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UhuruNUru: go into the streets where that right is legally protected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
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catpower1980: Hum, maybe in UK but on the continent you're very likely to get arrested at least for "public order offence" ;)

BTW, in London, do they still have the "shouting places" in parks where random people where starting some random speeches about politics/religion? That's one of UK oddities I found interesting when I was there in the 90's :)
yes it's called 'Speakers corner' in hyde park

you stand on a stone, and can say what you want, the police can't arrest you.
Post edited June 03, 2016 by Cavenagh
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catpower1980: Hum, maybe in UK but on the continent you're very likely to get arrested at least for "public order offence" ;)

BTW, in London, do they still have the "shouting places" in parks where random people where starting some random speeches about politics/religion? That's one of UK oddities I found interesting when I was there in the 90's :)
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Cavenagh: yes it's called 'Speakers corner' in hyde park

you stand on a stone, and can say what you want, the police can't arrest you.
And yet they arrest British nationalists for allegedly inciting violence or promoting "racism" and "hate speech" but do next to nothing about Islamists. Or is it only at that particular perimeter are people allowed to speak freely?
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UhuruNUru: Thing a lot of you seem to forget, there's no right to free speech on the internet.
If you use Facefuck, Facefuck says what's permitted on their site.
If you use Twatter, Twatter says what's permitted on their site.
If you use GOG's Forum, GOG say's what's permitted on their site.

The sites talked about here have said what is permitted on their site, and as all are legally US based (As far as I know), they only have to abide by US law, but if they so choose to ban all discussion on poltical topics, you have no right to object.
Banning free speech on their site is their legal right, whatever the laws of the country hosting it.

If I own a site, my rules apply on my site, you get no say in the matter.
I hate bigotry of any sort and refuse, to allow you to spout your bias accross my wrbsite.
I have not infringed your rights to free speech, if your country gives you those rights.
Even if I'm from the same country and my site is hosted in that country.

Your right to spout hatred is unaffected, go into the streets where that right is legally protected, and spout all the hatred you wish.
Don't come to my castle, and expect me to give you that right, I have no obligation to permit you to spout hatred on my property.
Get back to your own, or public spaces, and spout your vile propaganda, away from my view.
I refuse to allow you to come to my land and do so, and that is my legal right, not yours.

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The problem has to do with governments putting pressure on these firms to implement censorship. Also, there have already been cases of people being arrested for allegedly saying things that got interpreted as "anti-semetic," "violent," "hateful," or "racist." It is taking that type of BS censorship policy and making private companies implement it in order to control information in order to control people.
Post edited June 03, 2016 by infinite9
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infinite9: And yet they arrest British nationalists for allegedly inciting violence or promoting "racism" and "hate speech" but do next to nothing about Islamists. Or is it only at that particular perimeter are people allowed to speak freely?
Really?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33784926
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11701269

How about you get your head out of your fucking ass and do a bit of research next time instead of embarrassing yourself by peddling your agenda? That took me 30 fucking seconds to google.
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infinite9: And yet they arrest British nationalists for allegedly inciting violence or promoting "racism" and "hate speech" but do next to nothing about Islamists. Or is it only at that particular perimeter are people allowed to speak freely?
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jamyskis: Really?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33784926
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11701269

How about you get your head out of your fucking ass and do a bit of research next time instead of embarrassing yourself by peddling your agenda? That took me 30 fucking seconds to google.
BBC lol == gurdaian newspaper

[edit] the reason i don't pay TV licence


VOTE OUT
Post edited June 03, 2016 by Cavenagh
i felt this was something to talk about these people always ALWAYS target games please keep it civil
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plagren: snip
You were under the impression that any type of disagreement with a person constitutes hypocrisy and that the only honest way of criticizing anything is to equally call everyone else stupid, as demonstrated by your focus on the terminology over content (a very common problem among armchair debaters).

But you shouldn't be embarrassed from getting educated. It's always good to learn even when your pride gets in the way of it. I hope you'll find less anxiety in other topics.
Post edited June 03, 2016 by MaximumBunny
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fr33kSh0w2012: Fuck censorship!

https://torguard.net/
You think that'll protect you? Food for thought.
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infinite9: And yet they arrest British nationalists for allegedly inciting violence or promoting "racism" and "hate speech" but do next to nothing about Islamists. Or is it only at that particular perimeter are people allowed to speak freely?
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jamyskis: Really?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33784926
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11701269

How about you get your head out of your fucking ass and do a bit of research next time instead of embarrassing yourself by peddling your agenda? That took me 30 fucking seconds to google.
Sure some Islamists get busted but not as much as British nationalists.

