Posted July 01, 2015
Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
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dtgreene
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From United States
Posted July 01, 2015
jsjrodman: But also some older Windows games run very poorly on modern versions of Windows. WINE can help with that too.
Maighstir: Not quite yet. Wine on Windows still has some ways to go until it works well enough to be of any use, unless I've missed a ton of news on that front. Just install a 32-bit version of Linux and WINE inside the VM, and then you can use it to play games. I got Exile: Escape from the Pit to work this way.
victorchopin
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Posted July 02, 2015
Ganni1987: Interesting read and he does make a few valid points. Wine has come very far in recent years and it's a viable gaming solution today. On the other hand I kinda understand those who want native ports, maybe they expect to be treated the same way Windows gamers do.
I prefer native ports myself but if there's no other alternative I won't complain about Wine, it enables me to play the games I enjoyed on Windows while using Linux as my only OS, a Win-Win situation.
jsjrodman: (...) also some older Windows games run very poorly on modern versions of Windows. WINE can help with that too. I prefer native ports myself but if there's no other alternative I won't complain about Wine, it enables me to play the games I enjoyed on Windows while using Linux as my only OS, a Win-Win situation.
jsjrodman
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Posted July 03, 2015
As Maighstir pointed out, I was theorizing. It seems this isn't practical yet. I would have posted to say "yes you're right", but it seemed too low-value and defensive.
BKGaming
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From United States
Posted July 03, 2015
The truth of the matter is while new games might get a linux version, a vast majority of GOGs catalog will not get a native linux port. I don't mind WINE being used as long as it officially supported by GOG, so I'm fine with it being used to get these games on linux. This should make that process much easier and hopefully GOG can get more publishers to allow them to release games using WINE for linux. That is what keeps me from jumping full into linux right now, out of all my games... near 100, only like 15 are compatible.
Shmacky-McNuts
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Posted July 03, 2015
Well you can run Ultima 7 better on modern machines. I'm sure there are some games that don't do so well from one older version of windows to modern as they would with wine. =D
astropup
Big Bad Puppy
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Posted July 03, 2015
TLDR: good to hear Directx 11 is coming to WINE, but I would like to hear more information on specifics. :) For now this sounds a lot like marketing speech.
Longer version:
Well, a lot of talk, but not much information. I'm glad if WINE gets Directx 10/11 support, as its Directx 9 implementation is mostly pretty solid. But he really didn't relase enough information.
I wouldn't agree with him that the criticism of WINE-wrapped "ports" is uneducated. WINE is an intermediary between the game and the OS. And that shows in many ways: Games entering a low resolution and not reseting it on exit, games not cooperating well with a window manager, problems with overlapping Windows and dialogs, problems with error messages that are below the current window and not visible, etc. And WINE's desktop integration is silly: there is no isolation of the host system or possibilty to limit the integration without ugly workarounds.
Anyway, if the game is sold WINE-wrapped, it should state so in its README or page description. A lot of Linux users are more than able to buy Windows version of the game and run it through WINE or create a menu/desktop shortcut to run it with WINE. While that already being done and packaged as a Linux package might mean a lot to newbies, common users or those less technically inclined, others might feel cheated.
And I'm not against WINE. I actually use it often. I'm just against calling a Windows game with prepackaged version of WINE "a port". Or at least note that "the port" is using WINE.
Longer version:
Well, a lot of talk, but not much information. I'm glad if WINE gets Directx 10/11 support, as its Directx 9 implementation is mostly pretty solid. But he really didn't relase enough information.
I wouldn't agree with him that the criticism of WINE-wrapped "ports" is uneducated. WINE is an intermediary between the game and the OS. And that shows in many ways: Games entering a low resolution and not reseting it on exit, games not cooperating well with a window manager, problems with overlapping Windows and dialogs, problems with error messages that are below the current window and not visible, etc. And WINE's desktop integration is silly: there is no isolation of the host system or possibilty to limit the integration without ugly workarounds.
Anyway, if the game is sold WINE-wrapped, it should state so in its README or page description. A lot of Linux users are more than able to buy Windows version of the game and run it through WINE or create a menu/desktop shortcut to run it with WINE. While that already being done and packaged as a Linux package might mean a lot to newbies, common users or those less technically inclined, others might feel cheated.
And I'm not against WINE. I actually use it often. I'm just against calling a Windows game with prepackaged version of WINE "a port". Or at least note that "the port" is using WINE.
Post edited July 03, 2015 by astropup
hedwards
buy Evil Genius
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Posted July 03, 2015
Nevermind
This is good news though, it's nice to see that my subscriptions might help a bit with games here.
This is good news though, it's nice to see that my subscriptions might help a bit with games here.
Post edited July 03, 2015 by hedwards
astropup
Big Bad Puppy
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From Serbia
Posted December 05, 2015
hedwards: This is good news though, it's nice to see that my subscriptions might help a bit with games here.
And thank you for that. Honestly. I'm also considering subscribing to CxO. I use WINE very often (gaming mostly) and would like to contribute in some way too. Edit:
Sorry for necro-posting. I was searching for something and noticed I didn't see the last post.
Post edited December 05, 2015 by astropup