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octalot: So, you won't point to a time when GOG have officially said that Linux versions are just a bonus.
Nope, will leave that up to you or any other that cares to do so. I don't have the time nor inclination to go through thousands if not millions of threads looking for such posts. Like I've said, I have seen such posts many times in the past, and that's enough for me. If you or others don't choose to believe me, fair enough, you are free to choose what you believe.

Of course, I am happy to re-evaluate given facts to the contrary, as pride and ego for me comes secondary (if even that) to truth.

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Of course, this could all be resolved in a blink of an eye, by getting a MOD to post here about the situation. Perhaps contradicting what I and many others have claimed. They could set the record straight for all time ... a post we could always link back to.
Post edited December 21, 2022 by Timboli
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Timboli: Nope, will leave that up to you or any other that cares to do so. I don't have the time nor inclination to go through thousands if not millions of threads looking for such posts.
If only some kind of device, or..."engine," let's call it, existed to look for things, to "search," one might say. Imagine how much time that would save! Sadly, I suspect such technology will ever be out of the reach of mere mortals.
Like I've said, I have seen such posts many times in the past
No you haven't.
as pride and ego for me comes secondary (if even that) to truth.
Hmm. In any case, as I'm sure you know, it's logically impossible to prove a negative, thus the onus is upon the one making a claim to provide proof thereof. And it's considered quite rude to expect others to do the work for you.
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eric5h5: If only some kind of device, or..."engine," let's call it, existed to look for things, to "search," one might say. Imagine how much time that would save! Sadly, I suspect such technology will ever be out of the reach of mere mortals.
Listen, while your snark is rude and unappreciated, keep in mind that GOG has terrible SEO, and their internal search engine is broken. The staff have shifted though the years, as has the policy. What was readily applicable in 2012, well does not apply today.
I'm not sure if Linux support is the actual point of this thread, but GOG has indeed made statements about supporting it.

Selected quotes:

"No, don't duck. This is actually good news. We just wanted to announce that, after much deliberation, we've decided that one of the next steps for us is to support Linux."

"We're initially going to be launching our Linux support on GOG.com with the full GOG.com treatment for Ubuntu and Mint."

"This is, of course, going to include games that we sell which already have Linux clients, but we'll also be bringing Linux gamers a variety of classics that are, for the first time, officially supported and maintained by a storefront like ours."


Interestingly enough, that annoncement is no longer on GOG website, but can be found from archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140318151255/https://www.gog.com/news/gogcom_soon_on_more_platforms


Whatever that means, if anything, can and probably will be debated, but at least the words "GOG", "Linux", and "support" have been used in the same context, so it's not unreasonable to assume that people who have read that announcement are expecting GOG to support Linux.
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Darvond: Listen, while your snark is rude and unappreciated
How about you listen for a change. Your ignorance, obnoxiousness, and much greater rudeness goes beyond unappreciated to actively disliked.
keep in mind that GOG has terrible SEO, and their internal search engine is broken.
If only search engines existed where you could specify a particular site and only search those sites, without having to rely on frequently-inadequate internal search engines, given that GOG's sub-par search abilities are sadly not unique. Maybe someone will invent that someday. (If you don't want snark, you could stop posting useless trash that deserves to be snarked on.)
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Timboli: Can you also point us to any thread or post where official support has been provided? Or maybe a transcript between yourself and GOG Support.
Gog did announce official Linux support for a handful of games a few years ago: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gogcom_now_supports_linux

I don't recall seeing anything official saying they no longer support the original games they specified or anything saying they were extending the support to additional titles.
I used to use both Macs and PCs, each with their own purpose. The Macs were used primarily for music production because, at that time, the OS was more lightweight than windows, provided much better support for audio interfaces, and their proprietary connections were great for low latency audio recording.

When Apple ditched Firewire with no means of getting that connection on their new devices and dropped driver support for my expensive audio interfaces I ditched Apple's devices entirely.

Apple is a very anti-consumer business that basically makes overpriced trash that allows for almost no customization.
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mariuszenc: Maybe don't comment if you don't have anything at least half-clever to say.
While it was a snarky, unhelpful reply, there is a point. Apple is its own biggest enemy to gaming on Mac. It's constantly deprecating things for no reasons, choosing to use intentionally contrarian standards that no other system or platform has, and its constant changing of hardware choices makes it even harder yet. The cost to develop for Mac is higher than most other systems (Apple forces paid developer accounts, etc), and you must retain that for posting any updates.