Cavenagh said it better than me.
*L...E....T....'S ......RUM....BLE*!!!!...
Post edited June 04, 2016 by Tauto
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jamyskis: Really?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33784926
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11701269

How about you get your head out of your fucking ass and do a bit of research next time instead of embarrassing yourself by peddling your agenda? That took me 30 fucking seconds to google.
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Cavenagh: BBC lol == gurdaian newspaper

[edit] the reason i don't pay TV licence

VOTE OUT
What's BBC = Guardian Newspaper have to do with what's reported is correct or false?

Other non Guardian news reported in the UK every 2 days there is a Muslim Terror Arrest.
http://newobserveronline.com/uk-muslim-terror-arrest-every-2-days/

Don't follow bad habits of your opponents, attacking the messenger instead of what's wrong in the message.
I read all about it, in the netherlands the same is taking place, the sad thing is it seems to be one sided:
apparently one side can say what they want but if the other side says something it will be hate.

I did notice that all this shits seems to come from EU (brussels), like i said our kids grow up and become adult, they dont need brestfeeding anymore, but our leaders, have gone back to the brestfeeding, they cant decide nor think for themselves and Brussels have to decide for them, our PM allowed Brussels to take over , as for the Brexit: those poor sheeps will probably stay in cause they cant decide nor think for themselves, and most politicians in britain bow to the EU (Brussels) so basically its a done race and the winner is already known: EU.

Britain will stay (52-59%), and shit will hit the fan ....
Referendum are a joke cause even when the dutch case is officlally pending (dutch pm got 'sued') rumors are on the social media feeds that the deal is already done, so why bother people to vote? no one will listen, cause our PM all want a nice job with up to 25K of income (thats taxes already paid) plus loads of bonuses.
There seems to be a Brexit the movie, but it seems noone has wacthed it.
So brace yourselves, more shit is coming very soon, before you know it games will be even more heavilly censored, democratic countries will become the other way around while less or non democratic countries might get better and will have less censorships, its the reverse way around now, now we will become like the ones we always found they had no democracy.
Just read some news, more fearmongering from Cameron,

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/04/brexit-eu-referendum-michael-gove-david-cameron-nhs

nasty little man that Cameron is, always crying out loud with his red head almost looking like it will burst, that guy seems so filled with anger, anger because in the unlikely event they will brexit his good life might be harmed.
As for the old dinosaurs at Brussels, they only have a few years before they can retire to their villas and yachts, do its obvious they dont want to loose that salary , which can be very big just watch movies about it.

My predicition: the young voters suddenly wake up, will massively vote IN and then the shits hits the fan cause they convinced their grannies to vote in, the very old dont want chances the last years they want peace and security, as for the young generation ( 18-24) they are to young to really know that before the euro and before it became EU (brussels) ruling 24 plus countries as a superstate, things were far better then now, so basically they only care for fast mobile internet which has been promised by EU in a certain way.
They only know the mp3 player, the euro, they do have the pound which should make the qustion why the pound has been kept instead of going to euros like most countries did , if the EU is so nice then why not accepted the euros ?
Relax everyone. All threads with the word "Hitler" in the title now have the option of being blocked and hidden from you, so you need not worry about 'hate speech' rearing it's ugly head in this forum. :D
Post edited June 04, 2016 by tinyE
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gamesfreak64: Referendum are a joke
At least you have this "tool" in the Dutch constitution. In Belgium it has been erased since the 50's and the abidction of the king Leopold III. Our Prime Minister talked recently about reintroducing it for "big social matters" but the proposition got torn apart in Wallonia as the results could potentially be in favor of Vlaamingen and Waalse right-wing in terms of national proportions (basically, they criticize the essence of a majority in a democracy).

Fuck, still ten years like this and I'll really move out to Netherlands, you Dutch are saner than us :o)

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BTW, I got my Amazon order at noon, with among other books:

"You Can't Read This Book: Censorship in an Age of Freedom" by Nick Cohen
https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Cant-Read-This-Book/dp/0007518501/

Probably won't read it soon as I already have a big backlog but can be interesting on this subject.
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gamesfreak64: Referendum are a joke
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catpower1980: At least you have this "tool" in the Dutch constitution. In Belgium it has been erased since the 50's and the abidction of the king Leopold III. Our Prime Minister talked recently about reintroducing it for "big social matters" but the proposition got torn apart in Wallonia as the results could potentially be in favor of Vlaamingen and Waalse right-wing in terms of national proportions (basically, they criticize the essence of a majority in a democracy).

