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Matruchus: Nvidia - bad quality graphic cards all died on me under a year since purchase, also very bad linux drivers
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Klumpen0815: Hm? I have the most terrible experience with AMD graphics drivers (WinXP and Linux), but Nvidia's proprietary Linux driver runs extremely well (Geforce GTX 750). I finished Shadow Warrior 2013 and Trine 2 in highest settings on my 2008 triple core system with it.
Interesting. I had quite the opposite experience. With AMD R9 270x that I have now everything works on Linux with proprietary AMD drivers and yes on high settings. But I think it all depends on the hardware package we have in our pcs not just the graphic card.
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Klumpen0815: Hm? I have the most terrible experience with AMD graphics drivers (WinXP and Linux), but Nvidia's proprietary Linux driver runs extremely well (Geforce GTX 750). I finished Shadow Warrior 2013 and Trine 2 in highest settings on my 2008 triple core system with it.
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Matruchus: Interesting. I had quite the opposite experience. With AMD R9 270x that I have now everything works on Linux with proprietary AMD drivers and yes on high settings. But I think it all depends on the hardware package we have in our pcs not just the graphic card.
Linux GPU drivers in a nutshell
Post edited March 08, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Niggles: Nvidia. Hardware always substandard compared to ATI (ATI drops the balls on drivers and always have -- rather this than reverse).
Yeah, that's the way I see it. Only for me that makes AMD GPUs condemnable and to be avoided at all costs and Nvidia the defacto stalwart option. Drivers are vital.
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skeletonbow: Shit, this is so therapeutic reading everyone else's more or less identical crappy experiences and opinions of Razer. I feel like I'm healing from the suffering Razer caused me now. :)
Yeah, it seems Razer are a lot worse than I realised. How could such a substandard company with substandard products get to be so full of itself as to have driver that require an internet connection? I mean it's a physical fucking product. You don't need DRM in that.
Post edited March 08, 2016 by Navagon
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Gnostic: I never had a 18' so I had been curious to try. Had you tried 18' and 17'? are they almost the same?
I wouldn't buy a laptop based on monitor size. I'm very partial to companies like OriginPC personally cause they have an awesome team and a lifetime warranty for US buyers (2 or so for international). But there are lots of good brands to choose from.

Out of your choices I'd recommend you to go for Alienware just cause you won't be supporting a company that's partnered with a company where the users sell fraudulent GOG codes. Add another -$2,000+ to the tally of justice! :D
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Navagon: Yeah, that's the way I see it. Only for me that makes AMD GPUs condemnable and to be avoided at all costs and Nvidia the defacto stalwart option. Drivers are vital.
Yeah, it seems Razer are a lot worse than I realised. How could such a substandard company with substandard products get to be so full of itself as to have driver that require an internet connection? I mean it's a physical fucking product. You don't need DRM in that.
I have to admit that I was completely shocked and dumbfounded when I discovered that. I mean, I never would have thought I had to research that sort of thing before buying a f'ing *mouse*. Seriously!

I had seen some fancy gaming mice for years, in particular one called the "Warmouse" which I believe is no longer around, and it had a zillion buttons on it that got me all excited at the idea of buying one, but I wasn't in a hurry. A few years passed and I was gaming again and looking at new hardware etc. and fancy gaming mice came up and I thought of the Warmouse and went out there to see what else was out there. Of course Razer showed up everywhere and had these snazzy looking very aesthetically pleasing designs that looked high tech and high quality. I did some reading and they seemed to get great reviews but I obviously did not dig deep enough... but then it's a friggen mouse! I didn't think I would _need_ to dig deeper. Their product is put together to LOOK very attractive, as is the extremely nice packaging they wrap it up in although I didn't give a crap about that. It's clear to me now that they focus their effort on selling an idea, a nice looking package and nice looking product, but don't have the hardware nor software engineering skills to back it up with something reliable and robust that works without crashing, and just as importantly, works without requiring a mandatory Internet connection to use it.

I was so angry it's not funny. Then their lame support was just next-level shitfest, it was atrocious. I think the guy I was talking to is the same guy that calls here trying to tell me my computer has a virus or I am a valued customer of some airline I've never used, or that I've won a trip to Bermuda or whatever.

Never again! Logitech from now on. The thing is I've always loved Logitech, but I just had no idea they even made mice like this or I'd have never experienced this problem in the first place. That mistake is on me though. But... never again! :)
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Gnostic: I never had a 18' so I had been curious to try. Had you tried 18' and 17'? are they almost the same?
Wow, a laptop with a 17 to 18 foot screen must be massive! Doesn't that hurt the lap at all? :)
Post edited March 08, 2016 by skeletonbow
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skeletonbow: Never again! Logitech from now on. The thing is I've always loved Logitech, but I just had no idea they even made mice like this or I'd have never experienced this problem in the first place. That mistake is on me though. But... never again! :)
If you ever need an alternative, Steelseries are fantastic. They're especially good for me as a lefty. Which is also why Logitech aren't so great for me.
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Navagon: If you ever need an alternative, Steelseries are fantastic. They're especially good for me as a lefty. Which is also why Logitech aren't so great for me.
I've heard of them but never seen any of their stuff in person. I'm quite the gearhead though and love hardware with 13234823947 buttons and dials on it, so if someone makes a 57 button mouse with faders on it, dials, and lasers shooting out of all 4 sides I'll probably buy it. LOL
GE makes poor quality appliances, where it be washing machines, dryers, microwaves or others. Off the top of my head the only thing of theirs I've never had a problem with is my alarm clock radio.

