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Posted March 31, 2018
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richlind33: They're not available for purchase, and $20 isn't cheap when half of what you're getting is worthless to you. The "enhancements" on the whole have been so marginal that I think it's fair to say that it's little more than planned obsolescence.
As I said before, when the originals were around for years before and the new bundles go on sale constantly I just don't see why people complain so much. We're never going to change each others' minds though, so it is what it is. I hate the negative slant of most PC gaming forums. Everything is always some anti-consumer thunderstorm.
Posted March 31, 2018
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richlind33: They're not available for purchase, and $20 isn't cheap when half of what you're getting is worthless to you. The "enhancements" on the whole have been so marginal that I think it's fair to say that it's little more than planned obsolescence.
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StingingVelvet: As I said before, when the originals were around for years before and the new bundles go on sale constantly I just don't see why people complain so much. We're never going to change each others' minds though, so it is what it is. I hate the negative slant of most PC gaming forums. Everything is always some anti-consumer thunderstorm.
All the politics and negativity on gaming forums is quite interesting. Me and my fellow nerd friends in real life never, ever talk about games in a negative way - we talk about games we love and ignore games we don't care for. It's weird how that changes when people get online.

"Someone likes a game I didn't enjoy, FOR LORDERON!"
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Posted April 01, 2018
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richlind33: They're not available for purchase, and $20 isn't cheap when half of what you're getting is worthless to you. The "enhancements" on the whole have been so marginal that I think it's fair to say that it's little more than planned obsolescence.
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StingingVelvet: As I said before, when the originals were around for years before and the new bundles go on sale constantly I just don't see why people complain so much. We're never going to change each others' minds though, so it is what it is. I hate the negative slant of most PC gaming forums. Everything is always some anti-consumer thunderstorm.
While there are a multiplicity of perspectives from which the world can be viewed, dichotomies are the realm of those who see only black and white, wrong and right. The inherently paradoxical nature of reality leaves them baffled and ineffectual; and consequently, incapable of adapting to an environment that, above all else, requires constant adaptation.

In my estimation, what you really hate is nonconformity; I, on the other hand, embrace it, because without it there can be no diversity -- and in the absence of diversity there exists only boredom.

Cheers.
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Posted April 01, 2018
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Leroux: I think the main point here is "Let customers decide whether they deserve the extra money or not". To a certain extent I can relate to your lack of understanding towards people hating on Beamdog all the time just because, but I don't get why you defend the move of removing options from customers. Beamdog invested some energy and money into the Enhanced Edition, so it stands to reason that they'd want to be paid for that, but that has nothing to do with removing the originals from the store, even if they're bundled with their more expensive version instead. That doesn't really involve much work on Beamdog's part and there is no benefit for customers in removing the option to buy the originals seperately.
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StingingVelvet: Well they obviously removed the originals from sale on their own to push enhanced editions. I don't think anyone is dumb enough to deny that. The source of my frustration is more seeing that as some horrible thing only bad people do. It's capitalism, and they want to be paid for their work and cover their licensing costs. If the consumer doesn't want to pay $20 instead of $10 they are free to wait for a sale. And again, the vast majority of fans likely got these games for $10 or less on GOG before.
That's an ignorant assertion because acting on self-interest isn't necessarily greedy. Those who claim that capitalism is inherently greedy are merely dishonest people attempting to rationalize and legitimize antisocial behavior. Adam Smith was a philanthropist, and the originator of progressive taxation, not an unprincipled lout, dedicated to the unlimited accumulation of wealth.
Posted April 01, 2018
https://youtu.be/8bOlBAdPcrI

game talking to the enhanced edition
Posted April 01, 2018
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richlind33: While there are a multiplicity of perspectives from which the world can be viewed, dichotomies are the realm of those who see only black and white, wrong and right. The inherently paradoxical nature of reality leaves them baffled and ineffectual; and consequently, incapable of adapting to an environment that, above all else, requires constant adaptation.

