For me, I'm not voting RWaerhall today. I believe his claim, I don't think the way the day's played out that he's scum trying to pull a fast one over out eyes.

I would be very hard pressed to vote RedFireGaming. His play this game has a town feel to it, and even though the prankster can be any alignment I don't see him being scum.

blotunga, I have him as leaning slightly town. I'm taking RedFireGaming at his word so I know blotunga could not have committed a kill last night. This gives him him slight town cred.

I think the scum team is between nmillar, SPF, and GameRager.

nmillar still seems to be trying to stay in the background. He made a few posts early on and at the end of day yesterday and has not been on at all today. Makes me thing he is trying to avoid attention.

SPF, his interactions with RWarehall feel forced and off. To me it seems like he is trying to find something to paint RWarehall as scum but can't make anything stick.

GameRager, Keeps wanting people to post more so he can have more information to gauge them on, but doesn't actually post any analysis.Makes it look like he is trying to scum hunt but is really not doing anything. He also doesn't want to vote, as if he is afraid to be tied to a wagon and someone flip Town.

Majority vote is 4 and we probably have 2 scum in the game, if there's more than 2 then this was a broken setup and I don't see Lift doing that. Of the three I suspect I plan on placing my vote on SPF, but I want to hear more from everyone else, especially nmillar and GameRager, before I put him at L-1.

Holy shit. I would have never picked up on those.

Anyway, I don't know much about setups, from 10 we had 1 neutral so that means we have most likely 2 scum and 5 town left alive. btw, what would the win condition be for a neutral (just out of curiosity and off topic).

I don't think Red is devious enough to jail a town and then claim it to buddy up, but his scumbuddy might. Though if I'd get lynched he'd get a lot of town cred I suppose.

I do think RWarehall's claim, it's likely he could do such a crazy thing. Though if I ware to shoot someone I would've shot nmillar for lurking.

SPF feels odd, reminds me of scene, riding on a comment that I made that he was voting trent because he was third on a wagon, which was my interpretation indeed because he reasoned it a bit differently. Anyway, I don't think that this would be in either case a scumtell in my case. And trust me, I won't make the same dumb mistake I did in the Captain Sapphire game, which was actually my first game so I didn't knew exactly what to make out of the flavor.

Anyway I'm going to wait a bit before I make a judgement. Also I want to go back and look at the wagons. Though we had 3 town wagons (I hope I remember right: carr, me and pooka in the end) and likely we just were chasing ourselves... I wish pooka wouldn't have hammered himself. Also it was a slight blunder for him to switch wagons as it made me suspicious. Anyway, what's done is done.

It was even a little more cryptic than that in parts...
Post 152 was a little more intricate than that, so much so, I have a hard time following it myself, but it was supposedly a longer message starting with lonely and Lone for one; S from Shill meaning shot somehow, the black color of the horse meant night action? With the VIG in reverse that followed.

Post 32 is the one that really bothered me. Forget the O and S part, but the "might not pay close enough attention to keep your extra money on your person" was too on the nose to ignore. The weird capitalization just drew too much attention to it in my opinion that I thought I might be compromised.

I can see how thinking you might already be a target might make you use your shot on the first night. Outside of that it seems insane, but if you're expecting to get nightkilled straight away...

Where the hell's that nmillar?

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The new Session brings new suspicions, new accusations and a surprising confession. There is some talking and another 'Change my mind' session, but one person remains silent so far.
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Vote Count

SirPrimalform 2 - RWarehall (251), RedFire (256)

not voting: everyone else
not appeared yet: nmillar
SirP leads at L-2

Deadline will be late Friday or early Saturday (European time).
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I was a wagon too, right?

I thought there was more interaction between SPF and nmillar, which was the reason I had put nmillar on the less likely to be scum list earlier (256), but there's only SPF saying "lurky lurky nmillar". If SPF isn't scum though, I doubt nmillar is.

As for why scum left me alive, I can think of two possibilities.
1) They thought I was lynchable D2
2) They don't know whether I can self-target

1) Highly probable
2) Keep that to yourself
3) They could also have a role blocker

Am I missing something? RWarehall is claiming he took Trent's gun, but Trent is somehow still here?

You are missing something. RW claims to have taken Carr's gun, which is supported by the fact Carr isn't here and no one has counterclaimed. He did state in a slightly confusing way, you're not the only person who thought it looked like he said he got trent (I did too for a moment).

Okay, that clears that up.

Vote Gamerager[, for still refusing to commit to a single vote.

Still not convinced by RedFireGaming, as nothing claimed confirms him as town, and we have two claimed power roles in play, which already seems a bit overkill if they both have the same alignment.

Tbh I suck at the analysis part, and am hoping scum will drop some big tell by accident. As such, and since most posts are very wordy and hard to pick apart(for me), it's hard to do so.

BTW besides me which is your biggest scum choice of nmillar and SPF, and why?

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Tbh i don't know who to vote for(I also suck a bit at this game in general and I am afraid i'll hit town like I did last game).....once more posts come in AND trent replies back to the above i'll choose who(if any) to vote for.

On my phone so the best I can do is post the link. I’ve already answered your question:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_61_pacifists_at_the_nra/post271

I thought it was pretty insane that people were acting as if they were confirmed. Suggesting otherwise has earned me a couple of votes. I get the feeling that at least one of the people on my wagon is not NRA and is angered by my calling their "confirmed" status into question.
If RW is telling the truth, prankster actually seems plausible as a pacifist role as the mafia have someone to protect themselves against.

Thanks....at this point either NMillar or SPF would be as good a vote choice as any.

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What say you SPF? NMillar? What do you both have to say to convince me to not vote you two?
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If after hearing from the above I still cannot decide i'll leave it to random.org if no one else can add anything to sway me one way or the other.

I'm curious why you're taking trent's lead, as if me and nmillar are the only options.

Personally I think one of Redfire or blotunga is scum. Both seems unlikely as that would mean the night action in question probably didn't happen and I can't see a huge motivation for claiming it.