talk on game politics/political systems/politics related to a game is fine, yet posts on said politics in said game are seemingly not fine(those by others, I mean, not by me....mine seem to be fine for now)...not the ones which were spamming one word over and over/etc, btw, but actual posts discussing the ideas on the game as they relate to it and our world....I think around half the thread is now gone. o.0
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richlind33: If we can't talk about N*zi Germany, why the hell are they selling this shit? o.O
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rjbuffchix: I've been finding myself agreeing with most of your posts in this topic but have to say I'm a little confused here. What exactly are you objecting to here? The censoring of Commandos? As far as I understand, that wasn't GOG's doing, it was the developer(or publisher? I don't know).
It's an incredibly one-dimensional representation of what actually occurred, so for someone that understands what really happened, it's outrageous. If this is acceptable then ANYTHING should be acceptable, and I mean that. It's a disgrace.
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rjbuffchix: I've been finding myself agreeing with most of your posts in this topic but have to say I'm a little confused here. What exactly are you objecting to here? The censoring of Commandos? As far as I understand, that wasn't GOG's doing, it was the developer(or publisher? I don't know).
He means how those posts discussing the bad guys/events in this game as they relate to it and our world have started disappearing in droves(along with a few actual bad posts as well, which tbh I am glad to see gone).

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rjbuffchix: I agree with your assessment and am curious too. Any buyers who can report back?
From the pictures it seems likely one cannot play a bad guy/gal in this game, as the devs seem to want to not allow it for some reason...though I could be wrong.

Hmm, maybe it'll be moddable?
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Note to all others: I don't want to play a jackboot, if that's what anyone thinks....I just want to have the option to act in a self interested and motivated way(greed/etc) if I felt like it. I can do it in many other games(GTA series, as but one example) so why not here?
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rjbuffchix: I've been finding myself agreeing with most of your posts in this topic but have to say I'm a little confused here. What exactly are you objecting to here? The censoring of Commandos? As far as I understand, that wasn't GOG's doing, it was the developer(or publisher? I don't know).
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richlind33: It's an incredibly one-dimensional representation of what actually occurred, so for someone that understands what really happened, it's outrageous. If this is acceptable then ANYTHING should be acceptable, and I mean that. It's a disgrace.
Ah. Thanks for the clarity, I think I understand what you're saying now about this game.
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GameRager: Hmm, maybe it'll be moddable?
Hmmm, seems to me a large scale "new faction" type of gameplay like that would be more likely something the developer would have to implement but I'm not familiar with how this game plays.
Post edited February 01, 2020 by rjbuffchix
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Ladies and Gentlemen, here's a friendly reminder from one of your community moderators.

Real life politics isn't for this forum, except in so far as it is directly related to a game.

I've cleaned up the thread. Please try to keep it clean so I can play Master of Magic instead of deleting posts.
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rjbuffchix: Hmmm, seems to me a large scale "new faction" type of gameplay like that would be more likely something the developer would have to implement but I'm not familiar with how this game plays.
Not even factions would be needed, imo....just moral choices as one plays affecting various minor things here and there.
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Bookwyrm627: Ladies and Gentlemen, here's a friendly reminder from one of your community moderators.

Real life politics isn't for this forum, except in so far as it is directly related to a game.
But(serious question) aren't IRL politics(albeit from decades ago) what this game is about?

That question aside: I will stick to talking about the game/aspects of said game as requested.

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Bookwyrm627: I've cleaned up the thread. Please try to keep it clean so I can play Master of Magic instead of deleting posts.
Great game....I hope you're enjoying it when you can get to it.
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Bookwyrm627: Ladies and Gentlemen, here's a friendly reminder from one of your community moderators.

Real life politics isn't for this forum, except in so far as it is directly related to a game.
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GameRager: But(serious question) aren't IRL politics(albeit from decades ago) what this game is about?
Caveat: I've barely read the game page, and I don't know any particulars about the game beyond what I've read. That said, it does appear to be based being part of some resistance movement in Nazi Germany.

If you want to ask about whether the game lets you play as a Nazi, that's fine. It directly relates to the game.

If you want to go into goods versus ills of allowing someone to play as a Nazi, then I'm going to scrutinize it but I might leave it alone.

If you want to have a discussion about what does and does not constitute socialism, or varieties of socialism, then as a mod I also want to see how that relates to the game. Otherwise, please take it to PM or some more appropriate venue of discussion.
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Bookwyrm627: Caveat: I've barely read the game page, and I don't know any particulars about the game beyond what I've read. That said, it does appear to be based being part of some resistance movement in Nazi Germany.

If you want to ask about whether the game lets you play as a Nazi, that's fine. It directly relates to the game.
To be clear I was just asking if one could play as a "bad" person, or self interested(i.e. maybe greed motivated/etc) in game, not a n*zi(Just wanted that bit to be clear in case anyone thinks or thought the worst).

Also fair enough.

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Bookwyrm627: If you want to go into goods versus ills of allowing someone to play as a Nazi, then I'm going to scrutinize it but I might leave it alone.
Sounds fair.

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Bookwyrm627: If you want to have a discussion about what does and does not constitute socialism, or varieties of socialism, then as a mod I also want to see how that relates to the game. Otherwise, please take it to PM or some more appropriate venue of discussion.
Also fair....glad to see you're reasonable. :)

Also thanks for cleaning up the actual bad posts/spammy posts(like the one that spammed one word over and over).
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richlind33: It's an incredibly one-dimensional representation of what actually occurred, so for someone that understands what really happened, it's outrageous. If this is acceptable then ANYTHING should be acceptable, and I mean that. It's a disgrace.
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rjbuffchix: Ah. Thanks for the clarity, I think I understand what you're saying now about this game.
Imagine if this "game" was about Germans being subjected to atrocities by the Allied victors, would it be here?

Nothing I hate more than double standards. o.O
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richlind33: Imagine if this "game" was about Germans being subjected to atrocities by the Allied victors, would it be here?
If that sort of game was made in the "potterverse" it'd likely be in the restricted section......can't have some aspects of some events known to all, ya know....it messes with the narrative.

If such a game were made HERE(our world) i'd likely like to see such as it'd be refreshing to see the good and bad on both sides of such events in a game or piece of media, and i'd gladly shell out a few bucks for such to support such brave devs.
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David9855: Nothing I hate more than double standards. o.O
Look at it from a "positive" side: You get two standards for the price of one. ;)