Fuck, still ten years like this and I'll really move out to Netherlands, you Dutch are saner than us :o)

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BTW, I got my Amazon order at noon, with among other books:

"You Can't Read This Book: Censorship in an Age of Freedom" by Nick Cohen
https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Cant-Read-This-Book/dp/0007518501/

Probably won't read it soon as I already have a big backlog but can be interesting on this subject.
Your welcome, our little country is already flooding with 'people' so a few thousands belgians would at least add something usefull, we like the belgians we like the humor, samson and gert, and the belgian voices for timon and pumba, and gaston en leo in the 60s and 70s.
i dont know how long it would take to naturalise to dutch, but maybe you lucky and jump on a rubber boat :D
who knows, how fast that would naturalise you.

I assume you can read some Dutch? if so, check the dutch site that started the referendum: geenstijl dot nl
and yes we dutch are aware of the mess you poor belgians are in right now, thats what we get when our PM have no backbone, but were not alone:

PM cameron has no backbone
PM Rutte doesnt know what a backbone is and you cant have anything if you dont know even know it exists and what it would look like, maybe his backbone is made of rubber, which has some benefits, it makes it easier to bend to different sides, left, right and center and maybe various others.
Current PM of France : no backbone
and the beat goes on and on....
and Germany ? that chancellor is beyond repair i guess

I dont know about the latest countries that joined much later, i do hear rumors that one small country seems to have a reasonable PM, i think it was Hungary , with a mp that sounded like orphan or something.
dont know for sure... cause lots of news is beiing with held from us and censored, many posts magically disappear, news articles in english papers have lots of : oops page is miracly disappeeard so i guess censorship is at full speed.
But arent all borders open? :D if so, just come to visit us and dont leave :D no one will notice that i guess, they are to busy trying to get a nice job in Brussels.

check this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329554/EU-expenses-MEPs-Brussels-earn-740-average-citizen-enjoy-free-haircuts-gallons-petrol.html

that hurts :D, thats why they want the EU to stick together, to keep their big salaries.

And while the lid to the sewer is still open :
google for: fuel tax germany then scroll untill you see some english newspapers :D

As for Dorothea (merkel) wikipedia:

Angela Dorothea Merkel is a German politician and former research scientist. Merkel has been the Chancellor of Germany since 2005, and the leader of the Christian Democratic Union since 2000.
check the bold, thats a bit frightening to read isnt it?
research scientist, thats why the trying to mess up, she likes to research, thats like experimenting with 'new' things, (laws, rules and more like that).

The funny part is: Dorothea

thats like Dorothy in english
reminds me of the welknown classic : The Wizard of Oz ( a very good kids movie, maybe a bit scary for very young but its quite entertaining)

When a tornado rips through Kansas, Dorothy (Judy Garland) and her dog, Toto, are whisked away in their house to the magical land of Oz. They follow the Yellow Brick Road toward the Emerald City to meet the Wizard, and en route they meet a Scarecrow (Ray Bolger) that needs a brain, a Tin Man (Jack Haley) missing a heart, and a Cowardly Lion (Bert Lahr) who wants courage. The wizard asks the group to bring him the broom of the Wicked Witch of the West (Margaret Hamilton) to earn his help.
So thats why all the 'experimenting' she' is looking for the wizard of oz, Oz does not exist, but many people dont know that, so oz will be replaced by EU, The wizard of EU.

check image: wizardofozz.jpg

Dorothy, The wizard, and 3 awkward helpers: with some imagination we can fill in these 3 heroes with PM names i guess.

Dorothy would be Dorothea , The Wizard can be anyone..., the lion who needs courage could be :
the tinman who wants a heart could be :
and the scarecrow could be:

So its only a dream, everything is allright, nothing to worry about, just make sure to check if you wear the red shoes, and then click your heels and say the magic word:
There's no place like home.... and repeat that until the effect begins ....


click click ... There's no place like home .... There's no place like home There's no place like home
darn it doesnt seem to work with red armyboots :D
ahwell maybe it will work for female...
i guess i be walking home ...
bye :D
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