I'll probably hate myself if you're lying. But

unvote Joe

if you read the reveal again can you tell?

hum. I think this is fine? I feel like I'm missing something but I'll also falling asleep. Do we have a deadline dayyet?

Catte's a gentleman and a scholar. Literally.


Sounds like a plan! Let's get crackin'. Who da scums? Seriously, what are your thoughts at this moment? Right now this is likely about as much as "more happening" you're gonna get so you should be forming, if not formed already, some sort of idea where you'd want to look at for the mafia.


I have a bit of a hard time following this post. You start by considering different angle about RW and I agree cases could be made for either side but then when you list your suspicions you have RW sharing the top Town spot with HSL. Based on what you wrote next about ZFR shouldn't their spot be at least swapped and maybe RW being a tiny bit lower even?

OK, I see some more explanations on that topic in #494 but then what was the point in "wondering" which RW it is?


:O

LOL

Perhaps this is just post-championship PTSD Joe.

Well I don't like your face! Gut feeling still says Joe is off, but it's unsubstantiated as of now.

Well, one out of three ain't bad.

@Dedo. In my first post I posed a question "Is RWarehall town or mafia, having him and Buck(scum) cross-voted each other?". Next post I share a few of my observations and while I may not have shared them all, the conclusion I came up with (at least for toDay), is that RWarehall looks town. I checked ZFR less than that, and can only say he leans town. This is my assessment, which compared to yours or anybody elses, will be less than complete, given the fact I joined the game since D2.

More importantly though, Dedoporno, why do you put emphasis on which of the two players, who both look rather town, is townier? How does swapping them places change anything and help catch scum?

D'oh! You're right, there's detective_razza as well. I dunno why last night in my mind there was some reason to excuse him. Cephy I guess I was giving a pass due to real life issues.

And I think I have been scum in some games (at least one game?), but it was years ago and I don't really remember.

Also, since we seem to be talking about roles right now, I'm curious why Frost was NK, when he was such an obvious NK. Or was that only my perspective? Did other people have other suspicions?

Because thou shall love the Tentacle!

Sorry, could not resist xD

assuming “Mafia Goon” means buck was scum, then yes?

hm, if i had to go through:

joe - a lil suspicious rn, slight lean but i’m just keeping an eye on him
dedo - i don’t have any suspicion on dedo rn, i’d say town
catte - i feel like i haven’t seen/ heard catte very often (i’m sure many could say the same about me though), so i’d say could be town, could be scum?
HSL - i think HSL is town.
ZFR - i think ZFR is town too, although could potentially be looked into for the death of Frost- since they were arguing D1- but i think ZFR is town.
dessimu- hmmmmmm, i think could be scum- a slight lean, but that’s just a gut feeling.
RWare - i think RWare has a scum lean.
Ambition - i think Ambition could be town? I don’t think I have a reason to believe they aren’t rn.

i think that’s everyone?

i forgot babark ahh

babark - i’d say town, i’d say PERHAPS scum lean? but that’s based off his ‘lurking’ in D1, he seems to be getting more active, so i’d say town for now.

if i had a list i’d say: joe, dessimu (based off the hunting done by Cephy of Frost in D1 and now Frost is dead :’o), RWare, catte and babark
^^ that’s my guess and general vibe as of rn.

You listed 2 players simply as "Town". I read that as "Town-core, I'm not ever voting for these from now on". The others are "leaning Town" which I read as "I like these players more than others for the time being". There is a subtle but important difference considering you're putting your reads and intentions on record. The way #491 read to me suggested a still existing uncertainty about RW yet you added him to your Town-core. ZFR I singled out mostly because I also have a strong Town read on (and quite a lot others) while I still have some suspicions about RW and yourself at the back of my head and I'm making a note of the potential link. I don't know if I explained myself as well as I wanted to.


What would your guess be?


Thanks. Would you like to vote one of them right now?

@Dedo. I see. In this case, I can explain myself like this:
• I have yet no certainty of anyone else alive being Town
• based on changing circumstances, in the future I am willing to vote everyone
• when I say someone is Town or leaning Town, I mean that at this point I don't have reasons to distrust them and I am willing to believe what they say, to a certain point. Or, in other words, I believe they have no ill will
• should I find another townie, I will also provide evidence
• and basically I am looking for scum in the pool of "all players, minus Town-leaners"

Then why make the separation of more Town and less Town at all?