Well, we do know now that that wasn't what flubb was doing. Also, no one has really challenged SPF on his town-roleblocker claim. So maybe there is no one who would have reason to do so. Maybe no Doctor or Jailer exists.

About the HSL/ZFR connection, I agree that I don't see that anymore either. I speculated there was one based on the assumption that HSL was scum protecting cristi and ZFR. But since cristi was town, this assumption is moot. So whatever HSL did at the end of D1, it wasn't protecting scum-buddies. HSloth might still be scum, but that wouldn't implicate ZFR anymore.

Why?
I think Bookwyrm made a quite solid case against Joe. No matter whether that was town-Bookwyrm genuinely scum-hunting or scum-Bookwyrm playing the distancing game and driving a fake speed-train. In any case what he wrote about Joe rings true. So why do you read Joe as town?

...and will you eat some other piece of clothing if he isn't?

It's really strange how we keep seeing the same things but coming partially to opposing conclusions on that. I agree with you on one point: scum!trent is a possibility. scum!bookbooks is possible as well, although I agree with much of the analysis he provided. But I don't think that Joe is town.

Currently my list of lynchables would be, sorted by lynchability:
Joe
yogsl, trent, Bookbooks
ele, Damnation
the rest

OK. Back to work again.

OKAY Hi everybody thanks for the attention I LOVE IT.

My claim is going to perhaps be a little less credible now that you've forced it out of me, so I'll explain some of Day Three's thought processes before I claim:

FIRSTLY - The cylons will be panicking - who is panicking?

SECONDLY - If there's no doctor then SirPrimalform has blocked scum. Who did SirP block?

SCONDLY POINT FIFTHLY - Unless SirPrimalform is scum. Is SirPrimalform cylon?

THIRDLY - A panicked Cylon might be tempted to begin the day going "woah the cylons picked flubbucket, eh? bloody hell that's really surprising from my point of view, an innocent crewsmember, but I suppose it makes sense if you think about it" - why is bler so keen to analyse. Adalia also mentioned it, is that significant?

FOURTHERLY - If there's no doctor then Trent or SirP is scum - Is there a Doctor?

FIFTHTLY - Bler seems to think there's no doctor? Is he right?

SIXIXTHLY - Bler seems to think the doctor should claim? Is he right?

SEVENTHLY - Have the cylons caught on to what I'm doing yet? (Probably not likely)



[tense music]

Day three began in a very interesting way. I knew something. No other crewmembers would know it. The cylons would know it. As tempting as it was to begin the day by explaining what I knew, there was much more value in hinting, and trying to push buttons and see if there were any decent reactions.
Hopefully, with that knowledge, you guys will be better at analysing than I am.


[/music]


have you worked out what I'm about to say? If you haven't, that's a good sign - it means you're a crewmember.

I killed flubbucket
I'm Cally Henderson, Crew Hothead.


Hence why I wanted flubbucket in the brig - if I was planning to kill him I didn't want SirP to waste his block on him too.

Why did I chose flubbucket? Orange Pylon & he's unreadable & he's lurking in plain sight & it doesn't look much like he's getting lynched & he changed his picture to a frakking toaster goatslammit!!

Probably Vitek's shaking his head at me now. But it's certainly made for an interesting Day.


Is there anybody who genuinely thinks the cylons would have also picked flubbucket? It's something I'm scared of, but surely they never would???

My flavour for the kill was I went to his quarters and unloaded my handgun into the back of his head. The intro to day three doesn't suggest anything else happened to him either.


As phenomenal as it may seem, I must accept the possibility that trent is scum and SirP successfully blocked him last night


I'm a bit wary that several people have been saying town seems very powerful already, which puts a vigilante claim in question. I don't know what to say to you guys.


Trent's voting for me and SirPrimalform isn't. Trent's first post of Day Three is very easy to read imagining Trent knowing he'd been blocked and panicked, so trying to get the first blow in. Of the two, Trent seems to be behaving as though something's up. Which only a cylon would know.

