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bler144: Were you suggesting I take your special tea blend as an abortifacient?

I'm conflicted - the feminist in me thinks that shows wisdom and respect for a woman's right to choose. Bradstreet was a feminist, after all, and I so want to be like her. But the 17th century Puritan in me thinks you're a horrible monster.
I have noooooooooo idea what you're talking about right now. Geezum crow.

I want you to make me some tea so I can stop puuuuUUUUGGGHAHGHGHHHKKKing all over the place.
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yogsloth: so I can stop puuuuUUUUGGGHAHGHGHHHKKKing all over the place.
Hairball?
Okay, just passed a little over halfway through now. So...much...text. I think an argument can be made for too much flavour :/. I might decide to start skipping unimportant looking posts, or maybe start reading backwards or from 5-6 pages ago.

Judging from the format, it DOES seem that not voting is the same as voting to not kill anyone, and it seems I had earlier decided to do either one or the other. It also seems I have 3 people on my train, but if I'm not mistaken, I'd need 5 more people to be lynched, and I don't think there are that many bad judges of character here.

Am still catching up!
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bler144: Hairball?
Of the dog that bit me.
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babark: I don't think there are that many bad judges of character here.
Technically a wagon takes 9 (maj of 16), and even then the guess is we go into sundown and hash out if that's where we want to end the day. But for all intents and purposes presume you're at L-6.

But don't give yourself too much credit here - it's not like your predecessor or you have actually done anything that looks townie yet. If anything you're likely to get some grace to do something good/bad. So it comes off as seeking leeway you haven't earned.

Still, I'm probably not going to vote you on the slim record of what doc had done/not done and my read is most people are inclined to at least see what you do first.

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yogsloth: Of the dog that bit me.
Listening to Nazareth?

So...seriously - you're the only one that's played with the 4 newcomers. Please at least give an analysis of those 4 that's more then "enhhh."
owowowowowowow

Vote babark
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bler144: Besides, you'd have sheer gameflow problems if that role died and you planned to actually punish people for making their own unofficial counts as you've implied here.
have faith

it'd be handled (:

PLAY ON!
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bler144: 1) So IIRC you're now reading Ix as "probably townie" so how does that fit into your analysis here? Or are you subtly proposing to lynch Stan as a backdoor way to possibly test Ix?

2) I would tooootally have abused that role. Can't lie.

3) I'm surprised he only asked you, considering he'd warned me off pretty sternly waaaay back.
1) This was a continuation of the discussion of my "Lynch Ix, then Stanari" post from before Ixam claimed. I'm not trying to subtly anything; quite the opposite. If you read my posts the first time, you might not need that re-read so badly. ;)

2) He might come to regret asking me to channel vote counts through him. O :D

3) To be fair, it was more of a "Don't do it", rather than a "Please don't do it". My warning just wasn't public.

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bler144: Those are fine high-falutin' ideals, but as a practical matter, if you're going to troll me with a nonsense role and hand me that godawful power, I'm going to troll the crap out of you right back. ;)

Besides, you'd have sheer gameflow problems if that role died and you planned to actually punish people for making their own unofficial counts as you've implied here.
This. So much this.

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bler144: Hairball?
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yogsloth: Of the dog that bit me.
Subtle. Anyone want to get modkilled for betting whether Yog is a Jester?
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bler144: So...seriously - you're the only one that's played with the 4 newcomers. Please at least give an analysis of those 4 that's more then "enhhh."
Stanari - It's no secret in the very beginning I wanted more from her. I think she's improving a lot though. She's not one to flip tables, I don't think, so I take her current high level of presence to be a positive sign. I'd still be around null on her though. Let's see how that babark vote developes.

Nacho - Acting pretty Town when he's here. Wish he were here. Note that I haven't really seen his Scum game, so I don't know what it would look like - but I imagine it is at a very high level. No read yet because of that.

Tammy - I only played the one game with her, and she seems to be about the same here. Not enough data to make a meta argument.

DragonSushi - I have more experience with him, but he's also a pretty top-shelf player. He fooled me hard in the GoT game where I had him as my #1 Town and WHOOPS he wasn't.

Fox - Wish I knew what happened to spark a meltdown over some pretty trivial and obvious shit. Sorry everybody.

...

The real thing is we need something to happen. We're stagnated, as always happens to us, but even more so with players used to a high pace, which now includes me.
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yogsloth: snip
Thanks

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Bookwyrm627: 1) I'm not trying to subtly anything; quite the opposite. If you read my posts the first time, you might not need that re-read so badly. ;)

2) Subtle. Anyone want to get modkilled for betting whether Yog is a Jester?
1) That's actually what I thought you were going for and wanted to clarify, was just taking care not to put words in your mouth. I did read, I just don't hang on every word you've previously said and filter it through vague impressions. ;)

2) I doubt it. Mostly because I don't think this is how he'd play jester, esp after I called him on several of the points. He could certainly have faked a "Oh no, I'm SK and you caught me!" bit, but he's just kept-on-keepin' on with whatever he was doing before.

I don't see how that plays for him as jester and think he'd work harder to be the D1 lynch. As a simple example, he could've teased coroner but didn't. Could be out role fishing, particularly on me, but isn't. Etc.
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bler144: I did read, I just don't hang on every word you've previously said
Well that's your first problem!!
whhooooouuuuuUUUUUUUUGhHHHGHHH

Jesus
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RWarehall: stuff... Ixam, are you sure you aren't just Neutral?
This will sound hypocritical, so probably is, since I've accused Ix of being a bit reckless more than carefully strategic, but if he's neutral thief, what's the upside in claiming "unspecified investigative" PR?

I do think there's an answer for that, btw, just curious if you thought about it and weighed how likely it was before asking. And yes, atm I've given up trying to read him and am trying to read you.

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yogsloth: The real thing is we need something to happen. We're stagnated, as always happens to us, but even more so with players used to a high pace, which now includes me.
I agree with this. I think we have to actually start congealing on something. Reeeeally want to push but feel like I do too much of that. But here's my overview:

My won't touch D1 list currently is:

Ix (though he still bears watching)
Wyrm
Brasas
cristi
Nacho
Tammy
trent
(self)

That's half. Of the 8 others:

Still think we don't learn much from lurker wagons if they flip town, but then we are down to 2 lurkers (Quad/Sushi) so POEing not the end of the world. If that's the direction we go, could at least run them side by side. I don't love it but it beats just cooling our heels and talking in circles until people get bored and wander off, or like me, blow out the tank on D1.

Gamestate and bottom half of the pile is a bit of a mess for me, but if not continuing to ride yogs' weirdness, probably 2-3 players I'd vote for over no lynch.

Please, collectively, let's not wait for drealmer to give us a deadline to start actually finding some inertia.

@RW: what do you propose? Not just your own vote, but collectively.
@Lift: what do you propose? Not just your own vote, but collectively.
@Nacho: what do you propose? Not just your own vote, but collectively.
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yogsloth: whhooooouuuuuUUUUUUUUGhHHHGHHH

Jesus
Zombie bears? Do you require assistance?
Elated I finally finished reading Wyrm and Nacho. Some interesting shit but honestly I need to analyze it.
I somehow cannot believe it took so long to read two players...


So Bler, this one's for you, something crazy I'm sure you'll like. I could just go back and vote Lift properly, but that's whatever. This is the good shit though... the best shit. Sleeping with the Enemy shit.

Mechanics wise:
Vote blerl44
You're so town you got to be scum. You're too active and camouflaging as obvi town while creating all types of distractions.

Flavor wise:
Marie, I get the feeling you're not a backdoor kind of gal.
Yet. Means I'll be able to teach you something new...