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Posted October 04, 2015
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Leonard03: The reason.
:D
Please don't link to sites with auto-playing videos.
Posted October 04, 2015
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hedwards: As an English teacher I can't help but notice that he's asserting that dangling participles is a word crime. Erm, no, that has never been a rule in English.
...but it has always been a crime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
Posted October 04, 2015
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DieRuhe: Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
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timppu: Comma's fuckers do.

Sorry that makes sense only in Finnish, and even then only barely. Keyword "pilkunnussijat".
Why does Finnish always look like a trainwreck of letters? Looks like someone put Earth words and Martian words into a particle accelerator and crashed them into each other at Zero + everything miles per infinity.
Posted October 04, 2015
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DieRuhe: Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
http://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/fuck_you_all_giveaway/page7

Read posts 130 and 131.
Posted October 04, 2015
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DieRuhe: Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
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BlueMooner: http://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/fuck_you_all_giveaway/page7

Read posts 130 and 131.
You must have felt very good after that. Especially to remember about it 2 years later. +1
Posted October 04, 2015
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DieRuhe: When I write book reviews I don't use them because the newspaper doesn't like them, but in everything else I write I do because to me it more closely follows the cadence of speaking.

I just read a good example. Say you're dedicating a book and you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God." To me, that's indicating that your parents are Ayn Rand and God. But if you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God" there is no faulty interpretation. Of course, you could reverse the sentence to eliminate the ambiguity and the Oxford - "To Ayn Rand, God and my parents" so a lot of it comes down to how you actually construct sentences.

Seems there are a lot of well-known style guides that are pro-Oxford, but for some reason this often gets overlooked in favor the AP "no Oxford" approach.
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Crewdroog: :(
i said unless you really need it, i know the examples. I am educated (this is grammar school stuff). lit people and writers are so pretentious. ;) hahahaha (joke, I am one of those people...)

further, the 'and' works as a comma, so the person will pause appropriately. Anyways, do you really pause any differently when you read the two sentences? I don't.

Besides, having a comma after and just looks cluttered. And what if you do believe Ayn Rand and god are your parents? huh? what then? ;) Context is also a big thing here. Your brain is an awesome organ and can figure out what the author meant. No one reading the sentence, "I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand and God" for a minute thought the person meant that those two were his parents. You can't hear commas after 'and' in speech and no one is confused. Soooo, unnecessary! :)

Edit: I love how THIS is our big thing in the writing community. we are so weird. a comma? that's the big debate? lol
LOL. But I'm talking about a comma before 'and,' not after. Unless you meant "Rand" as in the example. Nobody in their right mind puts a comma after 'and.' :-)

And yes, I really do read things differently depending upon if there's a comma or not. I'm constantly told to stop being so literal, and I guess that applies to reading as well! If I see "apples, oranges, and grapes" that sounds (in my head) perfectly right; if I see "apples, oranges and grapes" then I interpret it as "apples, orangesandgrapes." But yes, I'm weird.
Posted October 05, 2015
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toxicTom: You know that Wolfenstein has arrived on GOG? I'm not sure if Blazkowicz knows the difference between grammar nazis and the other kind...

But nice video :-)
Was that a threat O.o

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tremere110: Their is know weigh your gonna arrest me. Nice tri though.

:p
You're right, you are getting the electric chair. :P

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Magnitus: Sometimes, it's hard to tell.

I write English very well, but English is still my second language. My English was abysmal until I was 13. After that, I learned English informally through various sources. I did take advanced English in my fourth year of high school, but they were well past the point where they analysed the finer points of grammar formally... so instead it was mostly about reading books and writing essays so I would pretty much learn by trial and error based on the mistakes I did with the essays.

It happens less and less over time, but occasionally, I'll still do a mistake that will throw a native English speaker aback. Of course, it doesn't help either that I have to hold two separate languages in my mind (sometimes, there is the occasional crossover).

Sometimes, people are lazy and you can tell right away (ie, 'u' instead of 'you'), but do try to give posters the benefit of the doubt.
I really actually don't care (that) much about how people post. Mostly I just wanted to share the video which I thought was hilarious. :)


Also, I always use the oxford comma, though up until now I didn't even realize that's what it was called...
Post edited October 05, 2015 by Leonard03
Posted October 05, 2015
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Crewdroog: :(
i said unless you really need it, i know the examples. I am educated (this is grammar school stuff). lit people and writers are so pretentious. ;) hahahaha (joke, I am one of those people...)

further, the 'and' works as a comma, so the person will pause appropriately. Anyways, do you really pause any differently when you read the two sentences? I don't.

