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Posted June 08, 2015
One of the main things gOg need to do the become a "Steam Killer" is to stop being so stringy on the gOg keys. I can see why they do it (they do not get any monies for games sold outside gOg), but one of the reasons so many uses Steam is just because so many keys are sold outside Steam. This makes Steam a gaming hub, more than a store. But as long as gOg insists on having sole control over they keys, it makes itself irrelevant in many contexts.
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amok: the difference between Games for Windows was that no-one used it. Steam has (at this exact moment in time) 8.000.000 users online....

Not to mention that developers did not like to use GfWL, but they like the Steam framework (which is even free to use). So good luck!
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nes400: yeah but steam was released in 2003 >>> 5 years before gog so of course they have bigger user database
gog made their first moves with aaa titles, galaxy and the site will gain popularity with Witcher 3 also
gOg released Witcher 2 here also, and it did have some influx - the AAA titles are still missing (Well... We got Lichdom :)). One year ago (?) gOg introduced regional pricing to lure AAA titles, they are still missing....
Post edited June 08, 2015 by amok
Posted June 08, 2015
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nes400: dont want to start an argue here.. but steam doesnt allow very much control of your games files you have purchased and gog lets users choose the options they want for basically everything
You misread the post you're replying to here. They said that Steam gives the giant publishers control, not that it gives users control.
Posted June 08, 2015
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amok: the difference between Games for Windows was that no-one used it. Steam has (at this exact moment in time) 8.000.000 users online....

Not to mention that developers did not like to use GfWL, but they like the Steam framework (which is even free to use). So good luck!
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nes400: yeah but steam was released in 2003 >>> 5 years before gog so of course they have bigger user database
gog made their first moves with aaa titles, galaxy and the site will gain popularity with Witcher 3 also
The problem with this logic is Steam isn't slowing or stopping from growing. Look at press releases where Valve announces concurrent users and registered users. Those numbers consistently have risen in the face of more competition (including GoG). In order to be a 'Steam Killer', you have to somewhat slow down the momentum of what you are trying to catch.

It's also very hard to compete with Steam (from GoG's point of view) because the playing field is not even. GoG only offers a third of what Steam carries so even if you were to get people to stop buying from Steam, most of the time the alternative isn't going to be GoG because GoG does not carry many of the titles those people are looking to buy.
Post edited June 08, 2015 by synfresh
Posted June 08, 2015
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nes400: dont want to start an argue here.. but steam doesnt allow very much control of your games files you have purchased and gog lets users choose the options they want for basically everything
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SirPrimalform: You misread the post you're replying to here. They said that Steam gives the giant publishers control, not that it gives users control.
Not only giant publisers.... one of the reasons why Indies also like Steam is because the back-end is so open, and they have full control over it and can (theoretically) do what they want. (Which iff course is a double-edged sword in itself.). The curated nature of gOg, and gOg's ;quality control' restricts everything a developer can do here, and everything have to go through gOg staff.
Posted June 08, 2015
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nes400: yeah but steam was released in 2003 >>> 5 years before gog so of course they have bigger user database
gog made their first moves with aaa titles, galaxy and the site will gain popularity with Witcher 3 also
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synfresh: The problem with this logic is Steam isn't slowing or stopping from growing. Look at press releases where Valve announces concurrent users and registered users. Those numbers consistently have risen in the face of more competition (including GoG). In order to be a 'Steam Killer', you have to somewhat slow down the momentum of what you are trying to catch.