I won't buy Apple products. Too costly, too closed, and generally not compatible with my other stuff.

Beyond that I'm fairly agnostic towards companies.
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MaximumBunny: I'm very partial to companies like OriginPC personally cause they have an awesome team and a lifetime warranty for US buyers (2 or so for international). But there are lots of good brands to choose from.
As someone who buys a gaming laptop to last 5 years, the lifetime warranty is good to hear about. I shall be checking into OriginPC when it comes time to replace this Dell workhorse. Thanks for mentioning that detail.
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skeletonbow: Never again! Logitech from now on. The thing is I've always loved Logitech, but I just had no idea they even made mice like this or I'd have never experienced this problem in the first place. That mistake is on me though. But... never again! :)
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Navagon: If you ever need an alternative, Steelseries are fantastic. They're especially good for me as a lefty. Which is also why Logitech aren't so great for me.
Also if you want to alternate your mouse between right and left hand use. I've a Steelseries Sensei RAW and it's a wonderful robust, simple yet very sturdy and precise mouse.
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DubConqueror: Also if you want to alternate your mouse between right and left hand use. I've a Steelseries Sensei RAW and it's a wonderful robust, simple yet very sturdy and precise mouse.
I wouldn't want to do that... however you got me thinking... TWO 20 button MICE! Now that would be cool! One for each hand. :)
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DubConqueror: Also if you want to alternate your mouse between right and left hand use. I've a Steelseries Sensei RAW and it's a wonderful robust, simple yet very sturdy and precise mouse.
Barring some technological leap causing incompatibilities, I can see my XAI Laser lasting many more years.
If I no longer dealt with companies I had a bad support experience with, I can't think of one company I'd still be buying from. Often, that kind of thing is down to the agent. Then again, one company I will never support and will not provide support for is Acer. Garbage quality on every one of their products I've ever worked on. I've let every one of my family and friends that have asked for my opinion know exactly what I think, why and that if they buy one, I will not provide any kind of support when it fails.
Apple

I won't buy any Apple product, ever!

Years ago i had an Ipaq. It was about 4 years old at the time this happened.....

Apple created a new operating system designed in such a way that it cannot work on the old Ipaq. Also they made sure third party programs updated for this new operating system should not be able to work on the old Ipaq.

One of the third part software i was using stopped working, I complained why it doesn't work, they said ii is not their fault, i have to buy a new Ipaq

I will not be held hostage by any company to be forced to by their new product, any such company that thinks that way can get fxxxed and i will never ever ever be a customer to them.
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Navagon: Yeah, that's the way I see it. Only for me that makes AMD GPUs condemnable and to be avoided at all costs and Nvidia the defacto stalwart option. Drivers are vital.
Yeah, it seems Razer are a lot worse than I realised. How could such a substandard company with substandard products get to be so full of itself as to have driver that require an internet connection? I mean it's a physical fucking product. You don't need DRM in that.
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skeletonbow: I have to admit that I was completely shocked and dumbfounded when I discovered that. I mean, I never would have thought I had to research that sort of thing before buying a f'ing *mouse*. Seriously!

I had seen some fancy gaming mice for years, in particular one called the "Warmouse" which I believe is no longer around, and it had a zillion buttons on it that got me all excited at the idea of buying one, but I wasn't in a hurry. A few years passed and I was gaming again and looking at new hardware etc. and fancy gaming mice came up and I thought of the Warmouse and went out there to see what else was out there. Of course Razer showed up everywhere and had these snazzy looking very aesthetically pleasing designs that looked high tech and high quality. I did some reading and they seemed to get great reviews but I obviously did not dig deep enough... but then it's a friggen mouse! I didn't think I would _need_ to dig deeper. Their product is put together to LOOK very attractive, as is the extremely nice packaging they wrap it up in although I didn't give a crap about that. It's clear to me now that they focus their effort on selling an idea, a nice looking package and nice looking product, but don't have the hardware nor software engineering skills to back it up with something reliable and robust that works without crashing, and just as importantly, works without requiring a mandatory Internet connection to use it.

I was so angry it's not funny. Then their lame support was just next-level shitfest, it was atrocious. I think the guy I was talking to is the same guy that calls here trying to tell me my computer has a virus or I am a valued customer of some airline I've never used, or that I've won a trip to Bermuda or whatever.

Never again! Logitech from now on. The thing is I've always loved Logitech, but I just had no idea they even made mice like this or I'd have never experienced this problem in the first place. That mistake is on me though. But... never again! :)
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Gnostic: I never had a 18' so I had been curious to try. Had you tried 18' and 17'? are they almost the same?
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skeletonbow: Wow, a laptop with a 17 to 18 foot screen must be massive! Doesn't that hurt the lap at all? :)
Currently I am using an ultra thin Asus laptop, even though I have good spec, the laptop easily heat up and go BSOD on me. I have to literally blow the fan to its ventilator to play some Supcom / Front Mission Evolved, Fallen Enchantress and some 5 year old games. For me to play without the fan, it is usually 10 years old games.

Then I realize light & thin come at a cost, So I gladly accept heavy and massive as a good trade off. If not for safe and easy transition in aeroplane, I would even consider a portable desktop.

For light and thin, no laptop can compete with smartphone & tablet so why bother?