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TheGrimLord
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Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
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Your hobby is destroyed, sir. It is over. I had a hentai channel on YouTube a couple of days ago until they removed not only the channel, but hundreds of videos of content. I didn't even show the hentai. I removed the scenes and still had fans from all over the world. I didn't even get a second strike and only received warnings for links, not the content.
Why did this happen? It's because progressives are in charge now. You can keep denying it, but it is over. This is the decline, especially here in the states. I say at the end of all my political videos, "enjoy the decline" because it is over. We're watching it burn. You think you can save it? Nah, the ship has sailed. It doesn't end with a bang, it ends with a whimper. Just be glad it hasn't fully collapsed yet and censored anime games are the most of your worries right now. You may be worried about food later on and you can't eat games. I live in a small southern town and I can tell you that I have never seen food prices this high. It costs as much to get groceries as it does to go to a restaurant. None of this is good.
I did refund the game because it is an overpriced bad port, according to steam. I can use that $30 on something better.
Why did this happen? It's because progressives are in charge now. You can keep denying it, but it is over. This is the decline, especially here in the states. I say at the end of all my political videos, "enjoy the decline" because it is over. We're watching it burn. You think you can save it? Nah, the ship has sailed. It doesn't end with a bang, it ends with a whimper. Just be glad it hasn't fully collapsed yet and censored anime games are the most of your worries right now. You may be worried about food later on and you can't eat games. I live in a small southern town and I can tell you that I have never seen food prices this high. It costs as much to get groceries as it does to go to a restaurant. None of this is good.
I did refund the game because it is an overpriced bad port, according to steam. I can use that $30 on something better.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by TheGrimLord

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland
Posted January 14, 2022
As I said in the coming soon thread, this normally would have been a sure buy for me, but because of the censorship I pass.
That they censor it on PS4 I can understand because of how brain dead Sony is nowadays, but censoring it on PC, while the Switch is uncensored and even worse censoring the first one that is include; nope.
That they censor it on PS4 I can understand because of how brain dead Sony is nowadays, but censoring it on PC, while the Switch is uncensored and even worse censoring the first one that is include; nope.

TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
Censorship or not, you shouldn't be buying a bad port in general. This is really bare bones. Please go read the steam reviews. Even people who didn't care about the censorship are displeased with the port.

Unfallen_Satan
Old User
Registered: May 2012
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
It is so unfortunate that the discussion of the PC port is centered so much on the censorship. Minigame or not, Mary Skelter is a great dungeon crawler, and releaseing MS2 on PC is a great way to introduce more non-Japanese players to the series. Some may even want to play MS3 after that.
I think GOG and Ghostlight should just make clear of any censorship that exists on the store page. Everyone can take from that what they will. And bifurcate the discussion of the censorship from the discussion of the game generally.
I am 100% against what Sony did to this game and I think it is totally wrong on principle. However, I recognize this is a polarizing issue, not one of clear cut right and wrong. Some players appreciate not having to experience the sexualized minigame. Some may feel the minigame objectifies women and needs to go. It is a worthy cutural debate, just not one that should drown out the game.
And it may not matter for GOG anyway, if we get a fan patch that returns the game to its pre-PS4 patch glory.
I think GOG and Ghostlight should just make clear of any censorship that exists on the store page. Everyone can take from that what they will. And bifurcate the discussion of the censorship from the discussion of the game generally.
I am 100% against what Sony did to this game and I think it is totally wrong on principle. However, I recognize this is a polarizing issue, not one of clear cut right and wrong. Some players appreciate not having to experience the sexualized minigame. Some may feel the minigame objectifies women and needs to go. It is a worthy cutural debate, just not one that should drown out the game.
And it may not matter for GOG anyway, if we get a fan patch that returns the game to its pre-PS4 patch glory.

Ancient-Red-Dragon
"Many messages from gamers" = Fake News!
Registered: May 2017
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
low rated

Rather, the buck stops at the previous stage of analysis before that point, when one realizes that it's a censored garbage version.
Even the best port in the world couldn't redeem it from that horrible fate, and hence could never make it be worth supporting with one's money.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon

Keighn
New User
Registered: Aug 2017
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
Time to read steam reviews then. I can't understand cutting and censoring considering some of the other games that recently hit gog shelves.

Ancient-Red-Dragon
"Many messages from gamers" = Fake News!
Registered: May 2017
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
low rated
As for statements like "there may be a fan patch that restores the censored content:" statements like that are giving consumers false hope.
To make such a "fan patch" would require a very skilled person to reverse engineer the Switch version, and then reverse engineer the butchered Ghostlight version, and then mash his reverse engineered Switch version into his reverse engineered Ghostlight version.
To do that would take an extraordinary amount of time and energy and skill, and chances are pretty much zero that anyone who has the talent to do that would put in their labor to do it for free (and no one will be paying them to do it, either).
So no, there won't be any uncensored fan patches coming.
To make such a "fan patch" would require a very skilled person to reverse engineer the Switch version, and then reverse engineer the butchered Ghostlight version, and then mash his reverse engineered Switch version into his reverse engineered Ghostlight version.
To do that would take an extraordinary amount of time and energy and skill, and chances are pretty much zero that anyone who has the talent to do that would put in their labor to do it for free (and no one will be paying them to do it, either).
So no, there won't be any uncensored fan patches coming.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon

TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022

To make such a "fan patch" would require a very skilled person to reverse engineer the Switch version, and then reverse engineer the butchered Ghostlight version, and then mash his reversed engineered Switch version into his reverse engineered Ghostlight version.
That would take an extraordinary amount of time and and energy and skill, and chance are pretty much zero that anyone who has the talent to do that would put in their labor to do it for free (and no one will be paying them to do it, either).
So no, there won't be any uncensored fan patches coming.


