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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 29, 2016
Congratulations for the idea of selling betas to dumbasses.

Following Valve in every bad move ever possible.

The people should be payed for testing unfinished games, helping the developers to make a better one.

And next year, we will get tiny DRM, hm?

And don't let me start about your "generous" refund policy. It would be one, if you said 14 days after RELEASE day. A project can go wrong in so many ways, and a game can shift to something you do not want to play any longer -> darkest Dungeon, as example.

If that happens the people do not get paid in any way, they even loose all their money. The developers have their money, and are at NO risk at all, and don't even need to listen to the suggestions of all people.

In short, this is BS.
Post edited January 29, 2016 by mkess
Posted January 29, 2016
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GOG.com: The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.
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yogsloth: Oh good, the fully optional client is required to manage the new GOG greenlight games.

Joy.
I don't think you understand the definition of required... is it helpful? Sure. It's in no way required, the same as it isn't for finished buggy ass games we have now.
Post edited January 29, 2016 by user deleted
Posted January 29, 2016
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Matruchus: And so early access arrives to gog :) Well, Ashes of Singularity looks definitely a game I would like. Does this work without Galaxy or is it mandatory for gog early access games?
Wow pretty late coming. Was wondering what this 22 page thread was about.Hooray!.. Oh there will be haters coming on......
Posted January 29, 2016
It's times like these that I loathe the non gated review system. People are just going to 1 star games out of spite for the games in development feature.
Posted January 29, 2016
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Vojtas: Why? Because you wanted DRM-free games, right?
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Breja: Yes. And no clients. No achievements. No Early Access. All the stuff I consider to be making gaming worse and worse.
All of these things are optional. Besides client doesn't force to you to stay online or it doesn't need to be launched in order to play - it can be used only as a download manager. It allows you to reverse changes introduced in patches - those can be installed manually. Achievements - it really bothers you that someone likes that stuff? What is wrong with achievements? Why are games worse because of them?

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Breja: What appealed to me about GOG was that it was not just "Steam without DRM".
GOG is a distribution service still very different than Steam. It has not only different games and approach to selling products, but whole site has different atmosphere. Steam is like melting pot, with too many ingredients and too many cooks.

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Vojtas: That's your opinion and it's a false one. World is not black or white.
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Breja: No, it isn't. That statement is true, and does not apply here at all. Buying unfinished games has had a disasterous effect on the quality of games overall.
Why's that? EAccess is limited to the devs who don't have enough money to finish the project. You would never see many niche games, that are keeping alive whole subgenres (e.g. classic cRPGs) without EAccess program.

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Breja: That's a fact.
No, that's your opinion. I'm guessing you're an enemy of crowdfunding too. Well, that's a pity, because many awesome games wouldn't be possible without money of publishers. There's always risk involved, but again, scammers are everywhere in this world.
Posted January 29, 2016
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micktiegs_8: It's times like these that I loathe the non gated review system. People are just going to 1 star games out of spite for the games in development feature.
If there is one thing that NEEDS to happen it's reviews need to be disabled until release or at the very least be a verified purchase and/or marked as a EA review.
Posted January 29, 2016
Provided that there's strong quality control, I wouldn't be against Early Access
the 14 day return policy also helps.
But if GoG ends up being like steam when it comes to early acess titles i think im finished buying games here.
Theres so much crap and bloatware on steam that im already going crazy by looking at the gamelist over there.

I guess il take the wait and see aproach for now.
Post edited January 29, 2016 by Lodium
Posted January 29, 2016
Thanks for bringing Early access to GOG GOG :D.
Please always keep quality control over who gets to be on GOG pls.. we dont want it go the way the other place has (full of clone games... really shite ones etc..uno what i mean)...

Having said that only one of the games listed a bit iffy Terratech...the others are strong choices
Posted January 29, 2016
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Breja: Yes. And no clients. No achievements. No Early Access. All the stuff I consider to be making gaming worse and worse.
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Vojtas: All of these things are optional. Besides client doesn't force to you to stay online or it doesn't need to be launched in order to play - it can be used only as a download manager. It allows you to reverse changes introduced in patches - those can be installed manually. Achievements - it really bothers you that someone likes that stuff? What is wrong with achievements? Why are games worse because of them?
Yay! You died for the first time! Have a pointless virtual sticker! Yay, you jumped over something 50 times! Have a gold star!

Yes, it bothers me. It's stupid, pointles and dumbs down gaming. It bothers me that people get hooked on this idiocy. It's infantile, and it spreading means infantilising of gaming in general. That's the problem with all of those things- yes, they may be optional, but as they spread gaming is changing with them. It's getting more "social" and infantile. I may not have to pre-order games or buy in early access, but this spreading culture of buying unfinished or as yet non-existant products is changing, in fact already has changed gaming. If you don't see the connection between it and theincreasing number of disastrous releases of games "finished" in name only, you're fooling yourself.

I used to love GOG because I saw it as a heaven for a different philosphy of gaming. Philosophy devote to quality and old-school sensibilities. That heaven is gone.

Yes, I admit that there are upsides to early access and crowdfunding. Liek you said before- the world isn't black and white. I'm not stupid, I'm not going to pretend it is, and the things I don't like are evil incarnate. But I do believe there's more bad than good about them.
Post edited January 29, 2016 by Breja
Posted January 29, 2016
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Breja: [...] Buying unfinished games has had a disasterous effect on the quality of games overall. That's a fact.
If you ever want to look back at things, and wonder when you lost all credibility - it was right here.
Post edited January 29, 2016 by amok
Posted January 29, 2016
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Breja: [...] Buying unfinished games has had a disasterous effect on the quality of games overall. That's a fact.
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amok: If you ever want to look back at things, and wonder when you lost all credibility, it was right here.
Why thanks. As soon as I find yours, I'll make sure to care about what you just said.
Posted January 29, 2016
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Breja: [...] Buying unfinished games has had a disasterous effect on the quality of games overall. That's a fact.
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amok: If you ever want to look back at things, and wonder when you lost all credibility - it was right here.
This. Some people take this shit way to seriously. There games, it's not worth all this hostility for crap you can ignore.
Posted January 29, 2016
I want a setting where I can say "Never show an Early Access game to me. Ever."
Posted January 29, 2016
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amok: If you ever want to look back at things, and wonder when you lost all credibility, it was right here.
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Breja: Why thanks. As soon as I find yours, I'll make sure to care about what you just said.
Ah, I sold mine for a cup of coffee a couple of years ago, I have no delusions...
Which is why I can spot when others loose theirs.
Posted January 29, 2016
Okay when I first saw this new feature I was a little upset. I hate early access on Steam and will not buy early access games. I was always uncomfortable with early access and was proven right when Double Fine just stopped development on Space Base DF-9. They just declared it done and walked away with the cash. It is still for sale on Steam and it is reported to be an unfinished mess.

I did review what GOG has done with "In Development" and I have to give them credit for trying to create a fair system. The system in place won't stop another Space Base DF-9 from happening, but it will reduce the risk. So I'm going to give GOG a pass on this. I still won't buy "In Development" games, but if other people want to I won't try to stop them.

One request GOG please make the "In Development" notice larger and have it stand out more. That is one thing that Steam does well, the notice for Early Access is large and has a different background colour to draw the eye.
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