It's also very hard to compete with Steam (from GoG's point of view) because the playing field is not even. GoG only offers a third of what Steam carries so even if you were to get people to stop buying from Steam, most of the time the alternative isn't going to be GoG because GoG does not carry many of the titles those people are looking to buy.
thats why the gog catalog need some boost
Post edited June 08, 2015 by nes400
Posted June 08, 2015
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tfishell: Here's my view: we need both GOG and Steam for competition. GOG shouldn't have a monopoly either.
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mobutu: Yeah, but until gog reaches a position to even dream of having a monopoly the cold hard facts are something like ssteam - 90% and gog - 10% of the marketshare.
So it's pretty obviouos we all should side with gog and slowly bring the balance to the universe :).
Sure, for now I basically only support non-Steam stores, or openly DRM-free services, GOG being the main one since it seems to have the best chance (if a small one) of evening the odds. :)
Posted June 08, 2015
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mobutu: Yeah, but until gog reaches a position to even dream of having a monopoly the cold hard facts are something like ssteam - 90% and gog - 10% of the marketshare.
I think the latest numbers is that Steam have around 70% market share of the digital gaming market. gOg do not have the other 30%, as there are many more competitors out there (Amazon, Origin, UBI and all the small ones).
Posted June 08, 2015
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amok: Not only giant publisers.... one of the reasons why Indies also like Steam is because the back-end is so open, and they have full control over it and can (theoretically) do what they want. (Which iff course is a double-edged sword in itself.). The curated nature of gOg, and gOg's ;quality control' restricts everything a developer can do here, and everything have to go through gOg staff.
Indeed, it's part of the reason we get updates later (the other part being lazy developers going "Oh, you expected us to send updates to GOG as well?").
Posted June 08, 2015
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amok: Not only giant publisers.... one of the reasons why Indies also like Steam is because the back-end is so open, and they have full control over it and can (theoretically) do what they want. (Which iff course is a double-edged sword in itself.). The curated nature of gOg, and gOg's ;quality control' restricts everything a developer can do here, and everything have to go through gOg staff.
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SirPrimalform: Indeed, it's part of the reason we get updates later (the other part being lazy developers going "Oh, you expected us to send updates to GOG as well?").
the sistem needs to be changed with gog patch should be the same version as official patches in the filename it kinda creates confusion
Posted June 08, 2015
I'd rather live in a world where both companies consider each other healthy competition. Being a fan boy for either is just unrealistic and not good for the over all pc gaming platform. Whether GOG fan boys want to admit it or not, but Steam has done and is doing a lot of things for PC gaming.
Posted June 08, 2015
How did this thread turn into this mess again?
Posted June 08, 2015
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darthspudius: I'd rather live in a world where both companies consider each other healthy competition. Being a fan boy for either is just unrealistic and not good for the over all pc gaming platform. Whether GOG fan boys want to admit it or not, but Steam has done and is doing a lot of things for PC gaming.
thats why gog lets you play with steam friends aswell ;)
they know they will be the rulers :))))
really i think Galaxy will be a big hit and a lot of people will start to reconsider steam
im not implying that steam will dissapear but many of gamers will look for an better alternative out there
Post edited June 08, 2015 by nes400
Posted June 08, 2015
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darthspudius: I'd rather live in a world where both companies consider each other healthy competition. Being a fan boy for either is just unrealistic and not good for the over all pc gaming platform. Whether GOG fan boys want to admit it or not, but Steam has done and is doing a lot of things for PC gaming.
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nes400: thats why gog lets you play with steam friends aswell ;)
they know they will be the rulers :))))
really i think Galaxy will be a big hit and a lot of people will start to reconsider steam
im not implying that steam will dissapear but many of gamers will look for an better alternative out there
Crossplay will depend on developer uptake. It is not something that will happen by magic, and it needs developers to stop using Steamworks for MP, and adopt Galaxy framework.Crossplay is more something like Game Spy was in its time. So we have to wait and see how many developers are willing to do so.
Posted June 08, 2015
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SirPrimalform: Indeed, it's part of the reason we get updates later (the other part being lazy developers going "Oh, you expected us to send updates to GOG as well?").
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nes400: the sistem needs to be changed with gog patch should be the same version as official patches in the filename it kinda creates confusion
That too.
Posted June 08, 2015
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