Just re-checked my role PM. I misremembered and thought it had mentioned the number of qualifiers I find out if I am successful, but what it actually says is that I learn a player's qualifiers(i.e. if it works). Still, it seems a bit odd (imo) that Micro got three of them, while Lift's original scum role got two.

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Anyhoo, gonna keep my vote where it is for now....going off to bed till later.....later y'all

You know well your playstyle could be capitalized on to do scummy things without worry, since we're all expected to treat it as your normal way of doing things. But Lady Luck doesn't care about that, she never did. If she says you're scum, you're scum, and if she says you're Town, well you know the drill. So better suspect you and be safe than sorry.

Not really. You could say "yes I hammered" after the Micro vote count. But going "oops" when you didn't really need to is the part that worries me.

I did get all three modifiers that I discussed and that Micro claimed to have gotten too. I left out the 'Conditional' in my claim, because I didn't want to tell scum that they have hobbled roles. At that point I didn't know yet that most or even all roles are hobbled in this setup.

Perhaps from the screenshot of the original post that he saved? ... Which was discussed at the end of the previous and at the start of this game?

You know, maybe I'm right and I'm tunneling on Micro. Maybe I see his behaviour as scummy because his past behaviour was scummy (which he even admitted it to be). Actually I can't decide which of the two should be lynched first. Mechanically it should be yogs who goes first. By feeling it should be Micro. And that feeling is strengthened by the fact that it is you, another good scum candidate, who defends him. Illogical? Maybe. But my gut reaction is: oh, Bookwyrm is maybe defending his scumbuddy.

But at the moment my problem is, whoever I put my vote on will be at L-1 afterwards and will be in danger of accidental hammers. So I keep withholding my vote for now, until we are ready to end this Day.

@All: what do you think? Should we keep discussing for a few RL days? Or should we get the standoff sorted out rather sooner than later to make quicker progress in the game? After all, it should be one of the two today and no amount of discussion will change that.

Good catch. My PM doesn't specify anything about number of qualifiers.

Ok, I see GR has turned around on this one now.

You seem to have missed Wyrm's bolding, which indicates what he's asking about. How would GR's screenshot of your post inform him about his own PM? :P

Well I'm waiting for more posts from Micro. There are things he (completely understandably) hasn't addressed yet and I'd like to hear from him before deciding.

Oh, right. I missed the bolding!

I never saw your Post 20, and I've made a point to play without asking for it. Kind of interesting to be running with this asymmetrical information among players. I don't know exactly what you saw, so I can't judge it for myself.

So the concept is that Scum Micro and I came up with a plot to place him in 50/50 chance of dying, in the hopes of killing Yog-in-particular?

There's a few issues with that.
-First and foremost is that it kills Micro before N3 with no chance of securing a win for us. If we were in LYLO, then yeah, I might try that to just win, and if it fails then I figure out something to finish up solo. As things stand, this sacrifices half the scum team without winning us the game, when we could simply...not do that and still have it as an option for LYLO where it possibly COULD secure us the game.

-Second: why Yog? If I wanted him dead that badly, I'd just NK him. If I were making this play at this stage, I'd pick someone more vulnerable to have the best chance of Micro winning the duel and then hope that maybe we can slide Micro out on D3. I think Catte or Pooka would have made much better targets for the play.

I'm a fan of not dragging it out if there's nothing to be gained. If there are particular questions, then by all means, get them answered, but after that, quit dragging.

i'm alive but will be spending much of the day at the hospital, so i haven't read any of this. I intend to try and read there but idk because i think it's all mobile data and i have very limited.
my dad had his gallbladder out and the surgeon said it went very well and should make a marked improvment to his QoL.

I'll read the thread later cause i gotta run (I shouldn't be online at all rn)

Definitely. We could also use that time to see how others react to the standoff live as it happens, if not to gain more information about the other players outside of the standoff.

So, we have one vote for not dragging on and one vote for using all the time we got.

@Yogs and @Micro: what do you think? Since you're directly affected.

(underlining mine) Well said, and I agree 100%. If people want or feel the need to suspect me, then by all means.

As for the capitalizing upon my playstyle: I can't even do that right at times(there are times when I forget things even I myself said/did prior in the game). I could do better if I took more notes, but sometimes I lazily do not do so, and then sometimes I forget to do so.....etc etc, you get the drill.

What can I say? I wanted to only put them to L-1 at the time, and felt a bit bad about the hammer, so I expressed that in later posts.

So you did get 3 modifiers/qualifiers? Interesting. Micro could be telling the truth, then.

As such:

Unvote Micro

Side note: some players should REALLY try to read or at least skim more of my posts a bit better.
I try my best to raise questions/make points/etc, and some seem to miss them as they don't seem to be paying much attention to said posts.

Yeah, I said/implied this before as well: I didn't want to put Yogs at L-1 earlier in part because I didn't want to risk someone hammering them early....in case they somehow are town. Also, it'd give less time for discussion(unless our grand game mod Joe delayed yet again o.0) if the "day" ended early again.

I'm up for a mix of the two......i.e. have a few more IRL days to discuss, but not necessarily wait the full time limit till EOD.

Yeah, I remember my PM said the word qualifiers(i.e. more than one) and also remembered that Lift's original Post 20 had TWO of them listed......my brain then "misremembered" what my role PM said while writing my reply.

And a vote for using just enough time to wait for Micro to be able to catch up properly and answer questions.

I'm glad to hear it went well.

This from the fellow that didn't notice their vote target was at L-1? There's a cliche about pots and kettles. :)

Take yer time reading up on the thread.....family comes first, after all.
Oh, and I also wanted to say that i'm glad to hear yer dad is doing somewhat better. :)