Rather, the buck stops at the previous stage of analysis before that point, when one realizes that it's a censored garbage version.
Even the best port in the world couldn't redeem it from that horrible fate, and hence could never make it be worth supporting with one's money.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by TheGrimLord

REhorror
New User
Registered: Oct 2011
From Vietnam
Posted January 14, 2022
Bring back the information blurb!

Unfallen_Satan
Old User
Registered: May 2012
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022

To make such a "fan patch" would require a very skilled person to reverse engineer the Switch version, and then reverse engineer the butchered Ghostlight version, and then mash his reverse engineered Switch version into his reverse engineered Ghostlight version.
To do that would take an extraordinary amount of time and energy and skill, and chances are pretty much zero that anyone who has the talent to do that would put in their labor to do it for free (and no one will be paying them to do it, either).
So no, there won't be any uncensored fan patches coming.
Of course, Ghostlight could have removed the censored minigame, assets and all, from the PC port. Then you are right, it would be much harder. But I agree with TheGrimLord. Some dedicated players are probably working to extract that minigame from the Switch version (or maybe even the PS4 version) from the game files and working to integrate it back to into the game.
It is in Ghostlight's best interest to use the cheap censorship patch I discussed initially, if possible. I mean, they could be releasing the censored version for some legal or contractual reasons. But they need not pissed off so many gamers by going out of their way to make decensoring difficult or impossible.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by Unfallen_Satan

Slash Vohaul
New User
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022

Why did this happen? It's because progressives are in charge now. You can keep denying it, but it is over. This is the decline, especially here in the states. I say at the end of all my political videos, "enjoy the decline" because it is over. We're watching it burn. You think you can save it? Nah, the ship has sailed. It doesn't end with a bang, it ends with a whimper. Just be glad it hasn't fully collapsed yet and censored anime games are the most of your worries right now. You may be worried about food later on and you can't eat games. I live in a small southern town and I can tell you that I have never seen food prices this high. It costs as much to get groceries as it does to go to a restaurant. None of this is good.
I did refund the game because it is an overpriced bad port, according to steam. I can use that $30 on something better.
Wrong is wrong. Full stop.
If your moral standards exist up to the point that you can effect change to a multi-billion dollar industry, or the people in charge listen to you and your opinion then you don't have any standard at all.
You say you won't buy it because it's a garbage port. So? You think you're going to have an impact on the quality of PC ports in the future? This is a niche title, they were never going to sell millions of these. This isn't Shin Megami Tensei V. The only thing this is going to show a company is that they won't bring over any more of the product. They just simply won't bother with anymore of these or any other games. That means the rest of us won't get a chance to play any of these games in English. And if they do, these companies are gonna put out garbage ports today just like they did back in the nineties and people still bought it!

TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022

Why did this happen? It's because progressives are in charge now. You can keep denying it, but it is over. This is the decline, especially here in the states. I say at the end of all my political videos, "enjoy the decline" because it is over. We're watching it burn. You think you can save it? Nah, the ship has sailed. It doesn't end with a bang, it ends with a whimper. Just be glad it hasn't fully collapsed yet and censored anime games are the most of your worries right now. You may be worried about food later on and you can't eat games. I live in a small southern town and I can tell you that I have never seen food prices this high. It costs as much to get groceries as it does to go to a restaurant. None of this is good.
I did refund the game because it is an overpriced bad port, according to steam. I can use that $30 on something better.

Wrong is wrong. Full stop.
If your moral standards exist up to the point that you can effect change to a multi-billion dollar industry, or the people in charge listen to you and your opinion then you don't have any standard at all.
You say you won't buy it because it's a garbage port. So? You think you're going to have an impact on the quality of PC ports in the future? This is a niche title, they were never going to sell millions of these. This isn't Shin Megami Tensei V. The only thing this is going to show a company is that they won't bring over any more of the product. They just simply won't bother with anymore of these or any other games. That means the rest of us won't get a chance to play any of these games in English. And if they do, these companies are gonna put out garbage ports today just like they did back in the nineties and people still bought it!
Post edited January 14, 2022 by TheGrimLord

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia
Posted January 14, 2022
I love blobbers but I don't like that kind of anime artyle, the eternal dilemma.

milkyhighway
big Fermi energy
Registered: Jun 2016
From Other
Posted January 14, 2022
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Post edited June 14, 2025 by milkyhighway

TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2022
According to the top reviewer on Steam who didn't even care about the mini game BTW, this port is absolute ass. This guy straight up dissected it and more or less says you are better dumping the rom of the game on Switch and playing it on Yuzu or Ryujin. He says everything runs better and the game generally looks better as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/KingKrouch/recommended/1496250
The guy is right now working on some fixes within the executable itself.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/KingKrouch/recommended/1496250
The guy is right now working on some fixes within the executable itself.
Post edited January 14, 2022 by TheGrimLord