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Lifthrasil: Actually I knew that you were vanilla. I read you N2. All my suspecting you as either PR or scum was just for show.

And my killing you was just to do you a favour, since you wanted it. Also because we just needed to kill anyone and I didn't want to risk targeting someone like a Commuter or something.
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gogtrial34987: *grumble, grumble* :)
How deliberate was that?
When I saw you are going for wrong people and they are cases I can get behind, I felt like it is good spot to stay there, get on your good side and only support you from backline. Let you take all iniciative, possibly all blame for mislynch (I was thinking about "bussing" you on D3) while avoiding all attention myself.
While, I had to dissuade you from Micro a bit, that was unfortunate, but perhaps it gave people feeling like I am not just agreeing with everything.

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gogtrial34987: I was counting on this, and Lift presented clear argumentation about you doing so as well, but the beauty of it is that while your house assignments would be random, scum's house claims wouldn't be, and they'd have to fight really hard in order to overcome the inclination
Do you think it would be of any use for town?
We would end up with some roughly even distribution no matter what and if we ended up with 3-3-3-3 what would that tell you and how it would differ from something like 4-3-3-2.

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nmillar: Yeah, I was desperate to try and find anything that would be recognisable by anyone else. I was even looking for patterns in names at one point, hence noticing that Vitek's was different.
I hate this.
If I got lynched it would only validate you in your reads about such things while it would be absolutely wrong reason for lynch.
In my original plan, Town was supposed to have a 1-shot Vigilante. When the number of players was reduced to 11, I removed the Vigilante since his presence could end the game by end of D2 (i.e. Town is allowed just 1 mislynch if Vig kills Town).

When blotunga joined and the number of players was 12 again, I wanted to reinstate the Vig, Bookwyrm adviced me against it, and I agreed. The previous games have shown that too many Town PRs can shift the balance in their favour not just by the PR's abilities but by the fact that the PRs can easily make their owners confirmed Townies. So in the end you had the setup you saw. I was kind of pleased with it; given the amount of heavy PR games recently it was nice to see something different. Of course I didn't expect the PRs to dies so quickly (and Mafia not to use their Strongman. Or have to use it. Though Lift did want to use it N3 had the game continued).

And I think this is all I wanted to say.


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nmillar: Yeah, I was desperate to try and find anything that would be recognisable by anyone else. I was even looking for patterns in names at one point, hence noticing that Vitek's was different.
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Vitek: I hate this.
If I got lynched it would only validate you in your reads about such things while it would be absolutely wrong reason for lynch.
Yeah, that was random. After getting all names I made some tiny changes, like giving a nickname ("Lili") to one and a middle name to another. Then those names were assigned randomly (as I said with the exception of Manuel Alce and a character or two for whom I wanted a specific gender).

People are free to look for meaning anywhere.As I said, it warmed my heart when the majority said Houses are probably random.

Hmmmm.. Maybe one day I will put some hidden meaning somewhere.
Post edited October 04, 2020 by ZFR
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nmillar: Four Gryffindor? There's a liar amongst you. Two PRs as well, one of which has been verified.

Also, with only dedo remaining, I'm the only one to claim Slytherin. As we know Slytherin aren't the bad guys, then surely that proves my claim is genuine? Unless of course, you're going with the hypothesis that there are no Slytherin in the game, in which case it's me and dedo along with one of the Gryffindor claims.
Just wanted to ping you to say: From skimming(didn't read it all yet) I saw you were town.

I'm sorry for dropping the ball....had I been online I likely would've changed votes or unvoted to keep you alive a bit longer and give us a chance (stupid need for sleep o.0).

Feel free to come kick my butt anytime...I deserve it after playing so poorly(I mean helping to lynch town on one "day" and almost doing so the next, and helping scum win by not trusting you and tunneling a bit less).
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GymHenson
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ZFR: Lifthrasil is Samantha Smith, Salem Institute Of Witchology, Mafia.
Microfish_1 is Thomas Gibson, Salem Institute Of Witchology, Mafia.
Vitek is Arthur Casey Hanson, Salem Institute Of Witchology, Mafia.
Looks like I was right on Vitek, and Lift(shoud've not let em off so easily after that quickhammer on D1)...didn't suspect Micro as much until the end, though, so:

well done Micro for flying (har har) under my radar for most of the game. :)

(I started to suspect you for that vote on me earlier, and also when reading the posts I missed your claim of role and your "night actions" seemed amiss....had I been on then I likely would've pointed it out and added you to my suspects list)

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Also to everyone: Seems I was right to suspect the quickhammers on the two "days".....dangnabbit town, maybe next time listen a bit more to my "quirky" and "zany" ideas? o.0 ;)

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dedoporno: I hope at least GH is happy people went for his read after all.
Sorry for that....I stupidly picked the wrong choice from my list to focus on the most.
(should've focused on the hammer-ers on my list a bit more)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GymHenson
Moved one reply here so all replies to Micro are in one post:

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Microfish_1: i'm glad your having such a good time. Is the new chair a Birthday gift, or did you break your old chair this game? :O
Also, you have played noticeably better this game than some. Though your Cop game was altogether brilliant, too.
It was just an indicator that I used (mainly for pizzazz and style and fluff) to indicate if I felt someone's claim was so "funny"(i.e. hard for me to believe) that it "made me fall off my chair laughing".