OF COURSE there might be a doctor, and the doctor might have successfully protected a crew. Hence my point earlier about a doctor & a roleblocker not necessarily being overpowered.

If that is the case then bollocks.

It's a bit of a tangled mess. But I've chosen what thread of the mess I'm going to tug on.

vote Trentonlf

Lords of Kobol, protect us,

So say we all.



POSTSCRIPT - Bler seems in-the-know, and I had my back up about him. Why did his "I was trying to hint that I was a cop in order to get a reaction out of Yogsloth" satisfy me? Because it's such an unfathomably nonsensical idea? Because Bler and Yogsloth are the only ones who still think I'm town and I'm a massive sucker? Because I'm so phenomenally bad at mafia?

I'm going for Trent now, I'll remember to come back to Bler.

POSTPOSTSCRIPT -
Also, boatfrakkit, there's a bajillion other people playing as well. I've been very narrow-focused this game. Frakluncheon.

FRAK ME I'VE BEEN A MORON AND I'VE FRAKKED THIS WHOLE DAY


I MEANT to re-read the Day Three intro before posting, but I forgot and I just did it just now.

"Two in the front, six in the back"

I did the six in the back. Someone else did the two in the front. I just compared it to my night action: I snuck up, shot a bunch of times then ran away crying.

SCUM TARGETTED FLUBBUCKET???

If I had not been a frakking moron I'd have known that from the beginning of the day.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TOWN ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS MESS Sorry everybody!

unvote trentonlf

vote Lifthrasil

[ejects self from airlock]

alright, no sense dwelling on past mistakes. So we're all agreed to forgive Joe and move on? Good.

If you don't understand what's happened - I vig'd Flubbucket last night, missed the clue in the Day Three intro that he'd been doubly-killed, spent the whole day up till now reading all sorts of everything into everybody's words, claimed in as dramatic a way as I could muster, NOTICED the clue in the Day Three intro, and finally here we are, all frakked.



SO.

Where are we now?

Vitek - flipped Miller
Cristi - flipped deputy
Flubbucket - flipped Vanille
Joe - claimed Vig.
SPF - claimed Roleblocker
ZFR - claimed vanille
Bookwyrm - softclaimed something
Bler - no claim
Yogsloth - no claim
Ele - no claim
damn - no claim
lifthrasil - no claim
trent - no claim


I believed ZFR's claim because I thought he could only know 'Crew Regular' If that was what he was. That nobody had countered that convinced me he was telling the truth. I didn't mention it because of the possibility Mafia hadn't really been paying attention and were still uncertain about the 'Crew Regular' title. When flubbucket flipped I was doubly sure of ZFR's townliness. Then I read the first post where there's an example of a 'Crew Regular'. For Frak's sake Joe.


I think whoever-it-was' argument that ZFR would claim a power role if he was about to be lynched is pretty flawed: Isn't vanilla a fairly common and relatively safe falseclaim for scum?


IF I hadn't gone for flub last night I would have gone for Lifthrasil (I flipped a coin - heads flub, tails lifth). My favourites for scum are:

Lifthrasil, ZFR and

I dunno. Yogsloth.

I think if crew wins this it will be despite my horrendous choices, reading and playstyle. I don't remember frakking anything up as bad as this in my entire life. I might just pilot the Goglactica directly into the Cylon mothership and get it over with.

Players in order of Town - Mafia:

Lifthrasil
ZFR
Yogsloth
Bookwyrm
Ele
Damnation
SirPrimalform
Bler
Trent


Why is Trent my most town read now? Just because I was wrong that he was caught-in-the-act-of-trying-to-murder-anybody-but-flubbucket, doesn't mean he's not cylon.

frak frak frak.


I should go away and do something else for a while.


frak frak frak bod frakkin goat frak frak frak frak.

You mean Mafia - Town, right?

ha yeah.

thanks for picking up on that. That's the only mistake I've made this game.

