I believe you. Claming Vig as a SK would be a guaranteed loss, since scum would go after you next.
And if RWarehall is Town, that means Town's chances of winning are much higher. With no SK, there's only one N2 kill, and scum has to choose between the Jailer and the confirmed Town.
Unvote RWarehall
I also mentioned earlier that after posts at the end of the day, I didn't think nmillar was a pacifist. I don't think Blotunga is scum, which leaves GR, SPF, and Trent.
Aim at SPF

True, but breadcrumbing also can provide ways to prove one's town status should they have to claim for some reason....to me it seems a double edged sword.

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So far I don't see such claims or actions as suspicious.....to me RWareHall's claim seems to be somewhat valid/

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You make good points, but this stinks of OMGUS.

1) If I was scum and agent was my partner I would not try to shift attention elsewhere, I would have ran him over with the bus, stopped, backed up over him, stopped, and then ran him over one more time. I have no issues busing a partner if I'm scum, at any time. The only reason I had voted agent to begin with was to gauge reactions to the vote from him and everyone else, he was more of a neutral read to me at that point more than anything. The reason I moved over to Pooka was because I didn't like his vote on GameRager. he started a new wagon on the last day that had little chance of succeeding from someone who was a viable lynch candidate at that time and that felt off to me to do that.

2) I think they targeted ZFR as they felt he had a role or they felt he gave away the least amount of info. After reading over ZFR's posts the only thing I could find that might have hinted at a role was his post 96 to JoeSapphire, and that one was not really a breadcrumb IMO. So I lean toward they felt he gave away the least amount of info or even possibly can sow enough doubt and confusion on someone else to help push a mislynch through.


As for your claim, I see three possible scenarios.
1) You are scum banking on there not being a vigilante in the game as you know it doesn't line up with what roles you and your partner(s) have.
2) You are one of the worst SK's to play the game
3) You are telling the truth.

#2, I don't think this is the case at all. You are very devious and smart player and would know that if you outed yourself as killing someone last night and didn't end up dead today or two more kills showed up tomorrow that you would be instantly lynched at the start of D3. A serial killer has to try to be somewhat hidden, and you coming out like you did makes zero sense.

#1, This is possible. You know how balancing works in mafia games and would be able to tell with a Neutral survivor in play and what roles the scum team had if a vigilante would make sense to be in the game. Would be a way to gain town cred. The risk on this is high though, and I don't think it's something you would do unless you felt Micro was going to be the lynch today. After going over his posts I think he would have been under pressure today, but not a guarantee lynch. So I don't think this is the case either. If you are brazen scum I'll tip my hat to you after the game, it would be a very bold play to pull off.

#3, Going over the posts you mentioned that Micro left you and thinking the scenarios through this makes the most sense to me.

You have voted SPF, who do you think is his partner and why? Why do you think sum killed ZFR last night instead of RedFireGaming?

Your OMGUS vote suggests you were feeling some heat at least. As I said, you hadn't mentioned breadcrumbs at the time I wrote the post where I voted for you. Your immediate vote for me comes across as touchy, although how much of this is guilt and how much is personality I cannot say. I don't think I've played mafia with you before.

Hmm, I'll bear that in mind. It's not like it would be crazy for a SK to breadcrumb that they're a vig, we're not likely to have both.

He may be banking on attracting protection from you or the possible one-shot (when successful) doc.

Given that we found out I was wrong about Agent, scum didn't need to lift a finger to get any sort of lynch. All wagons lead to Town/Neutral or Town-leaning) with no intervention. The natural tendency for scum would then be not to make too many waves. Thus, I'd lean to the two players who stuck their heads out the least. SPF and nmillar.

Everyone else came out with strong opinions about someone and could have become a decent suspect for their contributions to a mislynch if the subject of their opinions turned out to be Town.

My main lynch candidate was blotunga, but there wasn't enough support.

Why did you want to lynch blotunga again? Refresh my memory.

It's a little meta. Blotunga jumped to a faulty conclusion in a way that reminded me strongly of the last time I was in a game where he was mafia. In that game there was a kill-less night and blotunga 'imagined' the (failed) kill target being mentioned in the flavour when he wasn't. Amazingly we let it go and he did turn out to be mafia (winning in fact). You were in that game I think actually, also on the mafia team?
Anyway, in this game he made an assumption about why I voted for trent while simultaneously missing the actual reason I'd given. Even after I prompted him to take another look he failed to realise his mistake. It was a gut feeling, but he just felt off.

The assumption he made was that I was voting for trent because trent was third on a wagon (that being supposedly a scum tell). It made me wonder if blotunga jumped to that conclusion because he was consciouly avoiding or being worried about being third on a wagon.

Interesting....so who do you feel strongly about now?

(As for the prior game...which one was it? I forget a ton of stuff and I don't have it bookmarked or saved)

Honestly I am less certain about Redfire than I was yesterday. Although his power is confirmed, as trent pointed out it isn't strictly an NRA aligned role. Blotunga isn't cleared either as it's possible for him to be a pacifist without being the one performing the kill.
Although I don't consider RW cleared, Micro's breadcrumbs help. I do find his OMGUS somewhat eyebrow-worthy, although this could be personality rather than a guilty conscience. Anyone else who's played with him got any input there?

(I don't remember the number but it was Captain Sapphire the Movie.)

I am more or less inclined to trust Red a bit more right now, but the OMGUS near back to back votes did seem a bit odd.

As for that older game: I cannot even remember much of what games i've played(and some other stuff as I have bad memory irl.....if I don't memorize stuff or see it over and over it doesn't get "saved" to my permanent memory as easily). I will look into it for interest's sake later, though.

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SPF, I find the fact you seem to shade me and then try to credit Trent with the revelation that Red's role can be any alignment a bit disturbing. Are you really reading my posts to assess my guilt or innocence; or just going through the motions and pretending to? You seem to have better recall of older games than this one.

Ah, I misremembered that because I ended up replying to trent's reply to you (go and have a look). The thing that got associated with that information in my memory was Trent's avatar. That's a town point for you then rather than trent. I don't consider you cleared but maybe leaning mildly town.
As for recalling old games, well that particular one was a bit of a sore loss for me as town so it's stuck with me. If we'd lynched blotunga the whole thing would have played out differently.

Damn, my italics for the last bit of my last post messed up. Note to self: Fix that when the game is over.

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Just a bit of advance notice that I will be going offline in about 5-7 min. I will be back in around 11-12 hours or so...see y'all then and please try to post more so I can have something to analyze when I get back. Thanks again all and have fun.
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