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This thread makes me wonder if peoples really understand WHY DRM-free is important; DRM-free is important because things like that happens and will continue to happen in the future, period. Gog, like any other online shop, is at the mercy or developers, right owners or even law changes, not to mention they could go bankrupt or be bought by another company.

DRM-free gives you the possibility to backup a specific version of your game and have the guarantee that nobody will be able to remove said version from your procession. It doesn't matter if the game is updated, censored, or totally removed as long as you have your DRM-free backup then you are safe and if you don't then it's on you.

If there was any online shop where you were 100% sure that a game you purchased will always be available without any unwanted alteration then DRM-free would be mostly useless.
This completely 100% destroys your reputation, GOG. There is now no credibility to the claim of games preservation, and there is no reason or incentive to buy anything here over Steam. What are you going to do about? At least make a statement. Damage control. Tick tock!
Post edited October 08, 2024 by 12thPower
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Gersen: DRM-free gives you the possibility to backup a specific version of your game and have the guarantee that nobody will be able to remove said version from your procession. It doesn't matter if the game is updated, censored, or totally removed as long as you have your DRM-free backup then you are safe and if you don't then it's on you.
That's assuming someone is around to purchase the game while it's sold unaltered and DRM-free. A number of those not born yet/not old enough to make a purchase would still be out of luck in a number of instances.
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UCrest: [i]I don't understand why people ask for remasters, remakes or new ports of games that don't need it. Saints Row 2 is a video game that doesn't need a remake, remaster or a new port.
I'd fully agree with games like Horizon Zero Dawn, the first PC port of which was perfectly fine, but Saints Row 2 on PC? That's a truly bad port that I never got to run smoothly even with Gentlemen of the Row mod. Kept crashing on me and that's just no fun with the savegame system it has. Classics don't really need graphical updates or gameplay changes, but it would be nice if you could run them smoothly, at least.
Post edited October 08, 2024 by Leroux
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paladin181: They're supposed to not remove games from our library.

Do you pay my bills? No? Then don't tell me how to spend my paychecks.
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Syphon72: Okay, technically, they didn't remove the game from your library. Both games are the same, except for the dumb EOS bull needed to play multiplayer. I've played both versions, and they even have the same frustrating bugs, graphics, and other bull.

Re-relation is more of a terrible update than actually remaster. I have seen updates from Grim Dawn change more things than Re-relaction. The fact you can even roll back to the GOTC version kind proves Re-relaction is more of update.

I'm not telling you how to spend your money. I have bills to pay in addition to a house payment. Right now, I'm the only income, and I can still afford a cheap 5TB for $130.

Just advice: I would get 2TB HD so you have extra backup space.
5TB won't cover my library. But thanks for the advice. I never thought to buy more storage before, especially when I already have a 4TB and 6TB external HDD.
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GamezRanker: That's assuming someone is around to purchase the game while it's sold unaltered and DRM-free. A number of those not born yet/not old enough to make a purchase would still be out of luck in a number of instances.
Yes, but that's the risk with all digital goods. Sadly for now there is not really that much real solution to ensure preservation of digital goods apart from individual initiative. (thanks to outdated copyright laws). And as I said, no matter what their marketing might pretend, you cannot expect an online shop to do it, they can make things easier by releasing games DRM-free but at the end of the day they still follow the same rules than anybody else.
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wolfsite: Not supporting Win 7 is pretty normal as not even Microsoft supports it which makes it vulnerable if you go online.
Normal and expected for new releases, but customers should be allowed to download the latest version that is still compatible with whatever operating systems this or that game was claimed to be compatible with when they had bought it.

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Syphon72: Just advice: I would get 2TB HD so you have extra backup space.
That is not going to last very long for anyone with over a dozen hundred games and not enough free time to properly verify which of the older installers can be safely deleted without losing any last versions to still run on this or that old OS or are in some other ways far more relevant to keep around than most old versions.

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ReynardFox: No longer selling an older version of a game due to contractual obligation is one thing, but that shouldn't allow you to steal a game from my library.
This, if sold me a game when it was still claimed to run with Windows 7, no future update should be allowed to break compatibility to that OS without the previous version permanently becoming an unsupported extra.
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Syphon72: Okay, technically, they didn't remove the game from your library. Both games are the same, except for the dumb EOS bull needed to play multiplayer. I've played both versions, and they even have the same frustrating bugs, graphics, and other bull.

Re-relation is more of a terrible update than actually remaster. I have seen updates from Grim Dawn change more things than Re-relaction. The fact you can even roll back to the GOTC version kind proves Re-relaction is more of update.

I'm not telling you how to spend your money. I have bills to pay in addition to a house payment. Right now, I'm the only income, and I can still afford a cheap 5TB for $130.

