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Not having friends doesn't help, any logged in user can just go through all users using: https://www.gog.com/u/USERNAME

From the looks of it the defaults have been changed to "only me".
The profile page still shows number of games, achievements and hours played.
If active the profile page still leaks friends, as you can see here: https://www.gog.com/u/Jeysie
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hollunder: Not having friends doesn't help, any logged in user can just go through all users using: https://www.gog.com/u/USERNAME
LOL, there actually is a user named "Username".
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Gersen: Concerning Steam there are rumors that it was to kill Steamspy who was "leaking" information sales that publishers didn't want to disclose
I was honestly surprised how quickly the Steamspy creator quit once that happened. Sure, initially when it happened it meant the site wouldn't be able to do anything for a while but surely after a month or 2-3 there'd be enough public profiles again to draw some interesting data from.

It'd likely never reach the point it used to be before anymore so it wouldn't be as representative anymore, but I'm still surprised how quickly the plug was pulled.
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Breja: I said it so many times already over the course of all this. It has nothing to do with "incriminating". What the data in question is is not the point. "It's not that I have anything to hide. I just have nothing I want you to see". That's how real privacy works. Just because something isn't important, incriminating of sensitive, doesn't mean it's ok to have it be made public without your express permission.

The fact that you no longer even comprehend what real privacy is or why it's important is the best proof of that erosion of privacy I'm talking about. We live in a world where people not only don't treasure their privacy, they no longer even understand the concept. It's downright orwellian.
Trying to honor Jeysie's wish to not be quoted into oblivion, but the major points just keep flying over some people's heads. Maybe that is indeed because, like you both have stated in some form, a rounded sensible concept of privacy can not fit into the square heads the last 20 years have formed.

But literally everyone will have to understand why the facebook/Cambridge Analytica scandal was such a horrifying wakeup call: because completely harmless data was mined and used. Your social network, your hobbies, your interests, your everyday chats. Nothing "sensitive" at all. Names and addresses, completely irrelevant to the ploy. But what can be used for targeted marketing can be and in this case was used for manipulating your world view just as well. We should draw the conclusion that we need new guards and new standards.

And literally everyone should muster up some understanding for the disappointment some GOG users feel, as the fight for privacy and the fight against invasive DRM measures are one and the same thing. Partnering up with facebook? "Opt-out" privacy violations? User stats that are always displayed regardless of privacy settings? I'm still hoping it's an April fools joke. They can't be serious. This is all wildly against GOG's much proclaimed company values. We need a sign that these still exist in a form that's not a wildly paradox cardboard backdrop against all manners of Steam, facebook and Polish autocratic government shenannigans.

Jeysie's right when she says that we can't go back to how it was 20 years ago. The internet has changed things forever. That is the truth. Then again, GOG is still holding on to an antiquated idea of game ownership by supplying DRM free installers. Yet concerning privacy, they'd need to instigate that paradigm shift that Jeysie was talking about. They need to make a fucking effort. Instead, they're trying hard to become some form of Steam, without all the AAA publishers of course.
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Fairfox: tho lolz at teh guy who doesnt even use fb havin' issues. again seems moar a general fb thang twisted to gogie
mah private-feelz!
lulz! hilarious...

Facebook: 3 reasons we're tracking non-users
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Vainamoinen: They need to make a fucking effort. Instead, they're trying hard to become some form of Steam, without all the AAA publishers of course.
Trying to be Steam without the AAA games and the competence of a well run site. The fact that Profiles aren't integrated into all the interfaces where it makes sense to have them, for instance the friends page or chat page.

Other more widespread problems plague this site, and it's just more of the half-assed implementation of something by GOG. Like they didn't plan THIS far into the release of the feature. It amazes me sometimes how amateur GOG still is at so many things.
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Fairfox: i meant non-fb user obvs naht loggin' in with gogie integration-station
As opposed to a non-FB user who does log in with a FB account?
I must be missing something...
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elcook: So there is a very cool and nice feature coming to GOG
Shouldn't you have something to say about the shitstorm that is happening RIGHT NOW in the forum about this half-assed attempt of placing a controversial feature in?

In fact, shouldn't you guys have listened to the privacy concerns that were raised in this thread in the very FIRST page?

Why did you guys fly six users to Warsaw and promise you're trying to do better to the community if you're just going to ignore us now? Maybe you just forgot to mention that "community" meant the mass of steam users you were going to direct your efforts into bringing here, at the cost of the current userbase?

The fact you guys are silently waiting for the angry mob to subside reeks much more than the stupid decisions that led to the backlash this feature is getting. STOP HIDING and come tell your users "We messed up. Badly"

I may be wrong about this but I believe your userbase is not composed mostly of social butterflies. The fact you're just giving us a big middle finger won't go lightly with the mass of people who have spent the better part of the last ten years buying their games here. It's alright to have a new feature, even if a controversial one. It's not alright to have it forced on us, and with a staggering disregard for our privacy to boot. You'd better enter damage mitigation FAST.
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Desmight: Let's say that a thief could be more interested in an account with 2000 games than an account with only 35-40 games. It's just hypothetical, but it's still private info. There's no need to be paranoid like other people in the thread, though.
Password manager, good eye and common sense during browsing, email aliases, secure nix-based OS. If that doesn't help - GOG customer support to get the account back. Accounts are not really physical, everything can be reversed.

Displaying the games you own allows for some interesting conversations, Sure one should be able to ON/OFF anything, but there are big advantages in keeping it on, its not very different from having public wishlist.

I mean, its GOG - site to buy and discuss games.
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paladin181: Trying to be Steam without the AAA games and the competence of a well run site.
I was thinking about just this issue while listening to an interview with some FB exec this morning on my commute.

FB, for all their screwups and oversteps, has teams and teams of staff tackling different aspects of how to try to make social media work - even fairly basic things like moderating standards. And when they screw it up, they have a team of lawyers and PR folks to trundle out for display.

However I might feel about the intent of what GOG is trying to do, it's hard to get around how ill-equipped they seem to actually pull off even the basics, with this forum perhaps as case in point.

As a backwater standalone forum, it has its charms despite the peeling paint and the questionable odors wafting up from under the floorboards. Let's face it - that's the reason some of us are here.

But it doesn't really set high expectation that the owners can turn it around into a posh B&B - aside from the question many have raised of whether they would even want to still hang out here if GOG pulls it off.
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elcook: The announcement is now live: https://www.gog.com/news/introducing_gog_profiles

We wanted to soft launch it and make all the necessary fixes, that's why the delay. Hope you like the feature.
A tad belated, but I just had to thank you for not only listening to our feedback, but taking it to heart and putting it to good use. Also, for answering our questions and providing the requested clarifications in detail. All well ahead of launching these new social features.
The way you communicated and implemented these truly demonstrates it.
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ThorChild: [...] Also maybe add a note in the privacy settings that having 'friends' can leak this data, and that it is an option for better data security to have 'no friends' listed. [...]
The leak is by design, and they'll never ever add such a warning; everything said has to have a positive vibe and spin.


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Pheace: This is the part I think they're most likely to change since it's actively encouraging people to remove their friends rather than add more of them.
Oh, the sweet irony.
Post edited April 25, 2018 by HypersomniacLive
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HypersomniacLive: Oh, the sweet irony.
Yes. I removed everyone that has a public profile.


Good job, GOG. Congratulations on another excellent piece of engineering. You have to be really proud of yourselves.