The third neutral survivor claim was trolling, not serious.
Although it would be hilarious if I was a third neutral survivor.

Please bump!

[defend nacho refresh bump.]


lol - i quite like you. would be sad to lynch you. with that charm though, it occurs to me you wouldn't even have to extort tammy, you could just probably talk her into it.

Still of the mind nacho is our biggest exposure, but I'll raise the prospect of no lynch again.

With Brasas dead (might have killed himself just to get out of this game, but was more likely in play for killing babs), and presumably no one visiting me, maaaaybe we get a fresh look at who moves where and how many whatevers?

vote staying where it is for the moment, however.

I'm fairly sure, but I also don't know what it means. I followed him after the lynch and he didn't go straight home, but apparently I didn't follow beyond that. I asked to clarify and he did something, but I have no idea what. And I don't even know what that means.

Your result was a flavor result? It wasn't definite?
I thought you got a "Nacho did something or something was done to him", not a "Nacho didn't go straight home" type of a result.

No the first was that I followed you after the lynch to see if you went directly home and you did not.

I asked for clarification if that meant you did something and he said that you did do something. I just don't know what or anything more than that.

Vote Nachomamma8

The only other person I would probably vote for today is cristi, but I think Nacho is a more viable lynch since he has to be lying about not doing anything last night.

Maybe you are really vanilla or you'd have felt the struggle of trying to divine what you did or didn't do the prior night from your QT. ;)

It's like being really, really drunk and having to ask the friend who drove you home what you did.

Though, in balance, I expect active kills are a bit easier to read wut the wut happened. kill babs -> dead babs is probably quite a bit more intuitive than my own. So...not clearing you for that. But it's amusing to ponder.

Do you think he'd put two survivors in the game?

In our QT together, Drealmer and I established that Fergie was a bit of a nomad type who loved travelling and seeing in the world; he felt like Oakwood village was the place where he finally felt like he belonged and that it was the place that he was looking for all along and that he was willing to protect at any cost. I came up with that Fergie liked to run in order to release stress (since it ties in with the whole "traveler theme") so I've gotten flavor messages about my post-lynch stress runs but if that has absolutely anything to do with Tammy's result then I think that's really really dumb and frustrating.

In a 17 person setup 2 survivors and I am guessing 5 scum, yes I could see that. Not something I would do, but I could see it.

@Nacho, are you saying you go running every evening and that's what Tammy's read was?

No I'm saying that if that is what Tammy's read was then I will have problems with a moderator who I've fallen in love with over the course of the game because I came up with the running piece of Fergie's flavor and if that ends up being a pivotal game then I'll probably strangle him with his own entrails :)

Two survivors + 5 scum seems kind of insanely ridiculous, no? If survivors can win with scum, that means if both survivors side with the baddies and make town kills then they're guaranteed a majority by D2.

We still have a NK numbers problem, folks.

wolfsquad kills quad
cristi claims RW
tammy kills Dess

who kills wyrm (i forget which of them was actually devoured)?

N2:
Ix kills himself on fortress bler
Brasas(?) kills babark

who kills Brasas?

Even if you assume cristi is SK who also killed Brasas and forged a runaway note, who killed townie #dos on N1?

funny that stan/yogs and i farted around most of the day with nothing happening, and now they're both gone for the burst of excitement.

uh, unvote nachomamma8
vote no lynch
unvote no lynch
vote nachomamma8

It's certainly possible drealmer is hosing you on the flavor, but when I asked for clarification I got something pretty specific to actual mechanics (killing Ix) not just flavor as it originally appeared.

I don't think anyone killed Brasas though.

But my theory on RW fleeing due to his maker dying was completely off the mark, but his letter seems pretty clear on that one.

But the survivors have no way of knowing there are actually two of them or who the scum are. I see you are suggesting two neutrals in this setup is too many?

to fit the rules, Unvote Nachomamma8 for now

I don't expect that drealmer is hosing me on flavor.
But, if he made me a tracker miller because of FLAVOR THAT I CAME UP WITH, there will be horrible words to be had.

Trent - Two survivors is too much because normal survivors that aren't weirdo freaks like our friend Tammy here typically join the winning team. Survivors are normally not duplicated in setups simply because they're swingy as flying ducks; two survivors teaming up with the baddies early means a very short game and survivors with powers teaming against baddies means a very short game. My expectation is that drealmer made a good neutral (Tammy) and a bad neutral (cristi).