Also thanks for the compliment....though it seems it was for naught as the game is over.
(Didn't read all pages yet, though, but saw the game is over...will check to see who was scum and such in a bit as I read through the pages I missed since last posting)

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Microfish_1: @GH You were playing much better than sometimes. It wasn't that i was ignoring you but had to actively work as hard as I could to discredit your views much of the game.
The NK (and the reason that you weren't it was a case of (at least in my case) "birthday gift + I didn't want people to study your reads to see who you suspected + I had been scared of Gogtrial since mid-D1."
That was nice/smart of you, so thanks for the gift and well played.

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Microfish_1: Also, we are praising God because we learned Friday (October 2nd) that my dad does not have cancer, so that is a huge relief to me/my family. Thank you all for unknowingly being a huge and very welcome distraction from that concern and fear over the last month.
This is welcome news to hear. :)

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gogtrial34987: So, since I got 2/6 right, which is considerably above the proper average of 3/11 that statistics have laid down for our guidance, I am claiming moral victory here.
Nice, buuuut: I had all of the scum but 1 in my list. :D

(Btw had fun playing with you and everyone else as well)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GymHenson
I know I am awful with my vote, especially after D1. I want to be sure it is going to the right person and this often takes long. Too long.
No matter if I am town or mafia.
I would like to say I will try to get better but I think it is long past to do that.
I would like to direct you to old game I was browsing recently. I remember it fondly, maybe because I played key part in it.
Joe's Confusing Bait.
There, I was town cop and I remember I got scolded by flub there for not voting. I looked it up and I voted near the end of D1, on April 10th. My next vote was near the end of D3 on the May 13th. So I managed there to go full month without voting once. :-)

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GymHenson: Also to everyone: it seems I was right to suspect the quickhammers on the two "days".....dammit town, next time maybe LISTEN to my "quirky" and "zany" ideas a bit more? o.0 :\
While you were right about me being mafia (props for that) you were basing it on wrong reasons. I didn't hammer because I was mafia, I did it while I was mafia. It had nothing to do with my alignment, just as catte told you.
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phaolo: Ah.. well, they seem variations of Mafia.
I think I'm not very much into these social deduction games in general. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just be like me and play for the fluff posting and the luxurious end of game banquets :D

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Speaking of which..@Op: So where's our endgame spread??? o.0
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Vitek: Joe's Confusing Bait.
There, I was town cop and I remember I got scolded by flub there for not voting. I looked it up and I voted near the end of D1, on April 10th. My next vote was near the end of D3 on the May 13th. So I managed there to go full month without voting once. :-)
Why does it say you were Mafoa Cop?
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GymHenson: Also to everyone: it seems I was right to suspect the quickhammers on the two "days".....dammit town, next time maybe LISTEN to my "quirky" and "zany" ideas a bit more? o.0 :\
Oh boi...
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ZFR: Why does it say you were Mafoa Cop?
Because Joe is cruel and uninformed majority were called Mafia and informed minority were called Town.

I almost got lynched D1 because I called us town and bad guys mafia.

And as true important self-centered PR I haven't claimed even when I was at L-1 and luckily managed to get away with it.
Post edited October 04, 2020 by Vitek
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Lifthrasil: @dedo: congrats for figuring me out!
*Cough*

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Vitek: I know I am awful with my vote, especially after D1. I want to be sure it is going to the right person and this often takes long. Too long.
You too? That's why I hesitated a lot during earlier games(after messing up when quickly voting in even earlier games that that).

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Vitek: While you were right about me being mafia (props for that) you were basing it on wrong reasons. I didn't hammer because I was mafia, I did it while I was mafia. It had nothing to do with my alignment, just as catte told you.
Thanks for the props....still: to me, the reasons matter less than if I get the suspicions right or not & if I can convince others to vote for or suspect them as well. :)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GymHenson
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dedoporno: Oh boi...
I hope you don't think i'm too upset?

I'm not....I am just a tiny bit "sad" that we lost...possibly due to things like that, and also my own poor play like: helping remove one town and almost doing so for another, tunneling on Nmillar, and focusing not enough on the two hammers.

(Also changed the one smiley and the wording as it came off as more accusatory and negative than I intended it to)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GymHenson
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GymHenson: I hope you don't think i'm too upset?

I'm not....
Phew!
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GymHenson: Thanks for the props....still: to me, the reasons matter less than if I get the suspicions right or not & if I can convince others to vote for or suspect them as well. :)
It should matter to you. If you accuse correct person but for wrong reasons, you will never get people to support your thing, you won't get your lynch only get frustrated at people for not listening to you.