Just advice: I would get 2TB HD so you have extra backup space.
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paladin181: 5TB won't cover my library. But thanks for the advice. I never thought to buy more storage before, especially when I already have a 4TB and 6TB external HDD.
You must have more games than me. I used 8TB and 5TB external HD. I still have plenty of space for now. Hope you get to eventually get everything backup again in future.
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Syphon72: Just advice: I would get 2TB HD so you have extra backup space.
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JAAHAS: That is not going to last very long for anyone with over a dozen hundred games and not enough free time to properly verify which of the older installers can be safely deleted without losing any last versions to still run on this or that old OS or are in some other ways far more relevant to keep around than most old versions.

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ReynardFox: No longer selling an older version of a game due to contractual obligation is one thing, but that shouldn't allow you to steal a game from my library.
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JAAHAS:
I was talking more about if he was low on money but needed more space. 2Tb would hold him over for little while.
Preservation means more of a let's jump on a buzzword bandwagon than a motto, or business strategy.


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12thPower: This completely 100% destroys your reputation, GOG. There is now no credibility to the claim of games preservation, and there is no reason or incentive to buy anything here over Steam. What are you going to do about? At least make a statement. Damage control. Tick tock!
Stuff like this keeps happening and is the reason to buy on GOG, you backup your games for eternity and beyond...

Blade Runner may have got a bit more attention on the influencer's network, they only made the old version available after some outcry.

In this case might not be GOG's fault at all but it happened with CDPR's The Witcher 3 UnReAl NeW gEn ++ ReMaStErEd RaY TrAcInG something something. It got add to the extras section after major outcry on, well, the influencer's network...
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micktiegs_8: (...) This (be it small) sets a precedent for trust breaching.
I completely agree with you. It is a breach of trust, and no matter how many clauses there are in the middle where you agree to accept changes from the developer, publisher or GOG itself, the fact is that this is an overreach that can lead to a violation of consumer law.

And, perhaps GOG has no share of responsibility for this. But how is this kind of thing allowed on the platform?
I don't understand it.
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UCrest: [i]I don't understand why people ask for remasters, remakes or new ports of games that don't need it. Saints Row 2 is a video game that doesn't need a remake, remaster or a new port.
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Leroux: I'd fully agree with games like Horizon Zero Dawn, the first PC port of which was perfectly fine, but Saints Row 2 on PC? That's a truly bad port that I never got to run smoothly even with Gentlemen of the Row mod. Kept crashing on me and that's just no fun with the savegame system it has. Classics don't really need graphical updates or gameplay changes, but it would be nice if you could run them smoothly, at least.
I fully agree with your comment. But companies (unfortunately) the least they do is fix their games (when they are released broken). And, least of all for the times we live in. It's rare to see a company today so committed to their customer community that they care so much about releasing games without bugs or fixing them as fast as possible. :)

I sincerely miss the days when a game came out of the box in version 1.0 with no bugs or serious glitches. And when patches were created more to apply improvements to the product than to fix bugs that should have been fixed before releasing ‘’x‘’ product to the public. :'(

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12thPower: This completely 100% destroys your reputation, GOG. There is now no credibility to the claim of games preservation, and there is no reason or incentive to buy anything here over Steam. What are you going to do about? At least make a statement. Damage control. Tick tock!
I don't think anything will be done to solve the problem. A pity, really. :(
Post edited October 08, 2024 by UCrest
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00063: Screw you! I demand the stolen Game of the Century Edition that i paid for back! You A-holes actually went as far as to change the receipt, I DID NOT BUY Re-Elected garbage!

Right now there is NO WAY to download the old version!
Just a piece of advice : Try to reach the support and ask a temporary FTP access to download the previous version, if this version is still presents on their servers. That's how i managed to D/L it years ago. I can't guarantee this version is still on their servers at this point of time though.

I agree the previous version should be available in extras (web user library). But i guess it's not depends entirely to GOG.... i could be wrong however since i know the web user library is not very well supported.
Post edited October 08, 2024 by DyNaer
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Syphon72: You must have more games than me. I used 8TB and 5TB external HD. I still have plenty of space for now. Hope you get to eventually get everything backup again in future.
Appreciate the comment, for real this time, even iif we both know I don't j\have MORE games, I may have other needs for storage usage as well.
Post edited October 08, 2024 by paladin181
Will this affect those of us that already bought the uncensored version.
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UCrest: I don't understand why people ask for remasters, remakes or new ports of games that don't need it. Saints Row 2 is a video game that doesn't need a remake, remaster or a new port. And, as the industry currently stands, the truth is that far from seeing improvements you find, instead, additions that contribute nothing to aspects such as story or gameplay.
Yes it does. Saints row 2 is completely broken on PC
Post edited October 08, 2024 by Magmarock