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it's white, hetro genocide.
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jamyskis: What, calling her a "bonobo" is not a reference to her being black?
The article is in French, I only read the catpower's short translation. Even you translated the word to ape in the post before me. I may have been a bit hasty but still, jail time.. I just find it hard to believe that this person will stop because of his time there.
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Nirth: The article is in French, I only read the catpower's short translation. Even you translated the word to ape in the post before me. I may have been a bit hasty but still, jail time.. I just find it hard to believe that this person will stop because of his time there.
Fair play. I honestly don't know what would signal to him that his conduct was in no way acceptable. His language suggests to me that he's the sort of guy who skirts with the law on a regular basis and that a fine would probably have only been paid from his tax-euro funded welfare.

"Bonobo" in French is similar to the use of the word "chimp" in English.
Thing a lot of you seem to forget, there's no right to free speech on the internet.
If you use Facefuck, Facefuck says what's permitted on their site.
If you use Twatter, Twatter says what's permitted on their site.
If you use GOG's Forum, GOG say's what's permitted on their site.

The sites talked about here have said what is permitted on their site, and as all are legally US based (As far as I know), they only have to abide by US law, but if they so choose to ban all discussion on poltical topics, you have no right to object.
Banning free speech on their site is their legal right, whatever the laws of the country hosting it.

If I own a site, my rules apply on my site, you get no say in the matter.
I hate bigotry of any sort and refuse, to allow you to spout your bias accross my wrbsite.
I have not infringed your rights to free speech, if your country gives you those rights.
Even if I'm from the same country and my site is hosted in that country.

Your right to spout hatred is unaffected, go into the streets where that right is legally protected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
Don't come to my castle, and expect me to give you that right, I have no obligation to permit you to spout hatred on my property.
Get back to your own, or public spaces, and spout your vile propaganda, away from my view.
I refuse to allow you to come to my land and do so, and that is my legal right, not yours.

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Post edited June 02, 2016 by UhuruNUru
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UhuruNUru: Thing a lot of you seem to forget, there's no right to free speech on the internet.
If you use Facefuck, Facefuck says what's permitted on their site.
If you use Twatter, Twatter says what's permitted on their site.
If you use GOG's Forum GOG say's what's permitted on their site.

The sites talked about here have said what is permitted on their site, and as all are legally US based (As far as I know).
They only have to abide by US law, but if they so choose to ban all discussion on polotical topics, you have no right to object.
Banning free speech on their site is their legal right, whatever the laws of the country hosting it.

If I own a site, my rules apply on my site, you get no say in the matter.
I hate bigotry of any sort and refuse, to allow you to spoout your bias accross my wrbsite.
I have not infringed your rights to free speech, if your country gives you those rights.
Even if I'm from the same country and my site is hosted in that country.

Your right to spout hatred is unaffected, go into the streets where tthat right is legally priotected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
Don't come to my castle, and expect me to give you a right, I have no obligation to permit you to spout hatred on my property.
Get back to your own or public spaces, and spout your vile propaganda, away from my view.
I refuse to allow you to come to my land and do so, and that is my legal right, not yours.
Brilliantly put. +1
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jamyskis: Leclère's nine-month prison sentence is more than justified though. She deliberately and actively tried to incite racial hatred among her followers and as a member of the Front National has a strong history of doing so.
"Hatred" isn't a crime, so making "incitement to hatred" a criminal offense seems nonsensical and unjustifiably authoritarian to me ("incitement to violence" is different obviously). The FN politician still deserved a punishment because obviously comparing Taubira to an ape is extremely insulting and defamatory...the prison sentence seems excessive to me though, and the way this case was handled (if I'm informed correctly, the case was tried in French Guyana which obviously is an hostile environment for a FN politician) also seems rather dubious to me.
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jamyskis: I honestly don't know what would signal to him that his conduct was in no way acceptable.
Specialized brainwashed education maybe but that would be highly expensive, time consuming and anyone willing to put up with that would require some compensation at the end like autonomty to continue their own experiments, profits or political capital.

Still, I wonder what effect it would have on people if they were forced to read a book (assuming they can read) and then get tested on it and they are released rather than forced to stay in a place where there are no tasks available that will contribute to them becoming a law abiding citizen. Also, since prisons are a haven of the typical criminals that end up there once a while (like part of their career) it's not really good for a rehabilitating process.
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bloodright21: read all you can it happening and games have always been a target. i hope GoG makes it i know steam has had to block games in areas:( what you guys thing
This is the OP?