On top of requiring the hardware (or two; if cross-publishing for Apple Intel) to do it.

Most of your caveats in your top post are on the developer (not all), and a lot of developers have intentionally decided, at least for now, to drop Mac because it's so hard to publish to. As the cross-platform-libraries that many indies use (like Unity) update, they may go back to it -- if their licenses for those are still up for the updates -- but they may not.

Sadly Mac is just a really closed system and Apple goes out of its way to make it hard as possible to put games on it. Developing for Mac is even tougher than for Linux from everything I've found in articles and developer chats.

And that's excluding that many Mac users are happy with walled gardens (Apple's own store) or otherwise non-adventurous to try other things that might even lead them to GOG in the first place. (Clearly, though, you're here.)
Post edited December 21, 2022 by mqstout
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PixelBoy: Whatever that means, if anything, can and probably will be debated, but at least the words "GOG", "Linux", and "support" have been used in the same context, so it's not unreasonable to assume that people who have read that announcement are expecting GOG to support Linux.
There is a newer post: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/ubuntu_1804_official_support_and_things_that_are_nice_to_know

I can't find anything official about subsequent LTS releases of Ubuntu though (20.04 or 22.04), or more recent Mac support.
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eric5h5: If only some kind of device, or..."engine," let's call it, existed to look for things, to "search," one might say. Imagine how much time that would save! Sadly, I suspect such technology will ever be out of the reach of mere mortals.
Yep, and if only it worked like it should.

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eric5h5: No you haven't.
So now you are calling me a liar. That's very polite of you.

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eric5h5: Hmm. In any case, as I'm sure you know, it's logically impossible to prove a negative, thus the onus is upon the one making a claim to provide proof thereof. And it's considered quite rude to expect others to do the work for you.
Let's get a few facts straight.
1) I am a fan of Linux. In fact I have hundreds of Linux versions from GOG on a few backup drives.
2) I shared to be helpful ... no other agenda.
3) I believe what I claimed to be true, and don't feel the need to prove it to others, because I am completely convinced myself.
4) Others as always are free to believe or not.
5) If what I have claimed is not backed up sufficiently for whoever reads it, then either do some research themself or just don't believe me.
6) No-one is forcing anyone to believe what someone else posts.
7) GOG is the ultimate arbiter in this, so if you feel my claim is false, check with them.
8) I would actually be pleased to be wrong ... if a bit bashful about looking silly ... even though I still stand by what I recall reading many times.

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firstpastthepost: Gog did announce official Linux support for a handful of games a few years ago: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gogcom_now_supports_linux

I don't recall seeing anything official saying they no longer support the original games they specified or anything saying they were extending the support to additional titles.
The term 'Support' can be taken in more than one way, so it can be very subjective to the context.

If GOG provide a version of a game that will work with Ubuntu out-of-the-box, then you can say they are supporting Ubuntu for that game and all those that use Ubuntu that buy that game.

Then there is support for if you run into trouble with installing or playing that game on Ubuntu. If that is not provided then one can rightly claim there is no support ... as in troubleshooting support ... which is all I am claiming with my posts.

Do GOG currently employ a Linux guru to help customers with issues?

I don't doubt there are some GOG staff, who have some Linux knowledge or skill, and perhaps help with simple issues. But can you really call that Linux Support?
Post edited December 22, 2022 by Timboli
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PixelBoy: Whatever that means, if anything, can and probably will be debated, but at least the words "GOG", "Linux", and "support" have been used in the same context, so it's not unreasonable to assume that people who have read that announcement are expecting GOG to support Linux.
See above ... my last post.

Further to that.

I have only been a member at GOG since May 2017. So mostly what I have read has been posted since then. That said, I do recall reading where GOG did have at least one Linux Guru on staff and did used to support Linux. What type of support I guess is the question, but I presume it was full support back then.

A Linux version of Galaxy was also a thing at one point. And that could have be described as another type of Linux support.

P.S. And let's just clear up something, for those who need it. I never saw an official announcement of GOG not supporting Linux. What I have seen many times, is posts about no support, by many GOG customers, plus MODs. If a MOD posts, I take that as some kind of official stance.
Post edited December 22, 2022 by Timboli
To be fair Apple actively goes out of their way to fuck with game developers so I don't blame them for not supporting it.
Linux is the future and til that comes just use Windows for gaming, much more painless.