idbeholdME: When discussing this with someone, I ask them "Try to unplug your internet and then play your games. Guess what happens?". But it usually falls on deaf ears.

supp99: Your entire site exists because the game industry are thieves. The reason steam came into existence is because gabe newell was 200 miles + away from the gaming community in 2004, don't try and pretend he didn't just steal our software when he knew damn well we couldn't reach him when he gave us the patch of doom in 2004. I had to watch in righteous fury as that fuck transformed videogame history. Capitalism as you understand is over, the internet has finally broke any ability to hold software companies accountable. That's why are human rights are going away thanks to the internet and mass stupidity. Our freedom is literally being rescinded by an out of control oligarchy, anyone with any inkling of an IQ would be mad that our entire species is enabling corporate lawlessness.

You even named our own campaign the FCK DRM campaign, so try to at least be aware that capitalism is failing worldwide in terms of having any rule of law whatsoever in all capitalist states.

supp99: Everyone who has responded has not added anything to the discussion, just more corporate cocksucking. Do any of you care about game ownership? It's a yes or no kind of question. Thats the only thing those who 'disagreed' with what I wrote need to reply to. That somehow drm has been at all positive for games is bullshit. Too many UO, EQ or butthurt mmo players among those replying since they were PC gamings original cancer. That's why diablo 3 is a game totally controlled by blizzard and diablo 2 is not. There can be no "intellectual argument" with an argument as simple as - simply don't give up your rights to own shit.

Yeshu: The general idea is that modern gamers don't buy physical copies.

However, the problem seams to be that it's not about gamers not wanting to buy boxed games, but that those boxes (especially PC versions) do not provide anything beyond a game disc that doesn't even have the whole game on it. Or heck, I saw empty DVD boxex with a code inside (Tekken 7) or even just a Steam Installer file on the disc.

In the end it's mostly publishers wanting to kill of the used games market and maximize profit by all means necessary.

I'm maybe an old fart but give me nicely designed box, all the game files (optical disc, SD memory card or whatever) a manual that provides some insight in the game and maybe a poster or something similar and I will buy that $hitt up.

Basically the Wither Games box sets.

bloodbowl: For this day and age, I just don't see any appeal at all in having physical copies of the games anymore. They occupy a lot of space and are completly unecessary. I'm not exactly very old (I'm in my mids twenties), so perhaps I'm not part of the generation where physical copies were the only choice, but still...

Having games on Steam, GOG or whatever other service is far more convienient. Physical copies, today, only cater to a specific demographic of people, at least as far PC gaming goes, so I don't think there's really any point in trying to convince the modern gamer in getting gaming boxes because most of them couldn't care less.

I also think it's a very dumb argument to come here and say:

-huh... wut about ur interne connection? if someone removes that, how u gonna play dem games?

I mean... come on. Unless you live in a location where internet is really hard to come by, this is hardly an issue. There are some days where I do have issues with my connection, but not only it rarely happens, it's usually solved in the same day. I'm pretty sure most people here are, most of the time, always able to stay connected, so I don't really see how this should be an issue. Maybe if you are constantly traveling and is always on the road where you won't have connection... but then again, you can still use steam offline and still have some of your GOG games pre-installed as well.

But yeah. I don't find physical copies appealing. They are nuisance to deal with.

edit: btw, just noticed that this thread was necroed by the other dude. oh well. sorry about that.

flatiron: Probably do want the physical disks. These horrid turd companies just won't sell like that any longer.
flatiron: Honestly, no one cares about cussing except neurotics like you. I mean, you have a site full of games with blood, gore, and sex in them...

and now you want to get all preachy about cussing?

Pull your head outta your but and think about the context in which you make such ridiculous demands.

zgrillo2004: Dont you think thats going too far? I understand that the majority of adults roam the forums but there are some people who are under 18 who view these forums.

flatiron: And they also play the games and watch the TV and live in the world full of violence, sex and cussing. One cuss word in a text wall is no big deal.