No source, no reference. I wonder if you demean gog.com though.
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UhuruNUru: go into the streets where that right is legally protected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
Hum, maybe in UK but on the continent you're very likely to get arrested at least for "public order offence" ;)

BTW, in London, do they still have the "shouting places" in parks where random people where starting some random speeches about politics/religion? That's one of UK oddities I found interesting when I was there in the 90's :)
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UhuruNUru: go into the streets where that right is legally protected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
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catpower1980: Hum, maybe in UK but on the continent you're very likely to get arrested at least for "public order offence" ;)

BTW, in London, do they still have the "shouting places" in parks where random people where starting some random speeches about politics/religion? That's one of UK oddities I found interesting when I was there in the 90's :)
Don't think you can do that in the UK either...it's pretty authoritarian there as well (google "Liam Stacey" if you want an example).
Only America is truly free nowadays :-)
Post edited June 02, 2016 by morolf
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catpower1980: Hum, maybe in UK but on the continent you're very likely to get arrested at least for "public order offence" ;)

BTW, in London, do they still have the "shouting places" in parks where random people where starting some random speeches about politics/religion? That's one of UK oddities I found interesting when I was there in the 90's :)
In Berlin they do that at the Brandenburger Tor. Every time I'm there there's some political or religious group campaigning about something and giving belligerent, hyperbolic speeches.

I've seen similar things in Bristol as well - the choice of "shouting place" is in the middle of the main shopping district though.
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UhuruNUru: Thing a lot of you seem to forget, there's no right to free speech on the internet.
If you use Facefuck, Facefuck says what's permitted on their site.
If you use Twatter, Twatter says what's permitted on their site.
If you use GOG's Forum GOG say's what's permitted on their site.

The sites talked about here have said what is permitted on their site, and as all are legally US based (As far as I know).
They only have to abide by US law, but if they so choose to ban all discussion on polotical topics, you have no right to object.
Banning free speech on their site is their legal right, whatever the laws of the country hosting it.

If I own a site, my rules apply on my site, you get no say in the matter.
I hate bigotry of any sort and refuse, to allow you to spoout your bias accross my wrbsite.
I have not infringed your rights to free speech, if your country gives you those rights.
Even if I'm from the same country and my site is hosted in that country.

Your right to spout hatred is unaffected, go into the streets where tthat right is legally priotected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
Don't come to my castle, and expect me to give you a right, I have no obligation to permit you to spout hatred on my property.
Get back to your own or public spaces, and spout your vile propaganda, away from my view.
I refuse to allow you to come to my land and do so, and that is my legal right, not yours.
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jamyskis: Brilliantly put. +1
It's a retarded argument that's essentially saying censorship is fine if the government is not directly doing it.
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jamyskis: Brilliantly put. +1
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Spectre: It's a retarded argument that's essentially saying censorship is fine if the government is not directly doing it.
Wouldn't agree...I think it's all right when companies like Facebook ban/delete certain kinds of speech from their sites...private companies should be free to make up their own terms of use.
What bothers me is the threat of legal punishments (including jail sentences) for certain speech under terms like "incitement to hatred" that are wide open to interpretation and political manipulation...that's at least potentially a mechanism to stifle dissent.
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morolf: (...)case was tried in French Guyana which obviously is an hostile environment for a FN politician) also seems rather dubious to me.
The reference in the cartoon to the colonial power view of people on a lower rung than "savages" was too obscure, huh.

Things like "poetic justice" and "irony of fates" comes to mind.

In any case, since when were filthy foreign governments allowed to interfere in local legal procedures of sovereign states, anyway? ..Oh, wait, never mind, I got this one. It's different, because... they're savages! Obviously. Now, excuse me, but the Eiffel Tower needs to be put up in time for the celebration at the coming millennium. There's also some weird guy who wants a statue shipped over to New York. We're very busy here in the 1800s, you see.
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jamyskis: Brilliantly put. +1
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Spectre: It's a retarded argument that's essentially saying censorship is fine if the government is not directly doing it.
On my property it is my right, it doesn't censor you everywhere, just in my territory, where I don't give you any right to free speech.
It's not censorship, if your right to free speech isn't infringed, and I never stop you speaking, anywhere but in my castle.
I never gave you permission to spout your hatred, on my site, but I don't stop you spouting it anywhere but my property.

I'm the lawmaker on my site, not you, but I never infringe your right to spout hate elsewhere, so it's not censorship.

In fact it goes by another word, respecting your host's property, do I have a right to barge into your hom, and spout vile hatred at your, wife/sister/mother, would you allow that in the name of free speech.

I can spout hate with the worst of them, but I would respect my host's rights, and keep it in my head.
If you knew what went on in there, it may make your hate look feeble, it stays in my imagination, where it belongs.
I'm polite and respectful in your teritory, where you have every right to spout your hate, I don't.
Comer to my castle, and Ill give you that hate back in spades, and you will stand there and take it, or politely excuse yourself and leave, we both habve the right to free speech, only where and when is different.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by UhuruNUru