Posted July 01, 2015
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Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted July 01, 2015
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Just install a 32-bit version of Linux and WINE inside the VM, and then you can use it to play games. I got Exile: Escape from the Pit to work this way.
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victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of
Posted July 02, 2015
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I prefer native ports myself but if there's no other alternative I won't complain about Wine, it enables me to play the games I enjoyed on Windows while using Linux as my only OS, a Win-Win situation.
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jsjrodman
dorkface
Registered: Dec 2011
From United States
Posted July 03, 2015
As Maighstir pointed out, I was theorizing. It seems this isn't practical yet. I would have posted to say "yes you're right", but it seemed too low-value and defensive.
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The Big Man
Registered: May 2013
From United States
Posted July 03, 2015
The truth of the matter is while new games might get a linux version, a vast majority of GOGs catalog will not get a native linux port. I don't mind WINE being used as long as it officially supported by GOG, so I'm fine with it being used to get these games on linux. This should make that process much easier and hopefully GOG can get more publishers to allow them to release games using WINE for linux. That is what keeps me from jumping full into linux right now, out of all my games... near 100, only like 15 are compatible.
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Shmacky-McNuts
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From United States
Posted July 03, 2015
Well you can run Ultima 7 better on modern machines. I'm sure there are some games that don't do so well from one older version of windows to modern as they would with wine. =D
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astropup
Big Bad Puppy
Registered: Feb 2014
From Serbia
Posted July 03, 2015
TLDR: good to hear Directx 11 is coming to WINE, but I would like to hear more information on specifics. :) For now this sounds a lot like marketing speech.
Longer version:
Well, a lot of talk, but not much information. I'm glad if WINE gets Directx 10/11 support, as its Directx 9 implementation is mostly pretty solid. But he really didn't relase enough information.
I wouldn't agree with him that the criticism of WINE-wrapped "ports" is uneducated. WINE is an intermediary between the game and the OS. And that shows in many ways: Games entering a low resolution and not reseting it on exit, games not cooperating well with a window manager, problems with overlapping Windows and dialogs, problems with error messages that are below the current window and not visible, etc. And WINE's desktop integration is silly: there is no isolation of the host system or possibilty to limit the integration without ugly workarounds.
Anyway, if the game is sold WINE-wrapped, it should state so in its README or page description. A lot of Linux users are more than able to buy Windows version of the game and run it through WINE or create a menu/desktop shortcut to run it with WINE. While that already being done and packaged as a Linux package might mean a lot to newbies, common users or those less technically inclined, others might feel cheated.
And I'm not against WINE. I actually use it often. I'm just against calling a Windows game with prepackaged version of WINE "a port". Or at least note that "the port" is using WINE.
Longer version:
Well, a lot of talk, but not much information. I'm glad if WINE gets Directx 10/11 support, as its Directx 9 implementation is mostly pretty solid. But he really didn't relase enough information.
I wouldn't agree with him that the criticism of WINE-wrapped "ports" is uneducated. WINE is an intermediary between the game and the OS. And that shows in many ways: Games entering a low resolution and not reseting it on exit, games not cooperating well with a window manager, problems with overlapping Windows and dialogs, problems with error messages that are below the current window and not visible, etc. And WINE's desktop integration is silly: there is no isolation of the host system or possibilty to limit the integration without ugly workarounds.
Anyway, if the game is sold WINE-wrapped, it should state so in its README or page description. A lot of Linux users are more than able to buy Windows version of the game and run it through WINE or create a menu/desktop shortcut to run it with WINE. While that already being done and packaged as a Linux package might mean a lot to newbies, common users or those less technically inclined, others might feel cheated.
And I'm not against WINE. I actually use it often. I'm just against calling a Windows game with prepackaged version of WINE "a port". Or at least note that "the port" is using WINE.
Post edited July 03, 2015 by astropup
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hedwards
buy Evil Genius
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted July 03, 2015
Nevermind
This is good news though, it's nice to see that my subscriptions might help a bit with games here.
This is good news though, it's nice to see that my subscriptions might help a bit with games here.
Post edited July 03, 2015 by hedwards
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astropup
Big Bad Puppy
Registered: Feb 2014
From Serbia
Posted December 05, 2015
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Edit:
Sorry for necro-posting. I was searching for something and noticed I didn't see the last post.
Post edited December 05, 2015 by astropup