Hello everyone, sorry I was busy yesterday evening and have spent today doing various chores.
Lifthrasil: In #249 Catte gives Yogs a Town reading because of Yog's early statement that his role didn't change. Arguing that scum would not know that roles didn't change. By now we know that Yog's role indeed didn't change, but his alignment did. A possibility that Catte ignored. But he stresses that the 'my role didn't change' is no Town tell for anyone else but Yogs, because Yogs was the first and 'scum now know what to claim'.
It's a possibility I didn't think of since that was before we'd even spotted the whole "everyone's a psychoanalyst" thing. All I knew at that point was that I was a psychoanalyst twice and that Yogs also had the same role twice (but I was assuming not a psychoanalyst). My assumption was based on the idea that Joe might have only rerolled alignments and then only swapped the roles of those whose alignment had changed.
You of course had insider information at that point already, knowing that you were a scum psychoanalyst in the first game and (presumably) a town psychoanalyst in the second. At that point only people whose alignment had changed would have had enough information to be certain I was wrong.
Lifthrasil: In #304 he reacts to Dogmaus' Psychoanalyst claim with: "I don't believe you. Anyone want to guess why?" ... This can be taken as a soft-claim. Which, according to what Catte later said, was. But it could also be scum having a theory but not wanting to be tied down to strongly. Scum might have had a theory at that point that there are multiple Psychoanalysts. They might have had the chance to talk to each other and, if they changed sides after Game 2, they will have known that they were Psychoanalyst in Game 1 as Town and were still Psychoanalyst after the switch to Scum. So Catte, if he is scum, might have had an idea at that point that there are multiple Psychoanalysts, but might not have been willing to reveal everything he knew. Thant might have been the reason for the vague soft claim.
Short version: would a Townie not have said "Aha! Got you! I am Psychoanalyst!" instead of making it a guessing game?
I didn't really consider it to be guessing game. I thought it was pretty obvious I was counterclaiming as at that point there was only one reason why I might disbelieve it. I had no inkling there might be multiple psychoanalysts until GR also claimed. You on the other hand would probably have had a good idea, as would Yogs seeing as he was presumably town in the first game.
Lifthrasil: In Post #410 Catte suggests that we play this game as mountainous and not assume that we have any useful powers. Interestingly he states this as reaction to Microfish's stated absolute certainty that Yogs was scum.
Well Micro's read was unsubstantiated at that point and looked pretty weird. At that point I wasn't aware that scum were differentiated entirely by their modifiers, just that the whole town seemed to be psychoanalysts. It would be hypocritical of you to suggest I should have thought of that considering that's how you blew up the first attempt at this game. ;)
I agree with you conclusion that it is possible for me to be scum, but unfortunately I'm not.
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I'm kind of stumped. I agree that it's possible Micro is scum, but the thing that might have made me vote for him yesterDay turned out to be a case of crossed wires.
However the difference between the results you claim to have got as a scum psychoanalyst and what Micro claims to have got as a town psychoanalyst is interesting. It's possible Joe changed the way it worked between games or decided that a town analyst should be less effective than a scum analyst... but it seems more likely that one of you is lying.
It does rather seem like a bunch of us are conditional. Not sure what point there is in being a psychoanalyst if all they can diagnose is "conditional". I'm leaning towards Micro lying and Micro vs Yogs being a constructed standoff.