In my estimation, what you really hate is nonconformity; I, on the other hand, embrace it, because without it there can be no diversity -- and in the absence of diversity there exists only boredom.

Cheers.
You have no idea how far off you are on your little internet psychoanalysis, but whatever makes you feel good.
Posted April 01, 2018
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richlind33: The point is that the originals are now "freebies" that have zero market value, not because there is no market for them, but because Beamdog doesn't want to compete with them.
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StingingVelvet: And my response is "so what?" They're still easily available, cheap and untouched.
They become more expensive by being bundled with things the customer may not want. That's less cheap.
You also have to now have to give money to X company for a product that's 'untouched' by them... why? They're not confident their version will sell well on its own, so they lock the original behind it. You have to pay them now (and a higher price) in order to obtain it.
Posted April 01, 2018
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StingingVelvet: And my response is "so what?" They're still easily available, cheap and untouched.
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XyleDaylight: They become more expensive by being bundled with things the customer may not want. That's less cheap.
You also have to now have to give money to X company for a product that's 'untouched' by them... why? They're not confident their version will sell well on its own, so they lock the original behind it. You have to pay them now (and a higher price) in order to obtain it.
They know perfectly well that the value of their product is quite limited, but rather than make something that has greater value, they choose to rely on dubious marketing, and those willing to make the small effort to learn how to use mods now have to subsidize those who insist on having a small number of preloaded mods for the sake of convenience. And the irony is rather extreme because these are games that have been greatly enhanced by the mod community, so learning how to use mods is well worth the trouble.
Posted April 02, 2018
To remain on track with the topic, do we know what are GOG plan for this release?

Any ETA?
Posted April 02, 2018
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XyleDaylight: They become more expensive by being bundled with things the customer may not want. That's less cheap.
You also have to now have to give money to X company for a product that's 'untouched' by them... why? They're not confident their version will sell well on its own, so they lock the original behind it. You have to pay them now (and a higher price) in order to obtain it.
Again, everyone with half a brain knows what they are doing. My only frustration was with the endless complaints about it, as if Oster came to everyone's house and pissed in their cereal individually. The games are still cheap, they've been in endless sales before and after being remastered, I just don't see it as a big deal. I don't know if it's the "political" controversy over Dragonspear or just normal PC gaming forum cynicism, but it's just silly to me.

I won't reply anymore though, feel free to yell at clouds without me.
Posted April 02, 2018
as much as it pains me, I'll probably get the enhanced edition whenever I do through Steam as it's got workshop attatched to it. I'd love to have easily available campaigns without much hassle related to installing.
Posted April 02, 2018
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XyleDaylight: They become more expensive by being bundled with things the customer may not want. That's less cheap.
You also have to now have to give money to X company for a product that's 'untouched' by them... why? They're not confident their version will sell well on its own, so they lock the original behind it. You have to pay them now (and a higher price) in order to obtain it.
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StingingVelvet: Again, everyone with half a brain knows what they are doing. My only frustration was with the endless complaints about it, as if Oster came to everyone's house and pissed in their cereal individually. The games are still cheap, they've been in endless sales before and after being remastered, I just don't see it as a big deal. I don't know if it's the "political" controversy over Dragonspear or just normal PC gaming forum cynicism, but it's just silly to me.

I won't reply anymore though, feel free to yell at clouds without me.
Everyone with half a brain knows that these games have *not* been "remastered", so maybe you should stop replying. ;p
Posted April 02, 2018
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XyleDaylight:
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StingingVelvet: I won't reply anymore though, feel free to yell at clouds without me.
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Posted April 02, 2018
Has anyone checked out the NWN EE forums ? looks like a much more stable release than before , the diamond edition that i have on gog refuses to run properly on windows 10 might have to get the EE edition instead.
Posted April 04, 2018
There is still no ETA on the release, and GOG issued no statement on this release.

All we know is they "talk" to each other.

We should use social media to make sure they hear us and make a deal.
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