So Sable looks good but sadly till I know just what if anything is locked behind drm after G.O.G's blunder the other day I can't bring myself to buy it sorry devs and studio you got caught in the crossfire

So GOG isn't responsible for what is being sold by GOG. I guess publishers just sneak in their games at night and superglue them to GOG's servers. Poor GOG, utterly helpless, forced to sell DRMed games. Sure, why not. I've heard so many stupid defences of selling DRMed products here, why not that. Just because it's completely insane is no reason I guess.

It doesn't matter how hard or easy it is. It's entirely irrelevant. GOG is supposed to be selling DRM-free games, not DRM-free-except-for-when-it's-too-much-of-a-bother games.

Yes, and a hamburger is meat-free except for the parts with the meat.

It looks like a tribute to Moebius style! This makes me very curious and might move it in front of THE BACKLOG™.

and even then, that's not cool.

the cosmetic stuff IS part and parcel of the game, also.

so even just locking that behind a drm wall isn't great.
my quibble with this is:

io COULD.

io chose not to.

it would just take time for them to deal with, and they didn't.

gog is obviously at fault here, but io is also.

The portion with those features, as I said several times now, is part of an online service model that is still active and maintained. GOGs choices would be remove it (the answer would probably be no) or not have the game here.

As much as I would love to have all those features truly DRM free you cant honestly think it a reasonable request have IO rewrite the games core code and that of their on line service to supply something they dont supply at all the other store fronts? Especially when it is a currently active service.

This is not the only game here like this. Looking at Dying light and many Paradox games, as well as a few others. All with features tied to online servers. GOG is in a strong position but not so strong that they can enforce the rewriting of the games structure.

They have done so on occasion for older games as those services are no longer functional. In this case though the expectation that they do so for these newer games with active services feels on the unrealistic side.

It is one of the prices to pay for getting newer games here that have these service models intact. GOG is doing a balancing act.

Of course, yes, IO chooses not to do it. GOG allowed that because it means bringing another game here or not.

In the future it is possible IO will change it but I would net expect to see it for some time as it is an active online service tied to their servers. In an ideal world every thing should be DRM free completely but the reality is these services are tied to being online.

Maybe GOG will take the feed back and convince IO to change the weapon progression thing. My main point in countering is not so much in defense of IO or GOG but to think realistically about what these requests and criticisms en tale and the methods of people doing the criticizing.

That is all. It becomes tiresome reading constantly and I was triggered by it.

I usually avoid the forums for just this reason.

Yay to not having it here since it does not belong here in the current state anywhere. The only advantage the GOG version has to the others out there (one of them was given away for free btw) is the fact that it does not need a launcher (although I am not sure yet if the game only requires always online or also Galaxy as well to be playable "complete"). So in theory the GOG version would be the better one since it does not need a launcher ... however for it to wotk completely I still need to be connected and still am in the danger of losing part of my game whenever I can't connect anymore ... same as weith Epic - same as with Steam. So why pay 18 bucks for a game with zero advantage over the other ones? For me the advantage of GOG always was DRM-Free and the advantage of DRM-Free for me always was to be sure to be able to play wherever and whenever I wanted.

Yes, and that's exactly what everyone sane is demanding - that the game not be sold here. Your logic is like saying that serving meat in a vegan restaurant is ok for meals that have to include meat. Well then you restaurant is not vegan, is it? Why should any publisher bother to remove DRM for any GOG release, if apparently they can sell it here with DRM anyway?

No, it really goddamn isn't. If the game cannot be (or if the developer simply will not) detached from it's heavy online requirements then it is not fit for purpose on this site. End of story. If curation had even a shred of integrity, the game should have been rejected.

All progression and unlockables in this game are locked behind DRM, so no, no part of this game is truly DRM free, the core experience is crippled.

Stop trying to justify this insulting garbage. You can't.

I never liked those 3D games that screw up the visuals with cartoony outlines. It doesn't look hand-drawn, it just looks like 3D with some cheap shaders thrown on top.

This one, though, it looks straight out of an Moebius comic. Very exited!

I don't care about Hitman. Hitman is irrelevant. This is the discussion for the release of Sable.

And the question still stands:

What portions of Sable are locked behind DRM or online activations? We need full disclosure.


Because this statement
"DRM FREE. No activation or online connection required to play."
Just isn't good enough anymore.

Sure these services are tied to being online - but converting an online system to a system where the online portions effectively run from the user's local PC is actually surprisingly easy. Many FPS game engines technically spin up a "server" on the local PC which the "client" then connects to, for example.

This should be 100% on the developer though, not GOG - they made the game, they should bundle it up properly.

HOWEVER, since GOG is apparently a "DRM-free" store, IMO GOG should not offer a game containing DRM for sale, where said DRM is required to play any part of the game (which includes "online only" stuff that may technically not be classified as DRM, but pretty much acts like it due to online-only).

Until this happens, all we can do is not buy the game and complain in forums. Unfortunately as long as they continue to profit from this online-only crap they''ll continue to get away with it.

Agreed. I would also like to know what the drm status is for this game. There are no community reviews on it for GOG yet.

exactly this!

There are 2 reasons I buy games from GOG and one is zero dependencies on an internet connection during gameplay.

Is this with drm too?
Of course I cannot trust gog anymore.
Gog is dead