I totally missed the part in the Day 3 opening post about two shots in the front and six shots in the back.

Unvote JoeSapphire

Vote Lifthrasil

This game is giving me ulcers

The "aaaahhhh I have an exam in a week!" votecount.

Lynch:

JoeSapphire - 3 (Lifthrasil, yogsloth, adaliaBookwyrms)
Lifthrasil - 2 (JoeSapphire, trentonlf)
elebutterfly - 1 (SirPrimalform)
trentonlf - 1 (bler144)

None - 4 (elebutterfly, JoeSapphire, Damnation, ZFR)

Brig:

trentonlf - 1 (SirPrimalform)
Damnation - 1 (adaliaBookwyrms)
adaliaBookwyrms - 1 (bler144)

None - 7 (yogsloth, elebutterfly, JoeSapphire, Damnation, Lifthrasil, trentonlf, ZFR)

With 10 active players, it takes 6 votes to reach a consensus.

Day 3 will end at 23:00 UTC tomorrow, which is 33.5 hours from now. If you require an extension, please let me know as soon as possible.

*sigh* OK...

I don't see scum!Bookwyrm doing all the wall of text just to lynch Joe (but it's Bookwyrm... who knows...).
I don't see scum!Joe doing the claim he did, pointing out the double kill and pretending to make a mistake.
That probably points to beler being town too, since he could easily hammer Joe and put mafia in a really good position (again; not sure here since hammering without hearing a response is scummy; then again with 3 mislynches mafia would be in an excellent position anyway).
cristi's flip seems to indicate town HSL. He could easily vote for either her or me on D1. I thought he might have been hesitant to vote me, because all his scum team was already on my wagon, but in that case he'd easily vote cristi.

That leaves...

SirPrimadonna - Not sure... I was leaning town, believing his claim.
trent - some weird posts, but I'm not sure.
ele - ...
Lift - Could be scum. His posts gave me the impression of fake scumhunting just like adalia's did.
Damnation - by process of elimination good possibility of scum too. His reaction to my accusation at the beginning of D2 (the friendly "yes you're right! Accusing me is good!" which fits a bit into my friendly-newbies-scum category).

Could the last 3 be the scum team?

Damnation has my strongest suspicion now, but I'm willing to switch to Lift too.

Vote Damnation

Fuck. You almost had me there Joe. While reading your earlier posts from today you actually had me believing I'd successfully blocked the NK.

This is either a hilarious coincidental or a really well planned falseclaim by a cylon who performed the night kill and is worried about... being tracked?

unvote elebutterfly
vote JoeSapphire

whut??

Setting up the details to support the "I picked the same target as the cylons!" narrative. Why, do you think I'm giving you too much credit?

1) That's my working assumption.

2) Because I assumed a) he's smart enough to avoid that sort of obvious blunder esp. with the gamestate, b) if he were maf. 50/50 chance of his D1 voting coming up in nightchat, c) maybe he has a get-out-of-jail-free card and would rather risk lynch than NK

And unlike yogsloth I feel like I actually understand the point of at least some of Joe's ramblings and find value in them, and tended to tonally read them as pure. But I am not particularly excited to actually eat clothes nor water down my pledge to eat clothes too thinly, so I'll hold off there.

You're...the doctor?

Ooooh, that makes more sense.




I don't feel particularly frakked, myself, but yes, the noose is tightening. I believe both your claim and SPF's. Still tend to have HSloth as town, as dangerous as that assumption is.

I think we need to discuss whatever the hell Bookwyrm is doing, and Trent's decision to share his lack of PM (after being reprimanded by you yesterday not to dig for flub's) to me are the oddities on the table that now we can talk about.

So I would amend your table above slightly - if town!SPF, town!trent has effectively claimed VT. But yes, if we pursue lynch Lift, of the various options, then if he's not cop, the hunting pool for maf to find the real cop is very narrow unless scum decide town!wyrm is B.S.ing.




Uhh...no really, go back and read the D3 flavour post. Take a deep breath.