Besides, having a comma after and just looks cluttered. And what if you do believe Ayn Rand and god are your parents? huh? what then? ;) Context is also a big thing here. Your brain is an awesome organ and can figure out what the author meant. No one reading the sentence, "I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand and God" for a minute thought the person meant that those two were his parents. You can't hear commas after 'and' in speech and no one is confused. Soooo, unnecessary! :)

Edit: I love how THIS is our big thing in the writing community. we are so weird. a comma? that's the big debate? lol
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DieRuhe: LOL. But I'm talking about a comma before 'and,' not after. Unless you meant "Rand" as in the example. Nobody in their right mind puts a comma after 'and.' :-)

And yes, I really do read things differently depending upon if there's a comma or not. I'm constantly told to stop being so literal, and I guess that applies to reading as well! If I see "apples, oranges, and grapes" that sounds (in my head) perfectly right; if I see "apples, oranges and grapes" then I interpret it as "apples, orangesandgrapes." But yes, I'm weird.
LOL i'm an idiot, I meant before. hahahahaaha good catch, you win! :)

it's ok weird is good :)
Posted October 05, 2015
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Leonard03: The reason.
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What about people with brain damage, Idiot? Did you ever think of that?
Posted October 05, 2015
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Crewdroog: I will be writing down everyone's pet peeves and making sure to use them regularly. Thanks! :)

That video was awesome and I love weird al.
Weird Al is awesome. Period.
Posted October 05, 2015
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Crewdroog: I will be writing down everyone's pet peeves and making sure to use them regularly. Thanks! :)

That video was awesome and I love weird al.
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Leucius: Weird Al is awesome. Period.
period.

:)
Posted October 05, 2015
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Crewdroog: I will be writing down everyone's pet peeves and making sure to use them regularly. Thanks! :)

That video was awesome and I love weird al.
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Leucius: Weird Al is awesome. Period.
Period, hmmm, there's got to be a joke in there somewhere.
Posted October 05, 2015
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011284mm: You must have felt very good after that. Especially to remember about it 2 years later. +1
My moments are few and far between. Plus, I haven't made a whole lot of comma comments in my life.
Posted October 05, 2015
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chadjenofsky: What are your views on the Oxford comma?
I'm going to jump on in this one, because as a bilingual translator, a lot the attitudes towards the Oxford comma really get my back up at times.

The rules I generally tend to observe are the Oxford rule for UK English, which says don't use the serial comma (oh, the irony!), and the Chicago Manual of Style rule for US English, which says that you should use it. I have been known to deviate from the standard from time to time.

I'll use it when it's necessary to eliminate ambiguity or when the last item in the list contains a set phrase that uses a coordinating conjunction like "and" (e.g. black and white), or when the serial comma, and I'll leave it out if it looks shit or is a bit jarring when reading it out loud.
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hedwards: That's basically the only case where you need to use the Oxford comma.
Well, no, you absolutely need the comma for any ditransitive verb when you're not appending a direct object predicate, whether leaving the comma out is unintentionally hilarious or not, because the vocative there can still be mistaken for the direct object.

You can just about get away with leaving it out with a strictly intransitive or strictly transitive verb (because you'll either know that no object is expected, or there'll already be a direct object to make it clear that we're not eating grandma, e.g. "Let's eat dinner Grandma!"), even if it is does look sloppy.

That wouldn't be an Oxford comma anyway - that's just a simple comma. An Oxford comma would be "Peter, Paul, and Mary" as opposed to the UK standard of "Peter, Paul and Mary".
Post edited October 05, 2015 by jamyskis
Posted October 05, 2015
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hedwards: Period, hmmm, there's got to be a joke in there somewhere.
There could be several, one of them being that "period" is specifically US English and would be wrong in UK English.

I'm reminded of that classic scene in The 51st State where Robert Carlyle looks at Samuel L. Jackson in a kilt, offers him a pack of cigarettes and asks him "fag?" A classic example of UK-US double entendre.
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